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Posted by rjlockhart98 on August 13, 2005, at 21:26:03
I have had nightmares of going to an asylum.
My anxiety is bad, i cant overload i go crazy. If i ever did go, would this be on my record for being "crazy" becuase i want to have a nice Job when i grow up. Im 18, im an adult my mom control my medication like nuclear weapons. My mom controls everything, it makes me feel ditressed that im locked up with this lunitic, she has rages i feel i am locked up.
What is it like in an aslyum?
Posted by john berk on August 13, 2005, at 21:51:14
In reply to Has anyone ever been commited?, posted by rjlockhart98 on August 13, 2005, at 21:26:03
Hi!! i was never commited, but i did voluntarily enter "friends hospital" here in philadelphia,
i was there 3 weeks for major depression, and i was treated so well!! i was scared to go, big time, but my doctor suggested it, and it worked out great!! i have no idea's about other hospitals, but this one was "excellent". i wish you so much luck, i think it would be very hard to be commited these days, unless you suicidal/homicidal!!you sound vey rational everytime you post, i don't think you have to worry. i hope you begin to feel better, at 18, you have a great life ahead !! peace...john
Posted by john berk on August 13, 2005, at 22:07:06
In reply to Has anyone ever been commited?, posted by rjlockhart98 on August 13, 2005, at 21:26:03
hey matt, one more thing, i just checked your pics out, you are like the most normal looking dude in north america, i couldn't even tell you were on meds!! those girls you were with were really cute, lol! please try to relax, i think you are on the right track, you won't be commited, just keep working hard at getting well!! good luck...john
Posted by Ilene on August 13, 2005, at 22:15:53
In reply to Has anyone ever been commited?, posted by rjlockhart98 on August 13, 2005, at 21:26:03
> I have had nightmares of going to an asylum.
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> My anxiety is bad, i cant overload i go crazy. If i ever did go, would this be on my record for being "crazy" becuase i want to have a nice Job when i grow up. Im 18, im an adult my mom control my medication like nuclear weapons. My mom controls everything, it makes me feel ditressed that im locked up with this lunitic, she has rages i feel i am locked up.
>
> What is it like in an aslyum?You can only be hospitalized against your will if you are a danger to yourself or others, or if you are judged unable to take care of yourself. I believe that 72 hours is the longest you can be held. After that you get to go before a judge. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong.)
Your medical records are private, too.
I've been hospitalized twice. The second time was for 7 weeks. I don't remember too much about it, except it was pretty stress-free.
I.
Posted by Deneb on August 13, 2005, at 23:26:01
In reply to Has anyone ever been commited?, posted by rjlockhart98 on August 13, 2005, at 21:26:03
I don't know what it means to be commited, but I've been locked up once for 72 hours 'cause I ODd on something.
It was extremely BORING in there and frustrating because people kept ignoring my pleads to be let out or to have a lawyer and stuff. I felt like stabbing stuff, but I had to control my rage because I was afraid of being kept longer in there...it was hard, but they let me out even though I threw a small tantrum and threw M&Ms and sat in the "forbidden" zone. It was scary in there and I couldn't sleep.
Deneb
Posted by spriggy on August 14, 2005, at 0:24:40
In reply to Re: Has anyone ever been commited? » rjlockhart98, posted by Deneb on August 13, 2005, at 23:26:01
I took myself (with my dh) to the hospital when I wigged out on Lexapro. I was apparently having akathasia (but didn't know it). Anyway, I was in the psych unit for 3 days- it wasn't at all like you imagine.
MOst of the people in there were fairly typical; just suffering from depression or bipolar (a few were schizophrenic) but I made friends with everyone there.
I learned a lot seeing what some people have to cope with every single day. It definitely opened my eyes and gave me a compassion for other's like I had never known before.
Anyway, the food was bad but other than that, everything was good (minus my wigging out most of the time). They kept me medicated but were very kind to me. I slept most of the time.
Once they figuerd out I was just reacting poorly to meds, they gave me medication and sent me home.
I didn't see padded walls or anything. Not nearly as scarey as they make it out to be in movies and such.
Posted by Deneb on August 14, 2005, at 0:45:28
In reply to Re: Has anyone ever been commited?, posted by spriggy on August 14, 2005, at 0:24:40
> Anyway, the food was bad but other than that, everything was good (minus my wigging out most of the time).
What the heck? How come everyone had such nice experiences? What's wrong with me? How come all I wanted to do was throw temper tantrums that are not allowed? It was very hard for me. They expected me to be nice and patient and to just cope until they let me out. I could barely cope...it was sooo frustrating. I was smart enough to know that I couldn't yell and scream to be let out...I had to really control myself and ask *nicely* to be let out again and again and again. I knew I didn't belong there. I wasn't crazy, I just made the mistake of telling someone I ODd. I wish they would have let me out after making sure I wasn't going to die. I wanted to escape so badly...I stayed by the nurses' station to check things out...how they opened the doors, shift patterns etc. If they had decided to keep me longer, I would definitely have escaped.
