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Posted by Ellen S. on January 4, 2004, at 17:44:35
Interesting article for readers of this board: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/04/magazine/04LIVES.html
This is an essay by a psychiatrist who experienced bad side effects from wellbutrin (bupropion) and now has a better insight into her patients' situations.
Posted by Zenclearer on January 4, 2004, at 21:21:43
In reply to Newspaper story: p-doc describes bad side effects, posted by Ellen S. on January 4, 2004, at 17:44:35
And a darn good article it is! Meaning, docs NEED to understand that people sometimes suffer needlessly on these meds. And sometimes, dangerously.
> Interesting article for readers of this board: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/04/magazine/04LIVES.html
>
> This is an essay by a psychiatrist who experienced bad side effects from wellbutrin (bupropion) and now has a better insight into her patients' situations.
Posted by psychlover on January 5, 2004, at 5:39:19
In reply to Re: Newspaper story: p-doc describes bad side effe, posted by Zenclearer on January 4, 2004, at 21:21:43
I was initially quite excited to see this article in the NY Times, but after I read it, I just felt like what an incompetent fool that doctor is. Can you imagine a psychiatrist who is so ignorant about the meds she routinely dispenses? I mean Wellbutrin isn't exactly uncommon. I am really surprised by this article. To read it you would think the woman has no experience or insight into her field. She might as well be a businessman or a bus driver for all the insight and knowledge she seems to bring to the table. And I don't agree with her conclusion that her reaction was "antidepressant toxicity". It seems to me that panic attacks and high levels of anxiety are pretty common side effects of bupropion, not like she was allergic to it or something. I was expecting something enlightening, but I was disappointed.
Posted by sjb on January 5, 2004, at 8:39:09
In reply to Re: Newspaper story: p-doc amazingly ignorant , posted by psychlover on January 5, 2004, at 5:39:19
I agree. I thought the article was very disappointing. I don't know how it even got published. This, from a woman who was practicing for 27 years? Also, with a father that committed suicide, she at least should have realized a potential for inherited mental illness.
Posted by Ellen S. on January 5, 2004, at 12:14:34
In reply to Re: Newspaper story: p-doc amazingly ignorant , posted by sjb on January 5, 2004, at 8:39:09
I fear that this doctor's obliviousness is more typical than many people want to believe...
Posted by Zenclearer on January 5, 2004, at 17:51:10
In reply to Re: Newspaper story: p-doc amazingly ignorant , posted by Ellen S. on January 5, 2004, at 12:14:34
There's nothing inherently wrong with the article.
What's RIGHT with the article is that it's honest. That's a HUGE benefit.
Her ignorance is likely reflective of many prescribing physicans, not to mention the general practicianers.
Further, as a patient, she should have trusted her own instincts to stop before consulting with a half dozen other professionals.
Posted by socialdeviantjeff on January 5, 2004, at 17:56:45
In reply to Re: Newspaper story: p-doc amazingly ignorant , posted by Zenclearer on January 5, 2004, at 17:51:10
I can appreciate this article for it's honesty. I think anyone who prescribes psychotropic meds should read this. I does show that the clinical detachment many doctors develop can in some ways be harmful if the patient is having complications with the meds. Many docs out there need to listen to their patients better.
Posted by brussell on January 6, 2004, at 7:40:13
In reply to Re: Newspaper story: p-doc amazingly ignorant , posted by psychlover on January 5, 2004, at 5:39:19
I agree that this Dr. and her collegues seemed unable to relate the Welbutrin to the anxiety problems, and that she continued to take it so long. The whole attitude towards her depression and panic seemed to bumbling and incompetent.
If I were a pdoc with sudden depression and had to work, I would probably put myself on a MAOI (much faster acting than SSRI's, fewer side effects), and if that didn't work I'd get ECT.
My own psychiatrist told me ECT would be his first choice if he were struck with a debilitating depression and had to keep working, because it is fast and nearly always works.
Posted by brussell on January 6, 2004, at 7:41:50
In reply to Re: Newspaper story: p-doc amazingly ignorant , posted by brussell on January 6, 2004, at 7:40:13
I also find it very strange that this Dr. and her collegues seemed unable to relate the Welbutrin to the anxiety problems, and that she continued to take it so long. The whole attitude towards her depression and panic seemed to bumbling and incompetent.
If I were a pdoc with sudden depression and had to work, I would probably put myself on a MAOI (much faster acting than SSRI's, fewer side effects), and if that didn't work I'd get ECT.
My own psychiatrist told me ECT would be his first choice if he were struck with a debilitating depression and had to keep working, because it is fast and nearly always works.
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