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Posted by jonh kimble on April 8, 2002, at 19:43:15
Hi im an 18 year old guy whos had symptoms of sp (biggest problem), cronic fatigue and a.d.d.for about four years. Ive done ALOT of research and have been to two psychologists and tried about 10 meds, all with no response, actually two made me worse. I find relief in of social inhibition with booze(who doesnt), nicotene (strange isnt it. lasts for about 1 minute then i feel worse for about 10 minutes.)and some stims, but every stim ive tried lasts for about 5 - 10 minutes then i feel worse. Parnate and dexedrine also had this effect, and i know they are like amphetamines. I currently suspect some problem with DA or NE. Anyway, im trying adrafinil as has been recomended for all these symptoms, but at three weeks, still no response. Im interested in hearing from anyone with any comments and would be happy to share anything else.
Posted by JahL on April 8, 2002, at 21:04:30
In reply to Social Phobia help please, posted by jonh kimble on April 8, 2002, at 19:43:15
> Hi im an 18 year old guy whos had symptoms of sp (biggest problem), cronic fatigue and a.d.d.for about four years. Ive done ALOT of research and have been to two psychologists and tried about 10 meds, all with no response, actually two made me worse. I find relief in of social inhibition with booze(who doesnt), nicotene (strange isnt it. lasts for about 1 minute then i feel worse for about 10 minutes.)and some stims, but every stim ive tried lasts for about 5 - 10 minutes then i feel worse. Parnate and dexedrine also had this effect, and i know they are like amphetamines. I currently suspect some problem with DA or NE. Anyway, im trying adrafinil as has been recomended for all these symptoms, but at three weeks, still no response. Im interested in hearing from anyone with any comments and would be happy to share anything else.
I've tried all the usual suspects (incl. Adrafinil) and the only drug to offer any consistent relief for me is Sulpiride (150mg), an old selective (for D2?) antipsychotic. One or two on this board have had success with its close cousin, Amisulpride. Neither are available in the US but here in the UK both are well regarded by specialists (they're not mainstream drugs), either for social phobia or more generalised anxiety (it helps me a lot w/ ruminations).
Not a cure for me but a great help nonetheless. Worthy of consideration if all else has failed. Both have shown AD properties in European trials.
Booze (specifically, binge-drinking) was my medication of choice before I chanced upon Sulpiride.
J.
Posted by jonh kimble on April 8, 2002, at 22:17:24
In reply to Re: Social Phobia » jonh kimble, posted by JahL on April 8, 2002, at 21:04:30
Thank you for your message. I have heard a fair bit about amisulpride (though not sulpride) and believe it or not amisulpride has had my greatest interest even before reading this post. I experience alot of dewlelling on negative past experiences, i guess hypersensitiveity. Is this what you mean by reminisions? Do you think it could help with fatigue and attention? I Know it acts on dopamine so i would suspect so, although like I said, I do not respond well to all the "uppers" I have tried. I also have a bit of gad and mild depression so those added effects would be beneficial. I just feel reluctant to forking over another hundred dollars(I live in Canada, money aint worth as much up here) to try something that will do nothing. I would love to here more on sulride or amisulpride. Hope I am not to demanding but this social phobia stuff is getting to me considering I have trouble talking to members of my family.
Posted by JahL on April 9, 2002, at 0:18:42
In reply to Re: Social Phobia and sulpride, posted by jonh kimble on April 8, 2002, at 22:17:24
> Thank you for your message. I have heard a fair bit about amisulpride (though not sulpride) and believe it or not amisulpride has had my greatest interest even before reading this post. I experience alot of dewlelling on negative past experiences, i guess hypersensitiveity. Is this what you mean by reminisions?
Ruminations for me are obsessive, often anxious thoughts which recycle over and over. Yes they could dwell upon unhappy past experiences or things that are currently p*ssing me off or worrying me.
>Do you think it could help with fatigue and attention?
As far as energy goes the effect is pretty neutral for me although higher doses cause sedation (Sulp. is sometimes used for this purpose). My attn is improved slightly purely b/c my mind is not distracted so much by obsessive & socially phobic thoughts.
> I also have a bit of gad and mild depression so those added effects would be beneficial.