Deneb
Posted by med_empowered on August 14, 2005, at 1:14:25
In reply to Re: Has anyone ever been commited?, posted by Deneb on August 14, 2005, at 0:45:28
I was committed...long story. Anyway, it was a mixed bag. The hospital was a private, comfortable, "acute care"--read: 30days stay max--center. I could make calls when I wanted to, refuse meds, etc. But...it wasn't that great. My shrink was absolutely callous and downright mean, and we never got along...the lead therapist, who handled group stuff, would say mean things like "look people, you're in ward 5 (the "severe case" ward")..you obviously NEED to listen to what I'm saying, OK?" I only got to see a therapist one-on-one one time, and it went OK, I suppose...she was friendly, I was friendly, things went nicely. But I was soooo bored and sooo frustrated; I got so bored and apathetic that I slept most of the time, and then they interpreted this as a sign of "worsening depression" (I was bored as hell-that was the REAL problem). I felt so out-of-control and the worst part was...I felt as if they expected me to *smile* and *thank them* for being so kind as to lock me up and control everything that went on around me. I couldn't do it. I got along very well with the lower-level staff people--the "babysitters," the people who did the day-to-day patient stuff...I also got along really well with the vast majority of the patients . But...it really is what sociologists call a "total institution," even though the days of long-term stays and forcible drugging are (largely) over. The peson you were--the person you ARE, really--means nothing to the people who run these places; you are a patient, and you are really nothing more than a constellation of symptoms connected only by whatever "diagnosis" they deem fit to give you. THEY define who you are without even acknowledging that you are, in fact, a PERSON. And they really do prefer you to be compliant and obedient...or outrageously "crazy". Either of those extremes will do. But nuance, subtelty, depth...those who run asylums really can't handle *that*...I guess it makes you too human, and it seems like you're demanding to be seen as something other than a "patient" or a "bipolar (schizophrenic, OCD, whatever" with whatever symptoms. The funniest moment, I think, was when we had "Movie night" at my mental hospital; they asked what everybody wanted to see, and I piped up and said I wanted to see "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest". The other patients thought it was funny as hell, but those in charge were *not* amused.
Posted by Mr.Scott on August 14, 2005, at 1:14:58
In reply to Has anyone ever been commited?, posted by rjlockhart98 on August 13, 2005, at 21:26:03
Committed?
Once I was 'four party petitioned' into drug rehab by my mom, the ER doc, the police, and my girlfriend at the time. Believe it or not it was one of the best experiences of my life even though I didn't get truly sober for another 5 years. I learned a lot. I've admitted myself to hospitals twice because I'd had enough. Once at age 17, and again 5 years later. I was fortunate to find great comfort there and some relief too.
I think its pretty hard to commit someone to an asylum these days. It looks like you have the resources and enough sanity to avoid that anyways. On the other hand...Don't be shy about admitting yourself if ever needed (to a private hospital). Its like a vacation, and everybody is focused on helping you.
Scott
Posted by DoYouKnowHim? on August 14, 2005, at 1:15:07
In reply to Has anyone ever been commited?, posted by rjlockhart98 on August 13, 2005, at 21:26:03
When you think about or post about being committed to a hospital, then you give power to that negative thought in your mind. It will just grow and grow.
You need to tranform your mind and think about positive things. You seem like a rational person. Think about all the positives, even it is simple stuff, waking up this morning or having something to eat.
Posted by DoYouKnowHim? on August 14, 2005, at 1:15:27
In reply to Has anyone ever been commited?, posted by rjlockhart98 on August 13, 2005, at 21:26:03
When you think about or post about being committed to a hospital, then you give power to that negative thought in your mind. It will just grow and grow.
You need to tranform your mind and think about positive things. You seem like a rational person. Think about all the positives, even it is simple stuff, waking up this morning or having something to eat.
Posted by linkadge on August 14, 2005, at 4:46:44
In reply to Re: Change your thinking » rjlockhart98, posted by DoYouKnowHim? on August 14, 2005, at 1:15:27
I went to the hosptial vaulentarily twice. Once for 3 weeks, and once for 2 weeks. It did help get things straigtened out. They took care of me.
If things get bad don't hesitate. They will treat directly without your mothers involvement.
Good Luck
Linkadge
Posted by ed_uk on August 14, 2005, at 10:01:15
In reply to Re: Has anyone ever been commited?, posted by med_empowered on August 14, 2005, at 1:14:25
Hi Med,
I've never been committed but I have been in hospital. It wasn't scary at all but it WAS soooo boring.
