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Posted by Zo on March 6, 2002, at 0:00:11
In reply to Re: ::brain does flips::, posted by deeanne on March 4, 2002, at 14:35:39
Seems like I post this a lot, but people don't know, those flip-flops are mini---or not so mini--seizures. Nothing to be overly concerned about unless they bother you or happen regularly.
Best,
Zo
Posted by Automated Lady on March 6, 2002, at 6:45:09
In reply to Re: ::brain does flips:: » deeanne, posted by Zo on March 6, 2002, at 0:00:11
Actually, I AM concerned. I was taking efexor for two months and it was turning me into a zombie, so I stopped it. I have a stupid doctor who told me just to stop - no tail-off or anything. About 24 hours after I stopped my head started doing those weird "shock" things and two days later it was happening approximately every few minutes. It would get particularly bad if I was feeling anxious and would seem to settle down as I fell asleep.
It is now happening much less (five days later) but I'm actually really worried about the damage they might have done to my brain if they are mini-seizures. Why do they happen? I went to see the doctor about them yesterday because I was so worried. I'm at university and they don't let you have an emergency appointment without seeing a nurse first. I saw her and she said she thought it was just an anxiety thing and sent me away.
Posted by Zo on March 7, 2002, at 1:50:28
In reply to Re: ::brain does flips:: » Zo, posted by Automated Lady on March 6, 2002, at 6:45:09
ESPECIALLY if they just quit an AD cold turkey! I had a turkey of a doctor do that to me once--once is enough.
Really, I wouldn't worry if it's not an ongoing thing with you. . .and no, mini-seizures aren't particularly destructive. Think of them as the electricity going a little static-y from the sudden change.
And you think getting depression dxed correctly is tough. . .don't even THINK about neuroligists.
Zo
Posted by sue doe on March 7, 2002, at 7:10:42
In reply to Re: ::brain does flips:: » Zo, posted by Automated Lady on March 6, 2002, at 6:45:09
I'm at university and they don't let you have an emergency appointment without seeing a nurse first. I saw her and she said she thought it was just an anxiety thing and sent me away.
University Nurse! To make decisions on mental illnesses! That's INSANE!!
We better put all of our brains in padded baskets and hide them away!!
On the real side. There must be a connection between bi-polar syndrome and epilepsy. Afterall, they are both treated with the same drug (depakote, valproic acid.)
As for me, I'm tired of assuming any competance on the side of medical "professionals". Just let them reside in our brains for 20 minutes and see if they survive!!
It's tough going off my meds. But I guess it's no tougher than trusting a university nurse to recognize the significance of our brain storms.
I can see this (day five, drug free) is going to be a tough one. But I have learned to observe my behaviors better. I can see when I'm "swinging," (mood swings that is) And I think i'll just go with the flow. Please excuse me all you babblers and let me babble. I need to get through this journey! With psycho-babble I'm never alone!
Sue Doe (Nym)
Posted by sue doe on March 7, 2002, at 7:12:12
In reply to Flippant brain? Who needs nerves anyway? » Automated Lady, posted by sue doe on March 7, 2002, at 7:10:42
forgot to x the "notify of later follow-ups" button. Sorry.
Day 5.
Posted by NikkiT2 on March 7, 2002, at 9:20:31
In reply to Re: ::brain does flips:: » deeanne, posted by Zo on March 6, 2002, at 0:00:11
I asked my doc about this, and he said ti was rubbish.. its all just chemicals re-adjusting...
I didn;t cold turkey, and I still had these symptoms...
Posted by deeanne on March 7, 2002, at 15:08:40
In reply to Re: ::brain does flips:: » deeanne, posted by Zo on March 6, 2002, at 0:00:11
Seizures? Like a stroke, maybe? Hmm...I DO have migraines, matter of fact I had one yesterday. I want to think this is all related...i have had such severe migraine before that they called it "migraine stroke"...couldn't walk, left side of body wouldn't function, etc. I do have the aura with the migraines, temporary blindness, etc.
> Seems like I post this a lot, but people don't know, those flip-flops are mini---or not so mini--seizures. Nothing to be overly concerned about unless they bother you or happen regularly.
>
> Best,
> Zo
Posted by Zo on March 8, 2002, at 1:33:36
In reply to Re: ::brain does flips:: » Zo, posted by NikkiT2 on March 7, 2002, at 9:20:31
And did you like it when your doctor said that?
I don't.
Zo
Posted by NikkiT2 on March 8, 2002, at 8:30:08
In reply to Re: ::brain does flips:: » NikkiT2, posted by Zo on March 8, 2002, at 1:33:36
What do you mean did I like it?? I felt he wa stelling me the truth, he is always very open and honest with me.
Nikki
Posted by Automated Lady on March 10, 2002, at 17:27:55
In reply to Re: anybody can have seizures » Automated Lady, posted by Zo on March 7, 2002, at 1:50:28
Hi - just found this on the board.. thanks for your reassurance! The "shock" things have totally stopped now.. and it's making a good story to tell to all the people I know who've never gone through the experience of being a guinea pig for the drug companies. Now trying Celexa.. let's see what happens..
