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Posted by mmcconathy on February 25, 2005, at 22:44:23
I am not going to touch tranquilizers, i have to much to worry about right now, last thing is addiction.
Would Zyprexa be helpful during a situation when an individuel is very mentally unstable, on the fear of complete collapse, of sanity and functions, and protect nuerons from becoming malformed.
Thorazine i am thinking about, i dont have time to relax, forget anything to help ease tension, its out here. Thorazine may help thinking during a intense mental crisis to keep thoughts in order, i am considering this.
Respirdal i have tried from samples, 1mg, mm dulled feelings and didnt let thoughts go deep.
I have got to consider this soon.
I am danmed, and i have got to deal with it.
Matt
Posted by snapper on February 25, 2005, at 23:02:15
In reply to Anti-Psychotics during a intense mental crisis, posted by mmcconathy on February 25, 2005, at 22:44:23
Yep, ZyPrexa might just be the ticket to chill out! But Unless you are actively a potential threat to yourself or others I dought Thorazine would be the best. Yes it will knock a horse out but You probably want to be somewhat co-herent so you could communicate with your caregivers
Snapper
Posted by Phillipa on February 26, 2005, at 0:23:09
In reply to Re: Anti-Psychotics during a intense mental crisis, posted by snapper on February 25, 2005, at 23:02:15
Call the crisis line. I'm following your Threads. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by HappyGirl on February 26, 2005, at 0:58:41
In reply to Anti-Psychotics during a intense mental crisis, posted by mmcconathy on February 25, 2005, at 22:44:23
Hi:
In regard to 'Zyprexa,' ... this med. is one of most 'potent' A.P.s, next the Risperdal. Then, in my knowledge through the experience, a pdoc. does NOT rx an A.P., unless all of med. option are exhausted. One reason behind this seems an A.P. is so 'powerful' effect, then actually some M.I.s get sicker than before an A.P. One 'big' consideration over an A.P.is some adverse effects/S.E.s due to your 'non-tolerance' on an A.P. or simply your condition/chemical not asking for an A.P., such as the Zyprexa.In my suggestion, ... since you sound like a quite 'sick' at this moment, you need to talk your pdoc. ASAP, or else call to the M.I. 'hot' line which deals with those 'serious' M.I. cases.
H.G.
Posted by mmcconathy on February 26, 2005, at 22:38:43
In reply to Re: Anti-Psychotics during a intense mental crisis, posted by HappyGirl on February 26, 2005, at 0:58:41
I dont care if it has bad effects on mood, im in a bad time right, and i dont have time worry about my mood, i worry about sanity.
Now, does Thorazine cause "dysphoria" to an extreme, i dont mind dysphoria right now, well actually everyday now is helpless dysphoria, but now one cares. I need reienforcing direct effect to disturbing emotions, they distress me to a point to breakdowns, but no one cares either, mom wouldnt care if blew by brains on her carpet, she would just go by some Resolve carpet cleaner and complain.
Someone tell me something please
Posted by Phillipa on February 26, 2005, at 23:46:03
In reply to Re: i will ask about Thorazine, posted by mmcconathy on February 26, 2005, at 22:38:43
Matt, will you please get some help? You can't doctor yourself any longer. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by mmcconathy on February 27, 2005, at 0:04:55
In reply to Re: i will ask about Thorazine » mmcconathy, posted by Phillipa on February 26, 2005, at 23:46:03
I am already at it, looking at doctors
I wont be around here much anymore.
Thank you for caring.
Posted by Phillipa on February 27, 2005, at 0:10:35
In reply to Re: i will ask about Thorazine » mmcconathy, posted by Phillipa on February 26, 2005, at 23:46:03
I hope this means that you are finally going for some professional help? Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by HappyGirl on February 27, 2005, at 0:11:33
In reply to Re: i will ask about Thorazine, posted by mmcconathy on February 26, 2005, at 22:38:43
Hi mmcconathy :
If you 'still' think you need some form of 'potent' med. for your 'dysphoric' problem, ... then you could take a VERY tiny dosage of the Zyprexa, like the 2.5 mg., even 1.25 mg. by cutting a tiny, 2.5 mg. in a half. If you'd find this help your problem, then move up even the 5 mg. However, at this dosage, the 5 mg., an 'average dosage,' you certainly need your pdoc.'s advice along with a good instruction and education regarding the Zyprexa.For me, Zyprexa has been helping me on the 'dysphoric' side along with other several problems due to Bp II. I could recommend you, ... but again you need to be cautious not to go up quick. There might be other 'option' available to you. But, in my knowledge, even one 'five' years old boy taking this med., Zyprexa for his problem. Then, at your age, 17-18 age, I never surprise you started thinking of med., like Zyprexa which has more 'powerful' efficacy to fix your problem in short-time period.
H.G.
