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Posted by dollerbill on March 11, 2002, at 13:45:38
Hello all,this is my first time posting and i doubt i will post any more unless it be a once or twice response kinda of thing.Anyway my main reason is i notice so much negativity here and even though i know its only people being honest it has still bothered me..many times id come from a docs visit with a new prescript and look it up here only to have my stomach sink and feel like total crap after reading of users comments on it.However i have gathered much info here and advice from the posts so i tohught it only fair to post mine also in case someone might benifit from it.like all of you i have taken every single ad i can think of each one literaly making me more depressed,more anxious,and overall horrable.i tried going the "natural" route popping amino acids,vitamins and minerals and natural herbs all day long which i have to say made me feel worse than the meds.i mean those natural regimns have you taking 30 different pills a day god that is annoying and expenisve and does not work....very few people who swear by it(least from my experiance).but i havent gave up and kept researching and ive had three days in a row so far where i feel like myself and god its feels great...i am praying that it will last so i would just like to share what seems to be working for me in case anyone else might want to consider it......here goes.......
parnate.....20 mg 2x a day.seems to be working for my social anxiety and my depression.
klonopin when needed...over a year i have not exceeded 1 mg in a day.(excellent drug,excellent!!!)
aplha-stim cranial stimulation unit.....just started this i use it one hour a day with the ear clips but also add forehead stimulation too.
so there it is people,the parnate is one of the few that you hear good things about so i jumped on that.the klonopin can build tolerence,but im careful and the 1mg calms me when i need it and nothing more, no side effects,no added depression and no drowsiness.i think if you drink and abuse stuff dont even waste your time with it though.i have seen someone freak out over xanax but she is a abuser.also exercise yes...i lift wieghts personaly but man you have to exercise okay.....at least 4 times a week and no EXCUSES...absolutly no EXCUSES.and last like we all know these are not mircale pills,so when the pills do their job and make you feel like yourself again quikly do your job and take advantage and make changes in your lifestyle that will make you happy start being social fast do something so your brain cant jump back into that mode of thinking again.its chemical but not 100 percent chemical.whew, i think ive said enough..anyway i just wanted a post up here that does incorprate some positve responses cause like me we dont expect a absolute cure, we just want the good days to out number the bad ones.i hope i will continue to feel better and i wish everyone luck on this miserable jorney we are all on...peace and god bless !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Posted by Denise528 on March 12, 2002, at 12:35:20
In reply to UH OH CAN I BE FEELING BETTER ???, posted by dollerbill on March 11, 2002, at 13:45:38
Hi,
It makes a nice change to read a positive note and I'm glad you've found something that works, it gives me hope. Maybe I will eventually find something that works this time round. Can I ask you if you had tried tricyclics,SSRIs and lithium before switching to Parnate? I've tried all three and I still feel no better. Also, how long did it take for the parnate to kick in?
Denise
Posted by dollerbill on March 12, 2002, at 14:47:10
In reply to Re: UH OH CAN I BE FEELING BETTER ???, posted by Denise528 on March 12, 2002, at 12:35:20
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> DeniseHey i thought i had responded so if this shows up twice my fault,anyway yess i have tried all of the ssris and each one agiated my depression,my anxiety and overall made me feel horrable.serzone wasnt too bad but aside from sedating it offered little relief in the anti depressant area.remeron uggh it knocked me out totaly and kept me in a zombie like state for a whole day..i chucked it.imiprimine the tricyclic had a nasty feel to it,i just did not like it.buspar i felt and still do is a worthless drug it helped me none and i rarly see anyone benifit form it,and its so expenisive.i was prescribed lithium but im not bi-polar and the parnate kicked in right before i was about to ingest my first lithium capsule so i did also chuck it away.trypothan and 5htp had no bad effects just not very helpful
now on to the good stuff....Klonopin like i said is a wonderful drug to me,i feel its a great tool to have handy when trying a new med in case you respond badly as i did to ssris id have huge anxiety and feel like im gonna jump out a window and the klonopin leveled me tru it.i first heard about parnate hear on posts and it was one of the few meds where the postive remarks seemd to outweigh the negative,so i researched.trust me it was like pulling teeth getting my pdoc to prescribe it until i finaly demanded it.good thing i know longer rely on pdocs for anything other than their signatures for my meds,they have done nothing but hurt me over and over again represcribing me ssris and combining them when i obivously am not right for them.i no longer trust them.anyway i was so surprised a maoi was never mentioned to me from any of my previous pdocs is their a conspiracy??(joking).anyway relying on my own research i started out on the parnte at 10 mg
and think im now feeling the benifit 3 weeks later at 40 mg.like i siad this is my fourth good day in a row AND GOD I HOPE IT LASTS.saturday when i added i mg of klonopin to my parnate i stayed out all day playing pool and acting like a normal 23 year old man,it was sooooo great to feel that way.
