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Posted by linkadge on October 30, 2003, at 8:05:34
Parnate was just begginning to work, and something in my brain just clicked on. I felt like myself. Like somebody have finally recaptured who I originally was.
Then three days later I had a crisis where my blood pressure went up to 160/110 for 6 hours.
I was not panicking but I went to the hospital.
When the told me that they were taking me off of parnate, and that I had to wait 14 days, then they were going to put me on ritalin ! If anyone doesn't have ADHD, it's me. I snapped and told them that I had to wait through 14 days of hell coming off Celexa top get on this just long enough to be told you're going to have to do It all over again.They committed me for suicidial ideation. Then they fooled around with me for the next 2 weeks by trying this antipsychotic and this antispychotic. Then in the end of waiting, they said they weren't even sure what my diagnosis was so they were going to 'observe' for longer.
I said I'm through, I know what will help, and thats the meds I was taking prior to all of this, celexa and lithium. I'm walking home and going back on that. I still want to try and salvage some of my school year.
So I left on semi good terms. I have a follow up in a week. I'll tell you one thing, they sure want to be the bosses around there. They don't much apreciate anyone who knows about meds - let alone anyone who questions there opinion.
I told them I was extremely depressed and they said thats what the seroquel is for. Bull.
I'm done ranting and raving. But I'll tell you this, you've got to be your own doctor at some point.
Linkadge
Posted by Bill LL on October 30, 2003, at 9:33:24
In reply to Walked out of psychward, posted by linkadge on October 30, 2003, at 8:05:34
I agree with you that you have to be your own doctor to some extent. These meds are an inexact science that consists of trial and error. I'm glad you are going back to the meds that were effective in the past and that you are trying to salvage part of the school year. Being very aggressive with your treatment and with your life in general is the key to beating anxiety and depression.
Posted by Robert Fairburn on October 30, 2003, at 9:39:22
In reply to Walked out of psychward, posted by linkadge on October 30, 2003, at 8:05:34
I think what happened with your parnate is that you might of mucked up your diet. Im sure that u know that you have to be very very careful with what you eat.
Why not go back on the parnate or nardil and be VERY CAREFUL
Cheers Robert
As for docters I couldn't tell you what I think about them because id be kicked out for bad language
Posted by SandyWeb on October 30, 2003, at 11:41:41
In reply to Re: Walked out of psychward, posted by Robert Fairburn on October 30, 2003, at 9:39:22
I've never been on Parnate, but all the antidepressants AND antipsychotics have messed with my vital signs. I will either get high blood pressure or tachycardia. I have had blood pressure as high as yours from an antidepressant. Of course, the pdoc tells me "that is an unknown entity".....that all these different classes of meds can't cause such problems. Hmmmm......I wonder how she justifies the excessively increased vital signs??
What worked for me was a beta blocker. I take Inderal LA 80mg, once in the morning and once in the evening. This keeps my vital signs steady, and I now can take antidepressants. You may want to suggest something along this line to your doc when you see her next.
Good luck!
God bless,
Sandra
Posted by linkadge on October 30, 2003, at 13:27:12
In reply to Re: Walked out of psychward, posted by SandyWeb on October 30, 2003, at 11:41:41
If anyone was sticking strictly to this diet it was me. I crossreferenced about ten different diet lists and compiled the information into an exhaustive list. I *really* wanted to continue with this medication.
But for some darned reason, the meds that alter norepinephrine (which work the best for me) also raise my BP and pulse to unacceptable levels. Perhaps my noradrenic receptors are messed up who knows.
I can't stand it because they work best for my panic symptoms. They kind of help me to visualize the anxiety. I feel terrible.
This old medication will start to work soon enough though.
Linkadge
Posted by Robert Fairburn on October 30, 2003, at 13:35:12
In reply to Re: Walked out of psychward, posted by linkadge on October 30, 2003, at 13:27:12
How about a lower dose
Regards Robert
Posted by DSCH on October 30, 2003, at 15:16:09
In reply to Walked out of psychward, posted by linkadge on October 30, 2003, at 8:05:34
Posted by linkadge on October 30, 2003, at 17:59:53
In reply to What happened with your DIY-rTMS, Link? (nm), posted by DSCH on October 30, 2003, at 15:16:09
Actually that was one of the reasons I returned home was so that I could resume the use of this. I didn't even bother to try and explain this to them, it would've certainly complicated things.
Anyhow it was working alone for the majority of my symptoms. However my psychiatrist convinced me to add a drug to prevent a relapse.
Now that I am home, I have resumed the use of the rTMS, I am debating weather to resume the use of antidepressant medication. The main reason I like to continue to see the psychiatrist is because I want to keep my foot in the door. I know how these diseases can sometimes seem to remit from time to time, and I want to make sure that I have the support there if I need it.