Posted by Dinah on February 27, 2005, at 0:14:14
In reply to Re: i will ask about Thorazine, posted by mmcconathy on February 26, 2005, at 22:38:43
I was on Thorazine for nearly a year, at a very high dose for a preteen. I don't recall it causing any dysphoria. The doctor and my parents told me it was Valium, and it did feel like a tranquilizer.
I'm not sure your doctor will want to prescribe it with the newer AP's available.
But I do think you should call your doctor, or better yet an emergency room. There's no substitute for real life professionals. There is good help out there. If you haven't found it yet, keep trying. If your mother won't bring you, call for help.
Posted by mmcconathy on February 27, 2005, at 0:23:08
In reply to Re: i will ask about Thorazine » mmcconathy, posted by HappyGirl on February 27, 2005, at 0:11:33
ok thanks, i will discuss Zyprexa, thorazine is a little to extreme but im willing to any thing right now.
Tryin to get my psychiatrist is like going throught a divorce process in texas! my mom will put off, if i try to call the danm office my self she will call them back and cancel it, and then slap me.
B*tch...
I am sueing her HARD! when i grow up. I have already put hypnotic commands that she is my enenemy, not my mom, fight her at nothing.
THnaks, i'm sorry post are so unsturctured, thats antoher problem i am going to deal with after this, social skills.
Thanks you all for your help
Posted by ed_uk on February 27, 2005, at 8:37:23
In reply to Re: i will ask about Thorazine, posted by mmcconathy on February 26, 2005, at 22:38:43
Hi Matt,
>does Thorazine cause "dysphoria" to an extreme
It did for me :-( It landed me fast in the ER and I had to be sedated to deal with the side effects.
The side effects are VERY dose-dependent. The side effects are much worse if the dose is too high. If you do want to try chlorpromazine, keep the dose low... doses of 10-25mg may be sufficient.
Ed.
Posted by SLS on February 27, 2005, at 10:00:50
In reply to Anti-Psychotics during a intense mental crisis, posted by mmcconathy on February 25, 2005, at 22:44:23
Hi.
What exactly is your diagnosis?
I am so glad that you are exercising your intellect in attacking your current episode. I believe you will win. I responded to your post on the Faith board. It appears that was wrong as to which number I thought you would choose. :-)
I would consider trying Zyprexa before Thorazine for reasons I'm sure you are well familiar with. Is there any reason why you feel Thorazine would be a better choice? Perhaps your reasoning is valid.
I would not rule-out the addition of Klonopin, a benzodiazepine, to your medication if the antipsychotic by itself is inadequate. The two drugs make for a powerful combination that few other strategies can match when a psychosis doesn't respond readily to other treatments. If you don't have a substance-abuse problem, I would not be afraid of it.
Zyprexa usually produces CLEARER THINKING, which I know is important to you.
Maybe you could try the Zyprexa first. If it doesn't work, you and your doctor can then discuss alternate strategies.
- Scott
Posted by HappyGirl on February 27, 2005, at 12:49:26
In reply to Re: i will ask about Thorazine, posted by mmcconathy on February 27, 2005, at 0:23:08
Hi Matt:
>>> my mom will put off, if i try to call the danm office my self she will call them back and cancel it, and then slap me. <<<
--- If you are a 18 years' old, then in my knowledge, your Mom has NO authority to intercept your appt. with the pdoc. Even, some of pdocs. do NOT allow his/her parents to get into his/her office. Partly, like your case, some of those parents asking 'too many' questions over 'choosing' psycho. meds. for his/her 'almost' grown children. However, in my guess, your Mom has some 'concern' over your psycho. med.'s selection, particualrly if she has NO good knowledge about those 'potent' med. like the Zyprexa. Even, she might think, just those 'crazy' people taking an A.P. When I went to the local M.I. support, one of parents upset SO much over rx of the Zyprexa for her daughter's condition. Then, I wouldn't be surprised your Mom's reaction once you have gotten an A.P., Zyprexa.
In my suggestion, ... just hand her a best available information regarding the Zyprexa for the family's peace and harmoney's sake. Absolutely, NO verbal fight allowed at this moment, seeing your current mental condition. But, I'm guessing that your Mom is happy about your indepedence to deal with your problem all by yourself, not bothering your parents.
Also, one more thing to add is those 'powerful' meds. are quite expensive, ... then try to get along with your parents at the best you can.
H.G.
Posted by Phillipa on February 27, 2005, at 12:58:47
In reply to Re: i will ask about Thorazine » mmcconathy, posted by HappyGirl on February 27, 2005, at 12:49:26
Matt, I want to add that Thorazine can really lower your blood pressure. Listen to your friends here. We support, and care for you. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by up'n'down on March 1, 2005, at 3:15:07
In reply to Re: i will ask about Thorazine, posted by Phillipa on February 27, 2005, at 12:58:47
> Matt, I want to add that Thorazine can really lower your blood pressure. Listen to your friends here. We support, and care for you. Fondly, Phillipa
Dear Matt;
I already posted once to you on a previous thread tonight, but I want to reinforce what we all have been saying: you matter, we care, and get help!:+)
U'D
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