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Posted by jerrympls on February 17, 2004, at 21:33:38
My pdoc put me on Vicdodin in December when I was going through terrible withdrawl from Nardil. When I got back in to town after 2 week with my family - I told my pdoc that I didn't think th eVicodin wasn't working - but actually it WAS working - it was just that the Nardil withdrawl was overpowering.
Anyway, she said that we could do "Vicodin Holidays" every now and then. So I asked her today because my B-day is tomorrow and I just wanted to "FEEL" somewaht close to good. However, she didn't want to do it and instead increased my Effexor and Concerta. She basically said "Let's wait until we max out the Effexor and Concerta before adding and Vicodin." ARGH!!!!
So, I guess I'm just saying I'm disappointed. I feel so plain, apathetic and dysphoric - espeically coming down off the Concerta - which really doesn't help much anyway!
So I had one Vicodin left and took it tonight -and I'm a different person - I started to clean my apt., listen to music, etc., etc.
So now what should I do? Call up and beg?
.....ugh....I just want to "feel."
Jerry
Posted by antiTrust on February 18, 2004, at 16:52:29
In reply to Vicodin is a no go all the sudden??, posted by jerrympls on February 17, 2004, at 21:33:38
WOW i have never heard of a pdoc that would RX
V's for depression/anxiety etc.
BUT you siad it was RX'd to help w/ withdrawal from nardil?
Posted by gardenergirl on February 18, 2004, at 17:16:42
In reply to Re: Vicodin is a no go all the sudden?? » jerrympls, posted by antiTrust on February 18, 2004, at 16:52:29
I'm sorry you have to go through such an ordeal. I'm just curious. What are your withdrawal symptoms?
gg
Posted by jerrympls on February 18, 2004, at 17:39:48
In reply to Re: Vicodin is a no go all the sudden??, posted by gardenergirl on February 18, 2004, at 17:16:42
> I'm sorry you have to go through such an ordeal. I'm just curious. What are your withdrawal symptoms?
>
> ggWithdraw from Nardil was the worst experience of my life. If you ever go off of it - go VERY VERY SLOWLY - VERY VERY SLOWLY. My doc tapered my slowly - but I still had horrible withdrawl:
1) I became horribly, severely depressed VERy quickly
2) I had uncontrollable crying fits that would start at the drop of a hat and were so powerful that it was like vomiting. Crying would last for minutes to an hour - unable to stop.
3) I became VERY VERY close to considering suicideThose were the worst. No "brain shocks" like with SSRIs or dizziness, etc - mostly emotional side effects. Why did I go off of it? Becuase it was causing extreme weight gain, joint pain, water retention, constipation, complete loss of interest of sex and complete loss of ANY sexual desire. Found out it also was agrivating my asthma and caused horrific nights of acid reflux where I would wake up having aspirated the acid - the most painful thing I have every gone through.
Nardil was a wonderdrug when I first started it - but after a month or two it went down hill.
As for the Vicodin - my doctor is a psychiatrist at a Big Ten univeristy teaching hospital - a VERY good place for experimental therapies and uses of meds for off-label uses. The Vicodin was NOT prescribed for the withdrawl - we had no idea how bad the withdrawl would be. I mentioned to my doc before the holidays that opiates had always helped my depression. She then discussed my cases with collegues and they gave the ok to give it a try.
I've had treatment resistant depression for about 10-11 years (I'm 32 today). Been on every cocktail - not looking at other dopamine agonists like Mirapex, etc.
Jerry
Posted by jerrympls on February 18, 2004, at 17:40:41
In reply to Re: Vicodin is a no go all the sudden?? » jerrympls, posted by antiTrust on February 18, 2004, at 16:52:29
> WOW i have never heard of a pdoc that would RX
> V's for depression/anxiety etc.
> BUT you siad it was RX'd to help w/ withdrawal from nardil?
>As for the Vicodin - my doctor is a psychiatrist at a Big Ten univeristy teaching hospital - a VERY good place for experimental therapies and uses of meds for off-label uses. The Vicodin was NOT prescribed for the withdrawl - we had no idea how bad the withdrawl would be. I mentioned to my doc before the holidays that opiates had always helped my depression. She then discussed my cases with collegues and they gave the ok to give it a try.