There is a chance both conditions could be helped. If you decide to take this route I would advise you trial both Amisulpride & Sulpiride. Similar names, different drugs. I could feel Sulpiride helping almost immediately whereas Amisulpride had absolutely no effect after 10 days. BTW there has been talk here before of Amisulpride having a therapeutic window, possibly btwn 25 & 75mgs. It's in the archives.
>I just feel reluctant to forking over another hundred dollars(I live in Canada, money aint worth as much up here) to try something that will do nothing.
Both are dirt cheap; old and off patent. The bonus is that you don't needs to obtain vast quantities; 2 week trials are probably more than adequate. I had the full benefit of Sulpiride w/in 2 hours of swallowing the first pill. It is my understanding that the anxiolytic properties are experienced almost immediately (if at all), like a benzo. I don't pretend to know how the drugs work for depression though I suspect any benefit might be felt reasonably quickly. My depression is very severe (& so, consequently, is my SP, which is why Sulpiride has proved to be a life-saver) and Sulpiride doesn't begin to touch it.
Oh, no side effects 4 me.
> I have trouble talking to members of my family.
Don't we all...;-)
Rgds,
J.
Posted by JohnX2 on April 9, 2002, at 1:00:06
In reply to Re: Social Phobia and sulpride, posted by jonh kimble on April 8, 2002, at 22:17:24
> Thank you for your message. I have heard a fair bit about amisulpride (though not sulpride) and believe it or not amisulpride has had my greatest interest even before reading this post. I experience alot of dewlelling on negative past experiences, i guess hypersensitiveity. Is this what you mean by reminisions?
May I ask a question? Was there a period in your life before your health declined that was plagued by overwhelmingly stressfull/uncontrollable situations? Also, if so, do you have nightmares/flashbacks to these sort of experiences?
Or, did this depression/CFS sort of come onto its own?
The reason I may ask is because the pharmacological treatment for the former and biological affects of such a scenario may help explain the erratic AD responses.
Regards,
John
Posted by jonh kimble on April 9, 2002, at 15:39:53
In reply to Re: Social Phobia and sulpride » jonh kimble, posted by JohnX2 on April 9, 2002, at 1:00:06
>
> May I ask a question? Was there a period in your life before your health declined that was plagued by overwhelmingly stressfull/uncontrollable situations?Well, the social anxiety started to bug me in grade 9(four years ago) I remember fighting desparetly to keep friends and that kind of thing. I cant say ive ever had a horrible single event like someone close who died or anything like that. Is this what you mean? My sp really just started and i cant really remember anything setting it off. I have to say it strikes as being biological, as almost everyone in my family exhibits strong symptoms of sp. Although, i suppose i could be learned behavior.
>Also, if so, do you have nightmares/flashbacks to these sort of experiences?I get flashbacks of certain events happining throughout my life, but they are usually recent social upsets.
>
> Or, did this depression/CFS sort of come onto its own?I think so.
> The reason I may ask is because the pharmacological treatment for the former and biological affects of such a scenario may help explain the erratic AD responses.
My social anxiety seems different from others in some ways. Im actually not all that anxious but spontanious chatting knocks me off my feet. Believe it or not, giving something like a speech to a relitively large croud is not all that hard for me. I know that i have good information planned out so im not worried. Its being talkative and spontainious, even with the closest people in my life, that throws me off and i dont have a single person i feel comfortable talking to.
Thanks for your help
Posted by JohnX2 on April 9, 2002, at 16:18:53
In reply to Re: Social Phobia and sulpride, posted by jonh kimble on April 9, 2002, at 15:39:53
Hi,Thanks for your answers.
>
> >
> > May I ask a question? Was there a period in your life before your health declined that was plagued by overwhelmingly stressfull/uncontrollable situations?
>
> Well, the social anxiety started to bug me in grade 9(four years ago) I remember fighting desparetly to keep friends and that kind of thing. I cant say ive ever had a horrible single event like someone close who died or anything like that. Is this what you mean? My sp really just started and i cant really remember anything setting it off. I have to say it strikes as being biological, as almost everyone in my family exhibits strong symptoms of sp. Although, i suppose i could be learned behavior.
>
> >Also, if so, do you have nightmares/flashbacks to these sort of experiences?
>
> I get flashbacks of certain events happining throughout my life, but they are usually recent social upsets.
>
> >
> > Or, did this depression/CFS sort of come onto its own?
>
> I think so.
>
> > The reason I may ask is because the pharmacological treatment for the former and biological affects of such a scenario may help explain the erratic AD responses.