AL x
Posted by Jan on March 12, 2002, at 15:17:21
In reply to Re: ::brain does flips:: » Zo, posted by Automated Lady on March 6, 2002, at 6:45:09
I'm off Effexor for three days and on Prozac for two. I feel awful. Brain zaps, chest pain, nausea, cry cry cry, headache. Would somebody please reply to this and let me know there's an end to it?
Posted by E. Anne on March 13, 2002, at 10:29:10
In reply to Re: side effects of celexa, posted by David K. on January 14, 1999, at 5:03:24
Hi- I am a 44 year old female and I was just started on Celexa 10 days ago. I am now 7 days late for my period and I have taken 2 pregnancies tests- both negative. I understand that there may be menstrual changes but has anyone experienced any? It is very hard to find any info on this and I am frustrated. I have also gained 5 pounds just since I started the medication. I am on 20mg in the am. Thanks to anyone who has any thoughts on this.
Posted by Bill L on March 14, 2002, at 9:02:38
In reply to Re: side effects of celexa, posted by E. Anne on March 13, 2002, at 10:29:10
I don't think that menstrual changes are a common major side effect of Celexa or the other antidepressants. Maybe it can have an inital effect in some people but it probably would not be a long term problem. It's rare to see someone post about a menstrual problem with Celexa.
As for the weight gain, give it some more time. Celexa can cause a weight gain but in most people it does not. My guess is that this side effect should also subside after you take it longer.
Posted by Sue Doe on March 14, 2002, at 9:10:14
In reply to Re: side effects of celexa, posted by E. Anne on March 13, 2002, at 10:29:10
> I understand that there may be menstrual changes but has anyone experienced any?
I know, as a mother of nine who had a hysterectomy at age 40, that our cycles can, indeed be influenced by other bodily changes.
I wonder whether, since you have been on Celexa for such a short time, that the reason you went on Celexa may have also been influential on your female cycle.
Menopause sometimes begins, i understand, with irregular and unusual periods. I know, from the other side, that extreme stress caused one of my daughters to bleed quite profusely, this corrected itself when we removed her from the source of the stress.
I hope maybe this is worth the letters taken to write it!
sincerely, and good luck!
Sue Doe (Nym)
Posted by Ashyton on March 14, 2002, at 19:39:00
In reply to Re: menopause? or side effect? » E. Anne, posted by Sue Doe on March 14, 2002, at 9:10:14
> > I understand that there may be menstrual changes but has anyone experienced any?
>
> I know, as a mother of nine who had a hysterectomy at age 40, that our cycles can, indeed be influenced by other bodily changes.
> I wonder whether, since you have been on Celexa for such a short time, that the reason you went on Celexa may have also been influential on your female cycle.
> Menopause sometimes begins, i understand, with irregular and unusual periods. I know, from the other side, that extreme stress caused one of my daughters to bleed quite profusely, this corrected itself when we removed her from the source of the stress.
> I hope maybe this is worth the letters taken to write it!
> sincerely, and good luck!
> Sue Doe (Nym)Sue Doe I don't have any answers for you,but it had me wonder too, about my upcoming period with taking Paxil 10 mgs for one week then this week 20 mgs...will I be late??Heavy?Will I have it not at all??Will i have it shorter or longer...if anyone knows or remember what there first month or two on it that would be helpful..thanks....
Posted by Bekka H. on March 14, 2002, at 20:36:11
In reply to Re: side effects of celexa, posted by E. Anne on March 13, 2002, at 10:29:10
> Hi- I am a 44 year old female and I was just started on Celexa 10 days ago. I am now 7 days late for my period and I have taken 2 pregnancies tests- both negative. I understand that there may be menstrual changes but has anyone experienced any? It is very hard to find any info on this and I am frustrated. I have also gained 5 pounds just since I started the medication. I am on 20mg in the am. Thanks to anyone who has any thoughts on this.
************************************************Hi E. Anne,
Yes, Celexa has wreaked havoc with my menstrual cycle. My PMS is worse, although SSRIs are supposed to help PMS. The irritability and tension are lessened with Celexa, but the fatigue and depression are MUCH WORSE! Celexa also causes my PMS to last longer, my periods are later and several other problems. I'm sure it's the Celexa and not something else because I've stopped and started Celexa several times over the past couple of years, and each time I go off it, my cycle goes back to "normal" (a relative term!). When I go back on Celexa, the problems I described above resume. Woe is me!!! I think the interplay between hormones and neurotransmitters is a lot more complex than even the researchers understand.
Posted by Sue Doe Nym on March 14, 2002, at 20:40:54
In reply to Re: side effects of celexa, posted by Bekka H. on March 14, 2002, at 20:36:11
Posted by spiroll on March 16, 2002, at 20:08:02
In reply to Re: side effects of celexa, posted by Bill L on March 14, 2002, at 9:02:38
HA-I gained 30 pounds in two months ... my panic doc said we'd try to switch off of Paxil due to the weight gain (a total of 40 pounds!) so I went to Celexa and wham! Another 30. Celexa is well known for weight gain. My depression is still bad and my anxiety is still bad. Feeling kind of hopeless and running out of different meds to try that won't add weight (thus more depression). Thank God for Xanax.
