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Posted by socialdeviantjeff on February 27, 2004, at 2:08:20
Well, I thought I'd take a cue from the other Pbabblers and do my own med journal.
I've been taking 5 mg. of Ablify for roughly two weeks. I had to stop for a few days because Pleurisy and I was Leery of combining it with major painkillers.
Anyway this drug is the first one to have some tangible positive effects in spite of the drawbacks. It doesn't help with the depression, but I can actually do things and I'm not too overwhelmed by projects. I even managed to make and RC car out of some piece of junk without anything in it for my daughter. Took 2 days to fit the motors and electronics and it looks exactly as it did before except for a power switch in the bottom. Now I'm dragging out all of my former lab piece by piece. She thinks it's neat and is interested in electronics now. I've also been more organized lately. Not much more, but an improvement.
The drawbacks are that I'm really edgy and impatient. Worst of all, I have true insomnia. Not just the usual delayed phase problem. Gotta see about a sleep aid.
Yesterday I went out with some friends and had a fairly deacent time for a change. Really rough around the edges but better than a month ago.
Today, things were not so great. I went back to work after two weeks and I was late. I got down on myself about how I can't be on time and can't do even half the things required of me. I don't belong. I spiraled into suicidal ideation for a while. I also nearly fought a customer. Not the best return to work day I guess. I feel like crap but at least I have energy.
Posted by Ilene on February 27, 2004, at 16:17:55
In reply to Abilify Chronicles-Week 1, posted by socialdeviantjeff on February 27, 2004, at 2:08:20
> Well, I thought I'd take a cue from the other Pbabblers and do my own med journal.
>
> I've been taking 5 mg. of Ablify for roughly two weeks. I had to stop for a few days because Pleurisy and I was Leery of combining it with major painkillers.
>
> Anyway this drug is the first one to have some tangible positive effects in spite of the drawbacks. It doesn't help with the depression, but I can actually do things and I'm not too overwhelmed by projects. I even managed to make and RC car out of some piece of junk without anything in it for my daughter. Took 2 days to fit the motors and electronics and it looks exactly as it did before except for a power switch in the bottom. Now I'm dragging out all of my former lab piece by piece. She thinks it's neat and is interested in electronics now. I've also been more organized lately. Not much more, but an improvement.
>
I've read that sometimes people feel more energetic before they feel less depressed. A good sign.> The drawbacks are that I'm really edgy and impatient. Worst of all, I have true insomnia. Not just the usual delayed phase problem. Gotta see about a sleep aid.
>
Can you take benzos?> Yesterday I went out with some friends and had a fairly deacent time for a change. Really rough around the edges but better than a month ago.
>
You've got friends! Mine have all disappeared.> Today, things were not so great. I went back to work after two weeks and I was late. I got down on myself about how I can't be on time and can't do even half the things required of me. I don't belong. I spiraled into suicidal ideation for a while. I also nearly fought a customer. Not the best return to work day I guess. I feel like crap but at least I have energy.
Maybe you should get a job as a bouncer. Then it will be okay to get into fights with customers.
Posted by socialdeviantjeff on February 28, 2004, at 3:30:05
In reply to Re: Abilify Chronicles-Week 1, posted by Ilene on February 27, 2004, at 16:17:55
> > Well, I thought I'd take a cue from the other Pbabblers and do my own med journal.
> >
> > I've been taking 5 mg. of Ablify for roughly two weeks. I had to stop for a few days because Pleurisy and I was Leery of combining it with major painkillers.
> >
> > Anyway this drug is the first one to have some tangible positive effects in spite of the drawbacks. It doesn't help with the depression, but I can actually do things and I'm not too overwhelmed by projects. I even managed to make and RC car out of some piece of junk without anything in it for my daughter. Took 2 days to fit the motors and electronics and it looks exactly as it did before except for a power switch in the bottom. Now I'm dragging out all of my former lab piece by piece. She thinks it's neat and is interested in electronics now. I've also been more organized lately. Not much more, but an improvement.
> >
> I've read that sometimes people feel more energetic before they feel less depressed. A good sign.
>crossing my fingers....
> > The drawbacks are that I'm really edgy and impatient. Worst of all, I have true insomnia. Not just the usual delayed phase problem. Gotta see about a sleep aid.
> >
> Can you take benzos?Nope. too high abuse potential. Plus even a low dose works but makes me a zombie.
>
> > Yesterday I went out with some friends and had a fairly deacent time for a change. Really rough around the edges but better than a month ago.
> >
> You've got friends! Mine have all disappeared.I haven't.... :) Most of my friends have mental ilness. Three are Bipolar and one is Schitzophrenic. I suppose that's why we all get along so well.
>
> > Today, things were not so great. I went back to work after two weeks and I was late. I got down on myself about how I can't be on time and can't do even half the things required of me. I don't belong. I spiraled into suicidal ideation for a while. I also nearly fought a customer. Not the best return to work day I guess. I feel like crap but at least I have energy.
>
> Maybe you should get a job as a bouncer. Then it will be okay to get into fights with customers.
>Aaaahhh... Tried that. Apparantly I'm not good at a REAL confrontation. I sort of gray out and become 5 years old.
Posted by socialdeviantjeff on February 28, 2004, at 3:49:01
In reply to Re: Abilify Chronicles-Week 1, posted by socialdeviantjeff on February 28, 2004, at 3:30:05
Much of the same. I had my daughter over today.she was so great but I was still stressed to the max. Edgy edgy edgy. Called my pdoc about the edgieness and insomnia. Still look forward to hearing from him. Dreading work on Thursday.