>
> My social anxiety seems different from others in some ways. Im actually not all that anxious but spontanious chatting knocks me off my feet. Believe it or not, giving something like a speech to a relitively large croud is not all that hard for me. I know that i have good information planned out so im not worried. Its being talkative and spontainious, even with the closest people in my life, that throws me off and i dont have a single person i feel comfortable talking to.
>I've seen this with some people I work with. This one fellow who is a director at my company is just amazing at doing public speeking, but draws blanks one-on-one.
Do you feel any "adrenaline" type rush you get public speeking perks you up to the task?
Also, when you are with people one-on-one, does your mind just sorta "draw a blank"?
I have this thing where I can "talk-the-talk" like know ones business if I am in a novel or pressured situation like an interview or giving a speech, but sometimes when I am with just 1 or 2 people, my mind goes blank (I suck at small talk and chit-chat). Other people have told me this is an ADD symptom, believe it or not (stimulants helped it but make me manic).
You may want to investigate alternative medicine add-ons like membrane stabilizers (Lamictal, etc). Sometimes these medicines can help to adjust the brain chemistry so that it can operate more fluidly in the presence of an AD.
I know a person on this board with CFS, but she is bipolar (a trademark for bipolar is irratic AD response, poop-out, more depression), and she struggled with many ADs until augmenting with Lamictal. Is there any history of bipolar in your family?
Just some thoughts.
John
> Thanks for your help
Posted by jonh kimble on April 9, 2002, at 22:50:46
In reply to Re: Social Phobia and sulpride » jonh kimble, posted by JohnX2 on April 9, 2002, at 16:18:53
Thanx for the info. I dont know what lamitical is but would like to know more. There is certainly bi polar in my family. My uncle is obviously bi polar and i would guess several others but i had about three relatives commit suicide before i was born( i guess thats my answer right there.) Im very nterested in amisulpride or sulpride. Has anyone else benefitted from these when other meds didnt? Has it helped anyone with chronic fatigue? How does it make you feel as far as social anxiety goes? I know for me after having even one beer i am signifigantly energized and much more social. I understand such effects can be attributed to increase in dopamine levels. Could amisulpride possibly have this effect? Finally, where can i order it from, and do i need a prescription. I hope not since i dont know any doctors right now.
Also, any point in staying on adrafinil? At 600mgs for three weeks ive had no effect, although nothing bad either.
Thanx
Posted by JohnX2 on April 10, 2002, at 13:32:43
In reply to Re: Social Phobia and sulpride, posted by jonh kimble on April 9, 2002, at 22:50:46
> Thanx for the info. I dont know what lamitical is but would like to know more. There is certainly bi polar in my family. My uncle is obviously bi polar and i would guess several others but i had about three relatives commit suicide before i was born( i guess thats my answer right there.) Im very nterested in amisulpride or sulpride. Has anyone else benefitted from these when other meds didnt? Has it helped anyone with chronic fatigue? How does it make you feel as far as social anxiety goes? I know for me after having even one beer i am signifigantly energized and much more social. I understand such effects can be attributed to increase in dopamine levels. Could amisulpride possibly have this effect? Finally, where can i order it from, and do i need a prescription. I hope not since i dont know any doctors right now.
>
> Also, any point in staying on adrafinil? At 600mgs for three weeks ive had no effect, although nothing bad either.
>
> Thanx
A quick reply. Lamictal is an anticonvulsant medication (antiseizure) that is FDA approved for epilepsy. Besides Lithium most medications that are used to treat bipolar disorder are usually FDA approved for epilepsy. Other examples are Depakote. Basically, if you have some form of bipolar disorder, and there are forms which are more subtle (like soft bipolar or Bipolar II), then you will generally not do well on a stand alone anti-depressant. Many people with some form of bipolar who take an AD without some form of an anticonvulsant or lithium may actually feel worse on the AD, or become manic, or cycle (have wild mood swings). One of the symptoms of bipolar can be a feeling of persistent agitation (nervous energy), which may explain anxiety symptoms.Typically to treat bipolar, one would start with a base mood stabilizer like Depakote, lithium, or Lamictal. Depakote and lithium for many has a calming effect as it removes the agitation. Then you may add to this an antidepressant. The stabilizer medication will just adjust your brain chemistry so that the AD acts appropriately.
