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Posted by crazychickuk on January 22, 2002, at 10:36:45
hi there, please help me.. i cant take this no more... anxiety is ruining my life.. i think i am better off dead than to keep suffering with this,this is also making my daughter surffer too, i am a single mam of a 2 yr old and i cant go any where without worrying.. that i am going to die.. or that i got no where to escape too, i am soo alone!!
It all started when i was being treated for depression in yr 2000 i was on effexor i was fine for a while untill one night i was at a nightclub and well that was when i experienced my first attack i was dancing away and suddenly a strong FEAR of DOOM came i thought i was dieing my head felt like it was going to explode, i went straight home wouldnt let the babysitter leave me, i was like this for days until i finally plucked up courage to go to the doctors and he said what was the matter with me he prescribed me some drug but i never took them, i was to scared too, never took anything ever again... never went out clubbing again... i still went on the odd ocasional vist to my nans and my mums... any way over christmas i was starting to worry what if something happens to me i went to the doctors and he prescribed me betta blockas, i read up on them and they interfere with your haert i was to scared to take them.. i was fine over christmas untill boxing night, just come on sudden about 9 pm i was on the computer playing games as i usually do to take my mind of things and then i started to feel a fear of doom, i was dieing, my head is going to explode, i was trembling, i took an asprin, head was hurting bad, i was shaking, feezing, my head felt like it was going to collapse, i phoned my mum at 4 am she came over, thought i was dieing too, she sat there with me, making conversation i just didnt want to talk, everything she was saying just made me worse, the fear was there still, and wouldnt go.... just like labour when the pain is there and you can not get rid of it, but at this stage it wernt pain it was just my head felt like it was going to explode, my mum phoned the doc and she said that i need to stop thinking clear my head, but i didnt know what i was thinking nothing seemed clear, i was so frightened couldnt be bothered to move or anything... any way i finally calmed down by 7 am, my mum went home i felt bad for getting my mum here because she has enough to worry about, i phoned the doc as soon as i woke up and she prescribed me valuim when i felt that i was going to have an attck, (well you do with anxiety) i would take a valuim it works calms me right down... any way last night i took a valuim (only 2mg) and it didnt work i was so frightened again the same symptoms but not the bad headache just that my head was going to explode this was again at night.. i couldnt settle i was hot.. opened a window then i was cold.. wow that was bad.. phoned doc she calmed me down.. i woke this morning with it and all day i havent been able to relax.. its ok for ppl to say to you that you need to relax and breath i tried all that i tried everything.. but when its a full blown attack nothing will work.. all the doc has done now is refered me to a nurse ( i am so disorented that i cant remember the name) 1 on 1 therapy, as i am to afraid to go to group meetings at this stage.. doc wont give me no drugs says i need to fight it,, its sooooooo hard i really need help what can i do??? this is taking over my life.. feels like i am going to die.. what with this my life and my daughters life is suffering...this aint just the odd rush of anxiety, its full blown and nothing will help me... not even valuim!!can i just ask you to confirm these symptoms.... headach (sometimes) feel like your head is going to explode, feel sick, trembling, fear you are going to die, fear there is something wrong with you, (for me its to do with my head) i suppose that if i were to have a brain tumour or a bloodclot in my brain i would soon know about it wont i?? thats what the doc says to me,, but still i dont understand about life.. whats this and that etc.. o plse help me.. email me... anything plse...
thank you
[email protected]
Posted by Dinah on January 22, 2002, at 18:15:53
In reply to ANXIETY IS KILLING ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!, posted by crazychickuk on January 22, 2002, at 10:36:45
Your symptoms do sound like my panic attacks. It also sounds as if you need a new doctor. No medication? I'm all in favor of cognitive behavior therapy for panic attacks. I really have gotten to the point where I can usually observe myself having one and say "Oh, I'm just having a panic attack. How inconvenient and unpleasant, but not life threatening." I credit my therapist and cognitive behavior therapy for this great improvement. But even now I take a Klonopin when needed and certainly before you learn the techniques to deal with panic, it sounds cruel to withhold medication from you. So by all means take advantage of the therapy, but if I were you I would look for a more understanding doctor.
Just my humble opinion.
Dinah
Posted by TSA West on January 22, 2002, at 23:05:52
In reply to ANXIETY IS KILLING ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!, posted by crazychickuk on January 22, 2002, at 10:36:45
I wonder if Kava preparations are available in your country and if you have tried it.
1. ***A few small, placebo-controlled, double-blind studies have
shown kavalactones to be significantly better than placebo in patients
suffering from anxiety of nonpsychotic origin***2. ***Kava is believed to improve the quality of sleep in humans,
with deep sleep increased and rapid-eye-movement sleep unaffected***3. ***Kava(lactones) have potent skeletal muscle relaxant
properties***
{1. Effect of a special kava extract in patients with anxiety-,
tension- and excitation states of non-psychotic genesis.
Arzneimittelforschung. 1991
2. Kava drug monograph. Denver: Micromedex. Updated 1998 Sep.
3. Kava: an overview. Distribution, mythology, botany, culture,
chemistry and pharmacology of the South Pacific's most revered herb.