> As for the weight gain, give it some more time. Celexa can cause a weight gain but in most people it does not. My guess is that this side effect should also subside after you take it longer.
Posted by Ashyton on March 17, 2002, at 18:28:07
In reply to Re: side effects of celexa, posted by spiroll on March 16, 2002, at 20:08:02
> HA-I gained 30 pounds in two months ... my panic doc said we'd try to switch off of Paxil due to the weight gain (a total of 40 pounds!) so I went to Celexa and wham! Another 30. Celexa is well known for weight gain. My depression is still bad and my anxiety is still bad. Feeling kind of hopeless and running out of different meds to try that won't add weight (thus more depression). Thank God for Xanax.
>
>
> > As for the weight gain, give it some more time. Celexa can cause a weight gain but in most people it does not. My guess is that this side effect should also subside after you take it longer.i have lost weight still,but feel like some of the effects are wearing off...the quietness,i became argumentive for the first time in two weeks,sleeping is going wel,in fact i sleep alot moe and better....
Posted by E. Anne on March 18, 2002, at 12:06:06
In reply to Re: side effects of celexa, posted by Ashyton on March 17, 2002, at 18:28:07
Ashyton- Have you ever tried Wellbutrin? Finding the right medication is a long struggle but don't give up hope. There is something out there for all of us that may need it. I am still searching but will likely go back on a higher dose of the wellbutrin.> >
> >
> > > As for the weight gain, give it some more time. Celexa can cause a weight gain but in most people it does not. My guess is that this side effect should also subside after you take it longer.
>
> i have lost weight still,but feel like some of the effects are wearing off...the quietness,i became argumentive for the first time in two weeks,sleeping is going wel,in fact i sleep alot moe and better....
Posted by Merritt on March 20, 2002, at 5:25:34
In reply to Re: side effects of celexa, posted by Bill L on March 14, 2002, at 9:02:38
I have been on Celexa for a year. I take it with Wellbutrin. I have never felt so normal or so good. I have gained 10 lbs in a year, but I have changed jobs, have not been working out, and I am in my 40's. Taking Wellbutrin with Celexa seems to be a charm for lots of people. The combination seems to help with sleep problems and balance each other. (Wellbutrin can cut your appetite, or at least a lot of people say they lose weight when they take it.) I took it alone for about a year and a half, and had no weight gain. By the way, I have joined a gym and gotten some guidance...I work out with free weights and a few machines. I also am walking a lot. If I am heavier, I am going to be firmer! Merritt
Posted by maribeth on March 22, 2002, at 14:23:13
In reply to Re: side effects of celexa, posted by Merritt on March 20, 2002, at 5:25:34
> I have been on Celexa for a year. I take it with Wellbutrin. I have never felt so normal or so good. I have gained 10 lbs in a year, but I have changed jobs, have not been working out, and I am in my 40's. Taking Wellbutrin with Celexa seems to be a charm for lots of people. The combination seems to help with sleep problems and balance each other. (Wellbutrin can cut your appetite, or at least a lot of people say they lose weight when they take it.) I took it alone for about a year and a half, and had no weight gain. By the way, I have joined a gym and gotten some guidance...I work out with free weights and a few machines. I also am walking a lot. If I am heavier, I am going to be firmer! Merritt
Meritt,
Thanks for the cheer-on Irecently got on to Celexa and off Effexor --want to begin Wellbut. !!Maribeth
Posted by Ashyton on March 22, 2002, at 18:46:57
In reply to Re: side effects of celexa, posted by maribeth on March 22, 2002, at 14:23:13
> > I have been on Celexa for a year. I take it with Wellbutrin. I have never felt so normal or so good. I have gained 10 lbs in a year, but I have changed jobs, have not been working out, and I am in my 40's. Taking Wellbutrin with Celexa seems to be a charm for lots of people. The combination seems to help with sleep problems and balance each other. (Wellbutrin can cut your appetite, or at least a lot of people say they lose weight when they take it.) I took it alone for about a year and a half, and had no weight gain. By the way, I have joined a gym and gotten some guidance...I work out with free weights and a few machines. I also am walking a lot. If I am heavier, I am going to be firmer! Merritt
>
> Meritt,
> Thanks for the cheer-on Irecently got on to Celexa and off Effexor --want to begin Wellbut. !!MaribethWe have always had white wine served and i enjoyed a glass or two in the pass but with Paxil and all I don't want to mix or is it okay to have a glass at dinner who else had this experience of mixing?>
Posted by psycho on March 22, 2002, at 22:43:10
In reply to How do you deal with Easter holiday without alchol, posted by Ashyton on March 22, 2002, at 18:46:57
Posted by JohnX2 on March 23, 2002, at 4:08:25
In reply to Re: side effects of celexa, posted by maribeth on March 22, 2002, at 14:23:13
> Meritt,
> Thanks for the cheer-on Irecently got on to Celexa and off Effexor --want to begin Wellbut. !!MaribethHey Maribeth,
When are you starting that Wellbutrin trial?
Just Wondering. ;)
Regards
John
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