John
Posted by JohnX2 on April 10, 2002, at 13:45:31
In reply to Re: Social Phobia and sulpride » jonh kimble, posted by JohnX2 on April 10, 2002, at 13:32:43
> > Thanx for the info. I dont know what lamitical is but would like to know more. There is certainly bi polar in my family. My uncle is obviously bi polar and i would guess several others but i had about three relatives commit suicide before i was born( i guess thats my answer right there.) Im very nterested in amisulpride or sulpride. Has anyone else benefitted from these when other meds didnt? Has it helped anyone with chronic fatigue? How does it make you feel as far as social anxiety goes? I know for me after having even one beer i am signifigantly energized and much more social. I understand such effects can be attributed to increase in dopamine levels. Could amisulpride possibly have this effect? Finally, where can i order it from, and do i need a prescription. I hope not since i dont know any doctors right now.
> >
> > Also, any point in staying on adrafinil? At 600mgs for three weeks ive had no effect, although nothing bad either.
> >
> > Thanx
>
>
> A quick reply. Lamictal is an anticonvulsant medication (antiseizure) that is FDA approved for epilepsy. Besides Lithium most medications that are used to treat bipolar disorder are usually FDA approved for epilepsy. Other examples are Depakote. Basically, if you have some form of bipolar disorder, and there are forms which are more subtle (like soft bipolar or Bipolar II), then you will generally not do well on a stand alone anti-depressant. Many people with some form of bipolar who take an AD without some form of an anticonvulsant or lithium may actually feel worse on the AD, or become manic, or cycle (have wild mood swings). One of the symptoms of bipolar can be a feeling of persistent agitation (nervous energy), which may explain anxiety symptoms.
>
> Typically to treat bipolar, one would start with a base mood stabilizer like Depakote, lithium, or Lamictal. Depakote and lithium for many has a calming effect as it removes the agitation. Then you may add to this an antidepressant. The stabilizer medication will just adjust your brain chemistry so that the AD acts appropriately.
>
> JohnThere are a lot of threads floating around (look above) about Lamictal. Lamictal of the mood stabilizers, also has decent antidepressant properties.
Based on your family history, and the fact that you tried various classes of ADs with the noted responses, it seems plausible that you may have some form of bipolar disoder. I would recommend looking into augmenting your medication with a stabilizer. Lamictal is good because it can also treat unipolar depression (regular depression, not bipolar). Plus it has a benign side effect profile for many.
Take Care,
John
Posted by JohnX2 on April 10, 2002, at 14:06:34
In reply to Social Phobia help please, posted by jonh kimble on April 8, 2002, at 19:43:15
> Hi im an 18 year old guy whos had symptoms of sp (biggest problem), cronic fatigue and a.d.d.for about four years. Ive done ALOT of research and have been to two psychologists and tried about 10 meds, all with no response, actually two made me worse. I find relief in of social inhibition with booze(who doesnt), nicotene (strange isnt it. lasts for about 1 minute then i feel worse for about 10 minutes.)and some stims, but every stim ive tried lasts for about 5 - 10 minutes then i feel worse. Parnate and dexedrine also had this effect, and i know they are like amphetamines. I currently suspect some problem with DA or NE. Anyway, im trying adrafinil as has been recomended for all these symptoms, but at three weeks, still no response. Im interested in hearing from anyone with any comments and would be happy to share anything else.
johnh,
You mentioned you picked up ADD and CFS symptoms as well as the social phobia.
Can you describe the ADD symptoms?
- have trouble sitting still, etc?
Also, what are the CFS symptoms?
Is the depression somthing like:
- over sleep
- feel like crap in the morning, better at night
- maybe overeat
- general feeling of sad
- strong feeling of rejection
- feelings of heaviness in limbsPeople with bipolar II disorder (more subtle form of bipolar) VERY common have comorbid ADD like symptoms and also what is called "atypical depression" symptoms (above).
John
Posted by JahL on April 10, 2002, at 16:10:35
In reply to Re: Social Phobia and sulpride, posted by JohnX2 on April 10, 2002, at 13:45:31
> There are a lot of threads floating around (look above) about Lamictal. Lamictal of the mood stabilizers, also has decent antidepressant properties.