Posted by AntiTrust on February 18, 2004, at 18:16:10
In reply to Re: Vicodin is a no go all the sudden?? » gardenergirl, posted by jerrympls on February 18, 2004, at 17:39:48
I was first given my first 'taste' of viks when I had oral surgery and I can not take vicodin in any dose-therefore that is why I questioned the vicodin being rx'd for withdrawal. I mis understood you post. sorry
Posted by jerrympls on February 18, 2004, at 18:25:18
In reply to Re: Vicodin is a no go all the sudden?? » jerrympls, posted by AntiTrust on February 18, 2004, at 18:16:10
> I was first given my first 'taste' of viks when I had oral surgery and I can not take vicodin in any dose-therefore that is why I questioned the vicodin being rx'd for withdrawal. I mis understood you post. sorry
Oh no problem at all! :-)
Jerry
Posted by gardenergirl on February 18, 2004, at 23:13:01
In reply to Re: Vicodin is a no go all the sudden?? » gardenergirl, posted by jerrympls on February 18, 2004, at 17:39:48
jerrympls,
Thanks for the info. I hope I never have to go off of nardil as it has been a godsend for me. I hope you find the right med for you. It is such a relief when you do. Before I started the nardil I had been dealing with atypical depression more or less for about 18 years. No SSRI or other treatment worked until the nardil.
I know how much it s*cks to deal with long term depression. My fingers are crossed for you.
gg
Posted by gardenergirl on February 18, 2004, at 23:15:53
In reply to Re: Vicodin is a no go all the sudden?? » AntiTrust, posted by jerrympls on February 18, 2004, at 18:25:18
BTW, I was given vicoprofen during some dental surgery. I took it for just under a week. I did not feel depressed at the time (was also on Nardil). I was just focused on getting rid of the pain. I'm not sure the "feel good" aspect of this was there, although it did take care of the pain. Odd, because I usually am quite sensitive to meds.
gg
Posted by linkadge on February 19, 2004, at 7:43:22
In reply to Re: Vicodin is a no go all the sudden??, posted by gardenergirl on February 18, 2004, at 23:15:53
I have to run for 2 hours a day in order to feel good. No other antidepressant makes me feel better like this.
Codiene did the same thing.
Linkadge
Posted by leo33 on February 19, 2004, at 21:20:42
In reply to Re: Vicodin is a no go all the sudden?? » gardenergirl, posted by jerrympls on February 18, 2004, at 17:39:48
I too had horrible withdrawals coming off of Nardil. I was on it for 5 years and when I was taken off of it I was being monitored in an outpatient setting in the hospital. The withdrawal was horrendous and I felt like jumping out of my skin. I was not told then that I would have serious withdrawals and they gave me nothing to help with it. I did take an overdose of sleeping pills while this was happening and almost died. This was 6 years ago. I have never look at these medications the same again and my trust of the doctors giving these medications is not very high. This site and the people on it are much more informative and forthcoming than you will receive from the doctors or pharmaceutical companies. Please use these medications with great caution as they can cause as many problems as they can correct.
Posted by AnAPa on February 20, 2004, at 1:11:45
In reply to Re: Vicodin is a no go all the sudden??, posted by leo33 on February 19, 2004, at 21:20:42
If I could get a doc to give me vicodin or darvocet all the time i would have no problems. I am the most calm happy person when im on them i have ambition and want to be around people. when im not on them nothing seems to help, i take prozac and buspar, not even close to vicoden.
Posted by noa on February 20, 2004, at 17:16:57
In reply to Re: Vicodin is a no go all the sudden?? » jerrympls, posted by gardenergirl on February 18, 2004, at 23:13:01
I once took vicoprofren (vicodin plus ibuprofren) for severe ear and throat pain due to coxsackie virus. My experience was that the pain was only paritally dulled but the medicine made me not care that I was feeling some pain. But it also totally sedated me so that all I could do was sleep, pretty much.
I know that vicoden has a lot of abuse potential, so it is interesting that your pdoc prescribed it.
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