SDJ
Posted by Ilene on February 28, 2004, at 19:55:07
In reply to Re: Abilify Chronicles-Week 1, posted by socialdeviantjeff on February 28, 2004, at 3:30:05
> > Can you take benzos?
>
> Nope. too high abuse potential. Plus even a low dose works but makes me a zombie.
>
> >
Have you abused substances in the past, or the is the abuse potential theoretical? I was worried about tolerance and dependence, but it hasn't happened.I take 1/2 a 0.5mg Klonopin. If I take a whole tablet I'm....gone.
> > You've got friends! Mine have all disappeared.
>
> I haven't.... :)
>
Let's go to a movie!
> >I.
Posted by socialdeviantjeff on February 28, 2004, at 21:59:32
In reply to Re: Abilify Chronicles-Week 1, posted by Ilene on February 28, 2004, at 19:55:07
> > > Can you take benzos?
> >
> > Nope. too high abuse potential. Plus even a low dose works but makes me a zombie.
> >
> > >
> Have you abused substances in the past, or the is the abuse potential theoretical? I was worried about tolerance and dependence, but it hasn't happened.
>
> I take 1/2 a 0.5mg Klonopin. If I take a whole tablet I'm....gone.
>I've never abused it, but drug abuse and alchoholism runs in my family big time. I really do hav to be cautious. aLmost became an alchoholic as a bartender.
> > > You've got friends! Mine have all disappeared.
> >
> > I haven't.... :)
> >
> Let's go to a movie!
> > >
>You're on! (as long as you don't mind 26 yearolds that live with their parents)
> I.
>
>
Posted by Chairman_MAO on February 29, 2004, at 9:53:00
In reply to Re: Abilify Chronicles-Week 1 » Ilene, posted by socialdeviantjeff on February 28, 2004, at 21:59:32
>I've never abused it, but drug abuse and alchoholism runs in my family big time. I really do hav to be cautious. aLmost became an alchoholic as a bartender.
Alcoholism is a PSYCHOSOCIAL disorder. Simply because others in your family and yourself have/had a predisposition toward drug abuse in certain situations does not mean that you will "lose control" and go nuts with benzodiazepines. This is simply not true. People abuse drugs for REASONS; drug abuse is behavior; and it is impossible to code behavior in genes, only predispositions. Proponents of the disease model of alcoholism/drug addiction use this junk pseudoscience to perpetuate their myths.
Don't believe me? Read "The Diseasing of America: How We Allowed Recovery Zealots and the Treatment Industry to Convince Us We Are Out of Control" by Stanton Peele or "Heavy Drinking: The Myth of Alcoholism as a Disease" by Herbert Fingarette, distinguished professor of philosophy and addiction consultant to the WHO.
Posted by Ilene on February 29, 2004, at 18:39:59
In reply to Re: Abilify Chronicles-Week 1 » Ilene, posted by socialdeviantjeff on February 28, 2004, at 21:59:32
> > Let's go to a movie!
>
> You're on! (as long as you don't mind 26 yearolds that live with their parents)
>As long as you don't mind severely depressed housewives.
Posted by socialdeviantjeff on March 1, 2004, at 0:27:00
In reply to Re: Abilify Chronicles-Week 1, posted by Ilene on February 29, 2004, at 18:39:59
Posted by socialdeviantjeff on March 1, 2004, at 1:03:05
In reply to Re: Abilify Chronicles-Week 1 » socialdeviantjeff, posted by Chairman_MAO on February 29, 2004, at 9:53:00
Interesting view point. I suppose that I struck a nerve?
anyway, those books are on my Library to read list. I guess I'm concerned aout overusing Benzos for a "comfort thing" although I've become almost used to being uncomfortable all the time. Another question for the Chairman, if you don't mind: would you be able to point me in the direction of possible causes for a person to react badly to a very wide spectrum of Ad's, TCA's SSRI's, SNRI's anticonvulsants, mood stabilizers and antipsychotics? I would list them but that's a lot ot write.
Either way, thanks
Posted by Ilene on March 1, 2004, at 11:26:57
In reply to Then what are we waiting for? :) (nm) » Ilene, posted by socialdeviantjeff on March 1, 2004, at 0:27:00
Where shall we meet? East or west of the Mississippi?
I.
Posted by gooses_2 on March 1, 2004, at 11:39:58
In reply to Re: Abilify Chronicles-Week 1 » Chairman_MAO, posted by socialdeviantjeff on March 1, 2004, at 1:03:05
i was wondering if anyone has any insight on sleeping while on ablilify. i love the drug except i never sleep. any help would be great :)
Posted by socialdeviantjeff on March 2, 2004, at 22:53:38
In reply to Re: Then what are we waiting for? :) » socialdeviantjeff, posted by Ilene on March 1, 2004, at 11:26:57
Well, I'm in Utard so maybe we should just meet halfway, at the river. Unless you live in the west :)
Posted by Ilene on March 3, 2004, at 9:44:19
In reply to Re: Then what are we waiting for? :), posted by socialdeviantjeff on March 2, 2004, at 22:53:38
> Well, I'm in Utard so maybe we should just meet halfway, at the river. Unless you live in the west :)
Utard? Heh.
Right now I live in the Washington DC area. In a few months I'll be living in San Francisco.
For now it's Meet Me in St. Louis.
I.
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