>
> Based on your family history, and the fact that you tried various classes of ADs with the noted responses, it seems plausible that you may have some form of bipolar disoder. I would recommend looking into augmenting your medication with a stabilizer. Lamictal is good because it can also treat unipolar depression (regular depression, not bipolar). Plus it has a benign side effect profile for many.Yeah. I should point out that I'm also Bipolar II (often comorbid w/ s. phobia) and Lamictal is my primary mood stabilizer. The Lamictal doesn't actually help the s. phobia tho'.
J.
Posted by jonh kimble on April 10, 2002, at 21:31:20
In reply to Re: ADD/CFS symptoms bipolar 2? » jonh kimble, posted by JohnX2 on April 10, 2002, at 14:06:34
> johnh,
>
> You mentioned you picked up ADD and CFS symptoms as well as the social phobia.
>
> Can you describe the ADD symptoms?
>
> - have trouble sitting still, etc?Well I suppose my I a bit restless at times but I feel quite the opposite from typical bouncing off the walls add. Im tired and dont feel like doing anything. The description of limbic add describes me to a key
> Also, what are the CFS symptoms?Just low energy, sleepy, and I always get enough sleep. Dont feel like talking or going out with friends or really doing anything.
> Is the depression somthing like:
> - over sleep
Yup
> - feel like crap in the morning, better at night
Exactly, impossible to get up in the morning. Dont feel very tired at night, and often have insomnia.
> - maybe overeat
just the opposite. I have NO appetite
> - general feeling of sad
ya, like i feel i have the potential to do so much but im not at all, i feel kinda hopeless at times, though i know im not severly depressed
> - strong feeling of rejection
ya, possibly the biggest one. i worry very much if i feel like someone didnt like me or something i did in some way. Experience this all the time.
> - feelings of heaviness in limbs
come to think of it i suppose so> People with bipolar II disorder (more subtle form of bipolar) VERY common have comorbid ADD like symptoms and also what is called "atypical depression" symptoms (above).
Well, this sounds very interesting but one thing I have to point out now is that i NEVER have any mood swings. In fact my mood is moderatly low all the time, just like the descriptions above. I know how bi polar people feel very energized at times but i never have this. I am still very much interested in this theory and would greatly aprreciate any more feedback. I would still like to know more about the sulpride's if any one has the time, and where is the best place to order them from.
Jonh Kimble
Posted by jonh kimble on April 10, 2002, at 22:18:01
In reply to Re: Social Phobia and sulpride, posted by JahL on April 10, 2002, at 16:10:35
> Yeah. I should point out that I'm also Bipolar II (often comorbid w/ s. phobia) and Lamictal is my primary mood stabilizer. The Lamictal doesn't actually help the s. phobia tho'.
Hey JahL, didnt know you had bi polar, hope your feeling better on whatever u r taking. If u read my above post i said that i never experience mood swings, which makes me somewhat doubtful about the possiblilty of bi polar, although the description of anhedonia was quite accurate. I always lack drive and motivation, and these are sometimes characteristics of dysthymia. I heard that amisulpride can be quite effective for dysthymia. Any further thoughts on this?Jonh Kimble
Posted by JahL on April 10, 2002, at 22:47:57
In reply to Re: Social Phobia and sulpride, posted by jonh kimble on April 10, 2002, at 22:18:01
>
> > Yeah. I should point out that I'm also Bipolar II (often comorbid w/ s. phobia) and Lamictal is my primary mood stabilizer. The Lamictal doesn't actually help the s. phobia tho'.
>
>
> Hey JahL, didnt know you had bi polar, hope your feeling better on whatever u r taking.Hi Jonh. Not really :-(. Better than I would be tho'. I'm v. treatment resistant.
> If u read my above post i said that i never experience mood swings.
I never have mood swings either. Just unremitting depression characterised by anhedonia especially; apathy, powerful suicidal & homocidal thoughts, chronic insomnia, anxiety, agitation, ADD-like symptoms....the usual stuff. Lots of soft Bipolarity in my family too. Before the BP really kicked in I was considered dysthymic.
>thoughts which makes me somewhat doubtful about the possiblilty of bi polar, although the description of anhedonia was quite accurate. I always lack drive and motivation, and these are sometimes characteristics of dysthymia.
Soft Bipolar can be a hard one to diagnose; it took 4 years to persaude psychiatrists that I was BP. What proved I was on the soft BP spectrum was my dramatic responses to SSRIs. On the first one I woke up one day 'cured' and then started cycling btwn never-before-experienced euthymia & dysphoria. Lamictal made me hypomanic, another possible BP indicator.