Perhaps the combination of rTMS and Parnate gave me serotonin syndrome - I strongly believe I expereinced serotonin syndrome and not a hyptertensive crisis (as I had all of the other symptoms)
Let you know how things progress.Linkadge
Posted by Liligoth on October 30, 2003, at 18:35:53
In reply to Is that a jestful question ??, posted by linkadge on October 30, 2003, at 17:59:53
hi Link, sorry this all happened for you. What a b*mmer. Glad you are back home & getting back on track. Take care of yourself!
Posted by DSCH on October 30, 2003, at 19:37:30
In reply to Is that a jestful question ??, posted by linkadge on October 30, 2003, at 17:59:53
I jest not. I merely wondered why it rated no mention in previous post (as if you had abandoned it or something). Sorry.
Posted by wsj on October 31, 2003, at 8:28:12
In reply to Walked out of psychward, posted by linkadge on October 30, 2003, at 8:05:34
the doctor patient relationship has to be give and take to be successful. they have to listen closely to you to be able to diagnose. if they do not listten do not see them!
Posted by femlite on October 31, 2003, at 12:42:23
In reply to Walked out of psychward, posted by linkadge on October 30, 2003, at 8:05:34
Oh Link, Dearest friend,
Im am so sorry. I cant tell you how much I hurt for you. I will pray for you. esp. about school.
Your so right bud, somethings gotta give. I got called a drug seeker by my 4th pdoc a couple of days ago, and the reason I was calling his office was to find out why I was sobbing hysterically 5 hours after taking 20mg. Adderall.
If it wasnt for all you guys Id feel so lost. I got 4 or 5 responses from this board (all of them very helpful) as to what was happening to me, before he ever returned my call.Dr Bob if your reading this, you must realize that Pyscho Babble is somewhat to blame for these dilemas, of us knowing a little something we've learned here and if we speak about it we're called drug seekers. May be you could give us some quidance, or better yet have a few symposiums on "New Forms of Doctor /Patient Interaction" you know get the pdocs up to speed? It sure woulld help.
Bless you link, hang in there. You know how to reach me. Id be glad to listen.
Posted by Questionmark on November 1, 2003, at 14:38:59
In reply to Walked out of psychward, posted by linkadge on October 30, 2003, at 8:05:34
That's RIDICULOUS!!! ARRogant freaking P&$*#@!_@&%# pieces of !#($&#)$(*&!!!!! AOH that infURiates me.
Anyway, i'm so sorry for your ordeal. i'm ticked off just hearing about it. i hope you can work things out well and quickly. Good luck man.
> Parnate was just begginning to work, and something in my brain just clicked on. I felt like myself. Like somebody have finally recaptured who I originally was.
>
> Then three days later I had a crisis where my blood pressure went up to 160/110 for 6 hours.
>
> I was not panicking but I went to the hospital.
> When the told me that they were taking me off of parnate, and that I had to wait 14 days, then they were going to put me on ritalin ! If anyone doesn't have ADHD, it's me. I snapped and told them that I had to wait through 14 days of hell coming off Celexa top get on this just long enough to be told you're going to have to do It all over again.
>
> They committed me for suicidial ideation. Then they fooled around with me for the next 2 weeks by trying this antipsychotic and this antispychotic. Then in the end of waiting, they said they weren't even sure what my diagnosis was so they were going to 'observe' for longer.
>
> I said I'm through, I know what will help, and thats the meds I was taking prior to all of this, celexa and lithium. I'm walking home and going back on that. I still want to try and salvage some of my school year.
>
> So I left on semi good terms. I have a follow up in a week. I'll tell you one thing, they sure want to be the bosses around there. They don't much apreciate anyone who knows about meds - let alone anyone who questions there opinion.
>
> I told them I was extremely depressed and they said thats what the seroquel is for. Bull.
>
> I'm done ranting and raving. But I'll tell you this, you've got to be your own doctor at some point.
>
> Linkadge
Posted by cubbybear on November 2, 2003, at 1:56:26
In reply to Re: Walked out of.. » linkadge, posted by Questionmark on November 1, 2003, at 14:38:59
> That's RIDICULOUS!!! ARRogant freaking P&$*#@!_@&%# pieces of !#($&#)$(*&!!!!! AOH that infURiates me.
> Anyway, i'm so sorry for your ordeal. i'm ticked off just hearing about it. i hope you can work things out well and quickly. Good luck man.
>
I'd like to join in the 100 decibel cussing and bitterness I felt while reading what the hospital staff did and said. These callous morons should be strung up for inflicting more pain in a person who is suffering to begin with.
Imagine that you cut your finger and are bleeding profusely. So you go to the ER and the dr. on duty takes a scalpel and extends the cut even further so more blood comes out. Then when you ask what he/she's doing, the reply is, "This is to help get all the germs out," or some such thing. What do you do? Scream and rant? Call a lawyer? Report them for malpractice? I'm a big believer in fighting back when gross negligence or orbvious malpractice is concerned. Except that it's much harder to prove when only the human mind is involved. Either way, don't ever let anyone mistreat you like this. Stand up for yourself. You'd be amazed at how doing just this can help you feel better.
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