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Posted by sjb on March 7, 2003, at 8:48:22
Hi,
I just went to a new PDoc who's name I got out of a phone book. My husbad was not in favor of this, as previous PDocs, came recommended. However, I wasn't getting any better, so. . .
Anyway, after years of being diagnosed with major depression and/or Eating Disorder NOS, this guy says I have BPD. I don't know. I have some of the symptons on the list but don't think I act out (in anger), at least not anymore, and as for being very dependant on others, I'm practically a recluse. I did read where some BPD's isolate as a fear of abandonment, etc.
Just want to know who else has had this diagnosis and what they have found that helps. This PDoc put my on Wellbutrin and said that psychotherapy is the best route. He's a Freudian guy.
All input welcome. Thank You.
Posted by NikkiT2 on March 7, 2003, at 10:01:25
In reply to Bordeline Personality Disorder, posted by sjb on March 7, 2003, at 8:48:22
I also have BPD (though it is wonderfully called "Emotionally Unstable Personality Disorder in Europe, though is still better known as BPD in the uK!).
I don;t "act out" much either, though I still do get urges, and every now and again the stress just builds up to a head and soemthing does happen.
I ahve Zyprexa has helped a HUGE amount in controlling the bad thoughts I get.. I was suicidal 100% of the time before I tried this drug.
I am not having weekly CBT (Cognitive Behaviour Therapy) and it is working wonders on me. I am no longer quite such a bad recluse (though that is taking time), the anxiety is nearly gone (I still get a minor attack every few weeks, but I was having BIG attacks 9 times a day or more). Its also helping me understand why I feel the way I do, which in turn is meant to make the feelings much less (early days yet!).
I do work for a charity for those suffering from BPD in the UK, called BorderlineUK. Here is a link to a page on their website which has links to some really great web sites for BPD and associated things (including eating disorders). Hope you find some information that helps.
http://www.wardrobehudson.co.uk/public/html/resources/html/menu3fr.html
Nikki xx
Posted by KrissyP on March 7, 2003, at 23:21:58
In reply to Bordeline Personality Disorder, posted by sjb on March 7, 2003, at 8:48:22
Hi,
yes, it was believed by my first therapist I saw, that I had a lot of symptoms of BPD. What I read kind of scared me. I didn't have a lot of the symptoms but I did have some. I do believe that pyschotherapy shows to have great success in those who suffer BPD-even just some symptoms. BPD is a very complex disorder, but with time, I, personally, have gotten a lot better and it was all due to therapy.
Hope this helps,Keep me posted please?
Good luck :-)
Kristen***PS There is a great book:"THE ANGRY HEART-Overcoming Borderline and Addictive Disorders"
It is wonderful IMO
All the best!
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Hi,
Anyway, after years of being diagnosed with major depression and/or Eating Disorder NOS, this guy says I have BPD. I don't know. I have some of the symptons on the list but don't think I act out (in anger), at least not anymore, and as for being very dependant on others, I'm practically a recluse. I did read where some BPD's isolate as a fear of abandonment, etc.
Just want to know who else has had this diagnosis and what they have found that helps. This PDoc put my on Wellbutrin and said that psychotherapy is the best route. He's a Freudian guy.
All input welcome. Thank You.
Posted by KrissyP on March 7, 2003, at 23:25:33
In reply to Re: Bordeline Personality Disorder » sjb, posted by NikkiT2 on March 7, 2003, at 10:01:25
Hi :-)
yep I was diagnosed with a little BPD tendencies in 1996. I hear you-exactly>>>Therapy helped me understand why I feel the way I do, CBT was AWESOME to help me do this.
Is Zyprexa the only med you are on?
All the best to you! Hope to hear back.
KristenI also have BPD (though it is wonderfully called "Emotionally Unstable Personality Disorder in Europe, though is still better known as BPD in the uK!).
>
> I don;t "act out" much either, though I still do get urges, and every now and again the stress just builds up to a head and soemthing does happen.