as i mentioned before i also staring using a ces machine which is fda approved but very expensive,its cool though it sends these lil electric buzzez alll aorund your head.to be fair im not sure what is causing this lil perios of relier but really dont care either im taking full advantage.just realize with parnate there are diearty restrictions,i did not take them seriously till i had a reaction(my own fault i ate chinese,shoudl have known better)i got a severe headache fast heart rate and blotches all over my skin.but since then i have been eating regualry i guess it will be a trial and error thing cause im not gonna be afraid to eat and if the parnate is working youd have to pry it form my blotchy hands before i stop taking it.i mean comparing a reaction to constant depression..man please bring it on baby i will take the occasional bad reactions like a MAN!! lol.anyone i think in all this babble i have answrered your question so peace and GOOD LUCK TOO!!!P.s MY DISSCLAIMER...THESE ARE MY OPINIONS,EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT ,DO NOT BE OFFENED OR DISCOURGED IF I DISSED A MED YOU TAKE OR WILL BE TAKING PLEASE ITS JUST MY EXPERIANCE.
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Posted by Denise528 on March 13, 2002, at 13:16:37
In reply to Re: UH OH CAN I BE FEELING BETTER ???, posted by dollerbill on March 12, 2002, at 14:47:10
Hi,
Thanks for the response,it really gives me hope when I read your story. It can be so disheartening when you keep starting new drugs only to find they don't work and then you have to give them at least a six week trial before giving up completely. I will definately consider either Parnate or Nardil if the prozac and Lithium doesn't work. I hope you continue to feel better.
Keep us updated.
Denise
Posted by Denise528 on March 13, 2002, at 13:20:38
In reply to Re: UH OH CAN I BE FEELING BETTER ???, posted by Denise528 on March 13, 2002, at 13:16:37
Sorry, another thing I meant to ask you. I have heard that Nardil and Parnate work more for atypical depression, sleeping and eating too much. Also, my doctor says they are more for anxious people, people who get anxious about their situation. Whilst I've been suffering from major agitation it istn't actually triggered by anything I just feel anxious for no apparent reason. Would you say that your depression is atypical.
Denise
Posted by dollerbill on March 13, 2002, at 15:12:57
In reply to Re: UH OH CAN I BE FEELING BETTER ???, posted by Denise528 on March 13, 2002, at 13:20:38
> Sorry, another thing I meant to ask you. I have heard that Nardil and Parnate work more for atypical depression, sleeping and eating too much. Also, my doctor says they are more for anxious people, people who get anxious about their situation. Whilst I've been suffering from major agitation it istn't actually triggered by anything I just feel anxious for no apparent reason. Would you say that your depression is atypical.
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> Deniseyess the parnate seems to be doing wonders for both my general anxiety and my social anxiety.it did take a few weeks to kick in.i kept the klonopin handy in case i needed it during that time and even though i seem to feel better im sure im not over the hump so if i feel anything come on i will use the benzo other than that parnate has kept my benzo use at prob a mg a week so far.and as i mentioned if you get a chance visit alpha-stim.com and read about the FDA device ive been talking about it.IT MIGHT just be adding to my anxiety relief im not quite sure yet.
P.S GOOD LUCK CAUSE OUT OF ALL THE SSRIS PROZAC IS THE GOLD STANDARD SO YOU SHOULD BE IN GOOD HANDS FOR WHATEVER REASON FOR ME THOGUH THE ACTION OF A SSRIS JUST DOESENT GET ALONG WITH ME,SO KEEP THE MAOIS AS A BACK UP PLAN CAUSE I NEVER GOT THE BENFIT OG BEING OFFERED IT AS AN OPTION IN FACT ECT WAS MENTIONED BEFORE IT ..UNBELAVABLE THSES DAMN DOCS ANYWAY GOOD LUCK
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