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Posted by Michael Bell on January 6, 2005, at 20:22:20
After trying to combat the dysthimic and anhedonic feelings caused by long term Klonopin used, I decided to go back to Nardil. It's my third day. The hypertensive thing scares me, but if I can eliminate that risk then I have no misgivings about this choice.
Cheers.
Posted by Phillipa on January 6, 2005, at 20:55:13
In reply to Back on Nardil, posted by Michael Bell on January 6, 2005, at 20:22:20
You mean Klonopin caused that much depression? Wow! I need to get off this drug. I'll begin a taper. I've stopped Cymbalta, but still feel awful, so it must be klonopin. Phillipa
Posted by ace on January 6, 2005, at 20:56:15
In reply to Back on Nardil, posted by Michael Bell on January 6, 2005, at 20:22:20
> After trying to combat the dysthimic and anhedonic feelings caused by long term Klonopin used, I decided to go back to Nardil. It's my third day. The hypertensive thing scares me, but if I can eliminate that risk then I have no misgivings about this choice.
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> Cheers.Good choice bro!!! As i have always said, Nardil rules!!
How long were u of it for??
Ace
Posted by Dan Perkins on January 6, 2005, at 21:01:39
In reply to Re: Back on Nardil » Michael Bell, posted by Phillipa on January 6, 2005, at 20:55:13
I've posted a few things about Klonopin depression recently. After a few hours of anxiety relief from Klonopin, I sink into the the most miserable depression that lasts a few days. It sucks so bad that something so good for my social anxiety exacts such a high price on the depression front!
> You mean Klonopin caused that much depression? Wow! I need to get off this drug. I'll begin a taper. I've stopped Cymbalta, but still feel awful, so it must be klonopin. Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on January 6, 2005, at 21:14:17
In reply to Re: Back on Nardil, posted by Dan Perkins on January 6, 2005, at 21:01:39
I can't believe the pdoc's are so brainwashed that they believe it can't depress you. It even says it can in the drug book I have. Xanax is supposed to have an anti-depressive link to it but the doc's are afraid you'll become addicted. When will they realize that you only take what you need to feel "normal"? You would only abuse it if you were an abuser. Phillipa
Posted by Dan Perkins on January 6, 2005, at 21:32:35
In reply to Re: Back on Nardil » Dan Perkins, posted by Phillipa on January 6, 2005, at 21:14:17
It really shows you that they get their info primarily from the pharmaceutical sales reps and are too lazy to even check what the reps tell them against what is written in the Physician's Desk Reference book (even though the information in the book, in my experience, underestimates side-effects to a ridiculous degree).
How naive (and lazy!) do you have to be to believe that a drug company salesperson who works on commission is going to be honest and forthright with you about the drugs they are pitching.
> I can't believe the pdoc's are so brainwashed that they believe it can't depress you. It even says it can in the drug book
Posted by Michael Bell on January 7, 2005, at 0:16:30
In reply to Re: Back on Nardil » Michael Bell, posted by Phillipa on January 6, 2005, at 20:55:13
> You mean Klonopin caused that much depression? Wow! I need to get off this drug. I'll begin a taper. I've stopped Cymbalta, but still feel awful, so it must be klonopin. Phillipa
Well, I'm not sure what major depression feels like, but what I was feeling was not so much a sense of sadness or hopelessness. Rather, it was a flattening of affect that allowed me to feel no joy (along with no anxiety either). Eventually it reached a point where I had this slight negative feeling all the time, maybe you could call it depression, I don't know. Before you dump the Klonopin, just remember everybody reacts differently to medication, and despite the negatives, Klono is extremely effective for social anxiety.
Bottom line is the best meds currently for Social phobia are either:
1) Klonopin + something to stave off the ensuing depression- or -
2) NardilI'm still tapering off the Klonopin, by the way, so I'm not sure when I'm going to get off of it completely
Posted by Michael Bell on January 7, 2005, at 0:20:07
In reply to Re: Back on Nardil » Michael Bell, posted by ace on January 6, 2005, at 20:56:15
> > After trying to combat the dysthimic and anhedonic feelings caused by long term Klonopin used, I decided to go back to Nardil. It's my third day. The hypertensive thing scares me, but if I can eliminate that risk then I have no misgivings about this choice.
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> > Cheers.
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> Good choice bro!!! As i have always said, Nardil rules!!
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> How long were u of it for??
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> Ace
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>Ace, it's good to hear encouragement from the Nardil champ!
About one year ago, I was on Nardil for about 3 weeks and started noticing the effect within 1 week. However, I ended up having a ridiculous manic episode (which I've never had before) when I combined it with alcohol one night, and that scared me off the drug. But I'm giving it a second shot and plan to lay off the drinks in the meantime.
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