>
> I ahve Zyprexa has helped a HUGE amount in controlling the bad thoughts I get.. I was suicidal 100% of the time before I tried this drug.
>
> I am not having weekly CBT (Cognitive Behaviour Therapy) and it is working wonders on me. I am no longer quite such a bad recluse (though that is taking time), the anxiety is nearly gone (I still get a minor attack every few weeks, but I was having BIG attacks 9 times a day or more). Its also helping me understand why I feel the way I do, which in turn is meant to make the feelings much less (early days yet!).
>
> I do work for a charity for those suffering from BPD in the UK, called BorderlineUK. Here is a link to a page on their website which has links to some really great web sites for BPD and associated things (including eating disorders). Hope you find some information that helps.
>
> http://www.wardrobehudson.co.uk/public/html/resources/html/menu3fr.html
>
> Nikki xx
Posted by NikkiT2 on March 8, 2003, at 6:58:13
In reply to Re: Bordeline Personality Disorder » NikkiT2, posted by KrissyP on March 7, 2003, at 23:25:33
I've been on so many meds.. Effexor did help quite a bit, but then stupid pdoc took me off it... withdrawal was horendous, and then it never seemed to work quite the same again...
I've just been put on Remeron.. been on it a week now and it does seem to have lifted the very black mood I was in the past few weeks..
But Zyprexa has been my personal wonder drug :o)
Nikki x
Posted by noa on March 8, 2003, at 11:07:41
In reply to Re: Bordeline Personality Disorder » sjb, posted by KrissyP on March 7, 2003, at 23:21:58
SJB,
I think BPD is quite unspecific. It describes a pattern of functioning over a long period of time, usually implying that problems are at least in part caused by early experiences, but doesn't really help specify to what degree a person would have problems with different symptoms that fall under the dx.
In any event, when deciding on medications, it is the specific symptoms, and not a catch-all dx like BPD, that will determine which meds could help. This is true even of dxes that are more specific than BPD (major depression can look differnt in different people, for example).
Nowadays, the BPD dx is somewhat controversial. Some researchers (Akiskal for one) seem to think that BPD is used to describe women who have hard to diagnose rapid cycling forms of depression-hypomania. Some think it is a mix of anxiety/panic and depression.
I think BPD is useful only as long as it's useful (same is true for any diagnosis, actually). I know that this statement sounds like circular logic, but it isn't. If thinking of your combo of symptoms and personal problems as BPD helps you to understand how you developed some coping patterns that are not healthy, so you can begin to figure out how to change them, then it is useful. But to determine medications, I don't see it is very useful. And I am wary of how it is used by some therapists/pdocs, ie, those that hold to closely too the traditional (psychoanalytic) thinking about this dx, without looking at other aspects of it, including the possibility that specific symptoms are biological and can be treated with meds.
Posted by viridis on March 9, 2003, at 2:37:30
In reply to Re: Bordeline Personality Disorder, posted by noa on March 8, 2003, at 11:07:41
My (vague) understanding of BPD is that it's a "personality disorder", somehow distinct from psychiatric disorders that can be more easily treated with medication. It seems that BPD implies some learned pattern of behavior that's hard to break, probably superimposed on a more "standard" psychiatric disorder.
I do have two friends who have been diagnosed with BPD, and they definitely have complex problems. My suspicion, though, is that BPD is a lot like some bipolar 2 diagnoses -- a place to put people who don't respond to the usual meds, but might be fine with the right treatment or combination.
Of course, this is just a guess -- I have no qualification to diagnose these things.
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 11, 2003, at 0:21:53
In reply to Re: Bordeline Personality Disorder » sjb, posted by KrissyP on March 7, 2003, at 23:21:58
> There is a great book:"THE ANGRY HEART-Overcoming Borderline and Addictive Disorders"
I'd just like to plug the double double quotes feature:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#amazon
But I don't mean to be pushy. Did you deliberately not use it to link to Amazon? If so, I'd be interested in why, over at Psycho-Babble Administration:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20020918/msgs/7717.html
Thanks!
Bob
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