I have no idea whether you're Bipolar or not but trying a mood stabilizer wouldn't hurt if you've failed a lot of other meds. I (scan) read a rpt the other day that suggested 'Bipolars' respond more favourably depression-wise than 'Unipolars' to Lamictal. Maybe this is a possible marker. Dunno.
Of course I can't tell you how or where to get Sulpiride but as an online pharmacy veteran I can tell you that it's pretty hard (but not impossible) to find. Not a big seller I suppose.
Best,
J.
Posted by pedr on April 11, 2002, at 7:36:04
In reply to Social Phobia help please, posted by jonh kimble on April 8, 2002, at 19:43:15
Hi John,
sorry to hear you're having such a rough time of things. I have suffered from pretty bad SP [alongside unipolar depression], to the level where I avoid going out socially and only went out when I had to. I tried Effexor, Lustral, Sertraline, Reboxetine and Surmontil and none helped with the SP.A few months ago I started Buproprion alongside the reboxetine. For well over 6 weeks my SP was unchanged but lately [9 weeks since starting Buproprion] it has diminished to the level where I am beginning to enjoy being out and about. This struck me as odd, considering Bup's activating qualities.
If you haven't tried Bup, it might be worth a shot.
HTH,
pete.
Posted by Ponder on April 13, 2002, at 17:41:31
In reply to Re: Social Phobia and sulpride, posted by jonh kimble on April 9, 2002, at 15:39:53
>>My social anxiety seems different from others in some ways. Im actually not all that anxious but spontanious chatting knocks me off my feet. Believe it or not, giving something like a speech to a relitively large croud is not all that hard for me. I know that i have good information planned out so im not worried. Its being talkative and spontainious, even with the closest people in my life, that throws me off and i dont have a single person i feel comfortable talking to.<<
This really caught my attention. I have been very successful in my career with public speaking, running meetings, facilitating group discussions, etc., but I am terrified at the social receptions after the meetings or any unstructured social situation. This has always puzzled me, since for most people the opposite is true. Seems like things that others consider "fun" are anxiety-provoking for me. My dx is Bipolar II. I take Lamictal, Wellbutrin, and Ativan.
Posted by jonh kimble on April 14, 2002, at 22:00:56
In reply to Public Speaking vs. Social Mixing » jonh kimble, posted by Ponder on April 13, 2002, at 17:41:31
Thank you everyone for your posts. Thanks for the advice, and I heard some very interesting and similar situations when compared to myself. yes i have tried wellbutrin but never for nine weeks. very glad it worked for you. i was especially interested by the last post which said that others experience difficulty in social mixing but not in things like public speeking, such as myself. does any one think this could possibly be due to a different chemical abnormality? especialy considering even benzos and nardil have not worked for me. any one else have this?
I was reading a very stiking article on a site called bio psychiatry, which i find to be reliable and non biased. it was regarding dysthymia. This article stated that people with dysthymia often have social anxiety and chronic fatigue along with it. it also said that bi polar is often present in the family and that dythymia can be quite treatment resistent. These all aply to me. it talked about amisulpride as a new treatment for these symptoms. i would love to hear anything from others with this sort of problem, especially specifics, even strange things. i find that dopamine activating drugs cause many positive changes in me besides mood lift and increased self confidence and energy. i also find things like im not nearly as picky about food and my dirve to solve problems is so much better. i dont give up so easily. any one with similarities here? would love to hear anyhting. oh ya, and anybody know where i could order sulpride and amisulpride out just for a trial without a presciption? Im very stuck here. Thanx
jon kimble
Posted by norm on October 7, 2003, at 19:22:44
In reply to Re: ADD/CFS symptoms bipolar 2?, posted by jonh kimble on April 10, 2002, at 21:31:20
I have a question. Recently I was diagnosed with Bi-Polar 2. My doctor does not believe adults can have A.D.D, and so I was diagnosed with Bi-Polar 2. My question is, is it possoble to have BP2 and A.D.D. at the same time? I have very little concentration and patience in my daily life. I feel like I am not good enough. I'm an artist and musician and cannot make myself complete any work. My memory and focus is non-existant. I'm always tired and prefer to sleep alot. Very inattentive and emotional. Constantly depressed, closing windows and curtains. Every little noise sets me off and I go into a rage. Deep down, I believe I have both. What is your take on this, and what my doctor suggested to me.
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