>"One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest"
LOL, I would have laughed too! ;-)
Kind regards
~Ed
Posted by Ilene on August 14, 2005, at 12:17:38
In reply to Re: Has anyone ever been commited?, posted by med_empowered on August 14, 2005, at 1:14:25
We got to watch "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" but staff drew the line at "Taxi Driver".
I.
Posted by Phillipa on August 14, 2005, at 12:30:11
In reply to Re: Has anyone ever been commited? » med_empowered, posted by Ilene on August 14, 2005, at 12:17:38
I haven't been committed but been on psych ward. In the beginning when I had hope meds would work it wasn't so bad. But the last time I was in was in January and they put me on the geriatric wing. How do you think this makes you feel if your in your 50's? So I mostly stayed in my room. Won't go back no matter what. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by kerria on August 14, 2005, at 22:00:53
In reply to Has anyone ever been commited?, posted by rjlockhart98 on August 13, 2005, at 21:26:03
Hi rjlockhart,
i'm sorry that you had the bad dream about an asylum- you don't need to worry about it. Unless you have a dreaded dx like i do (DID) it's really hard to become committed to a hospital. Committment is a legal thing- two drs need to agree that someone has a mental disorder AND is a danger to him or herself or to someone else.
Yes- i've been committed three times. All for being a danger to myself. Once after an OD when a part was really depressed. Then once it wasn't fair because i went into a hospital voluntarily and they used my own(very bad dr) dr there to commit me when it should have been two independent drs. i wanted to leave because they kept me in seclusion- it was torture for me not to talk to anyone or have anything except a mattress and blanket in a tiny 8x10 white room. The hospital looked nice outside of that room- was in a trauma disorders unit but it was so traumatic for me. They let me go on the last day of my insurance coverage.
Then they sued me for what the insurance didn't cover! Just happy to stay out of there,
kerria
Posted by holymama on August 15, 2005, at 7:13:46
In reply to Re: Has anyone ever been commited? » rjlockhart98, posted by kerria on August 14, 2005, at 22:00:53
Being 'commited' and voluntarily admitting yourself to a hospital are two very different things. Like everyone here has said, it would be difficult for doctors to commit you. I've heard of people being commited for things like psychosis and perhaps irrational suicidal depression. Voluntarily commiting yourself to a hospital is usually an o.k. experience (some people might object, but I bet the majority would agree). I've voluntarily admitted myself three different times, for a week each time. It is mostly to change my medications when I'm really bad off, and when I'm feeling really suicidal and don't know what I might do.
I know that I've been in a 'private hospital' (not connected to a hospital) two times and had even what I might call a 'fun' experience. The patients bonded with eachother, the nurses and doctors were nice, rules were pretty relaxed and we could go for long walks by ourselves outside.
My other hospitalization was in a real hospital. I went to their ER and then they brought me upstairs to the psych ward. That wasn't so much fun. Much more strict, I think they see more serious cases than a private hospital. I did feel like I wanted to escape this one. Luckily it was only for a week too.
Posted by Dr. Bob on August 15, 2005, at 20:15:14
In reply to Re: Has anyone ever been commited?, posted by med_empowered on August 14, 2005, at 1:14:25
> The funniest moment, I think, was when we had "Movie night" at my mental hospital; they asked what everybody wanted to see, and I piped up and said I wanted to see "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest".
I'd just like to plug the double double quotes feature at this site:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#amazon
The first time anyone refers to a book, movie, or music without using this option, I post this to try to make sure he or she at least knows about it. It's just an option, though, and doesn't *have* to be used. If people *choose* not to use it, I'd be interested why not, but I'd like that redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20020918/msgs/7717.html
Thanks!
Bob
Posted by med_empowered on August 16, 2005, at 0:38:34
In reply to Re: double double quotes » med_empowered, posted by Dr. Bob on August 15, 2005, at 20:15:14
Hey Dr. Bob! Thanks for the reminder...I forgot all about the double-double quotes feature. I'll be sure to use it in the future.
Posted by B2chica on August 16, 2005, at 11:07:17
In reply to Has anyone ever been commited?, posted by rjlockhart98 on August 13, 2005, at 21:26:03
i too have been in the hospital several times (the last few not long enough). anymore hospitals want to get you out so the typical stay is 2-3 days. however the first time i was in i was there two weeks and third time was there one week so it depends. however, i voluntarily put myself there and that makes the world of difference. cuz you can get out when you want (usually if doc disagrees you need a 48 hour written notice). but my experiences in the hospital were mostly good. However, once when i od'd i was taken to a crisis center run by the county. THAT WAS HORRIBLE! so take my advice and be proactive. if you are feeling suicidal talk with your T or pdoc, or just go to the hospital they'll evaluate you and choose to admit you or not.
best wishes
b2c.
Posted by Dr. Bob on August 17, 2005, at 14:57:23
In reply to Re: double double quotes, posted by med_empowered on August 16, 2005, at 0:38:34
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