Herbalgram. 1997.}
Posted by jane d on January 23, 2002, at 1:55:37
In reply to ANXIETY IS KILLING ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!, posted by crazychickuk on January 22, 2002, at 10:36:45
You might try the following site: http://depression.about.com/cs/panicdisorder/
It has descriptions of panic attacks and discussions of treatment including medication. I don't have panic attacks myself so I haven't been able to evaluate this information but some of the other sections I've seen were pretty good. I'd appreciate it if you let me know what you thought of the site. - Jane
Posted by crazychickuk on January 23, 2002, at 7:03:11
In reply to Re: ANXIETY IS KILLING ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!! » crazychickuk, posted by jane d on January 23, 2002, at 1:55:37
its not panick attacks, i wish it was, panick attacks only last a few mins but with an anxiety attack it lasts hrs even days.. thats what i am suffering with... my head feels all funny not a headache but a headache without pain.. i know it sounds funny but that whats happenbes to me, and my eyes are always bloodshot and they feel like they are going to pop out of my head... this scares me, doc says there is nothing they can do.... i have had a look at the site very interesting, i take a look at all sorts of sites, i try to relax in the day etc (hard when i got a 2 yr old) but when you actually have an anxiety attak there is nothing that you can do onece it is FULL BLOWN, i usually take a valuim but 2 nights ago when i did, it just didnt work, made me worse, i looked in the mirror and WOw my eyes were worse, nothing works for me any more, like i said i am undergoing 1 on 1 therepy but it aint helping, when you having an attack theres nothing that you can do... nothing at all.. and now i am worse because i know valuim isnt working for me anymore, it just knocks me out not calm me down.... any suggestions??
Posted by MB on January 23, 2002, at 8:55:09
In reply to Re: ANXIETY IS KILLING ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!! » crazychickuk, posted by TSA West on January 22, 2002, at 23:05:52
Kava can have antidopamine effects, so if you have restless legs with your anxiety, this could make it worse. I loved the anxiolytic effect of kava, but the akathisia drove me near nuts.
MB
Posted by crazychickuk on January 23, 2002, at 8:58:42
In reply to Re: ANXIETY IS KILLING ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!! » TSA West, posted by MB on January 23, 2002, at 8:55:09
> Kava can have antidopamine effects, so if you have restless legs with your anxiety, this could make it worse. I loved the anxiolytic effect of kava, but the akathisia drove me near nuts.
>
> MB
What is kava?
Posted by Tammy on January 23, 2002, at 10:46:05
In reply to Re: ANXIETY IS KILLING ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!, posted by crazychickuk on January 23, 2002, at 8:58:42
u need to seek a new dr. theres something wrong that they say that theres nothing they can do for u.....where are u from? panic is one of the psycho problems that can be treated but so many dont seek help and it goes untreated.....
go to another dr. !!!!!!!!!!!!! you need to be on or at least try paxil, celex etc..... on a regular basis......
Posted by crazychickuk on January 23, 2002, at 15:31:25
In reply to Re: ANXIETY IS KILLING ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Tammy on January 23, 2002, at 10:46:05
> u need to seek a new dr. theres something wrong that they say that theres nothing they can do for u.....where are u from? panic is one of the psycho problems that can be treated but so many dont seek help and it goes untreated.....
> go to another dr. !!!!!!!!!!!!! you need to be on or at least try paxil, celex etc..... on a regular basis......i am going to seek help else where, i am going to demand it!! i have had enough of being thrown away...
Posted by tina on January 23, 2002, at 18:23:30
In reply to Re: ANXIETY IS KILLING ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!! » TSA West, posted by MB on January 23, 2002, at 8:55:09
> Kava can have antidopamine effects, so if you have restless legs with your anxiety, this could make it worse. I loved the anxiolytic effect of kava, but the akathisia drove me near nuts.
>
> MB
The sad part is, up here in Canada, Health Canada is considering pulling kava off the shelves. They are asking people to "voluntarily" stop taking it and not to buy it. Something to do with the liver effects. I know kava helps alot of people so it's unfortunate that this has happened. I really hope it doesn't get banned.
Posted by Kat26 on January 23, 2002, at 20:14:02
In reply to Re: ANXIETY IS KILLING ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!, posted by tina on January 23, 2002, at 18:23:30
Yes seek health elsewhere and demand it! You have a right to it!!!!
Kat26
Posted by crazychickuk on January 23, 2002, at 20:22:58
In reply to Re: ANXIETY IS KILLING ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Kat26 on January 23, 2002, at 20:14:02
> Yes seek health elsewhere and demand it! You have a right to it!!!!
>
> Kat26Is that post to me or Tina....
Posted by crazychickuk on January 23, 2002, at 20:27:08
In reply to Re: ANXIETY IS KILLING ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Kat26 on January 23, 2002, at 20:14:02
NO one has actaully told me their sypmtoms of an attack yet.. how long does it last for? what happens to you? mine last for hrs and can go into the next day.... mine is in my head... heavyhead... a headache with no pain.. bloodshot eyes, feels like my eyes are going to pop out of my head.. serios symptoms that really scare me.. and what scares me more now is that i cn not rely on taking a valuim when i need it to calm me down as the other night when i was having an attack i was really bad so i took one and it just made me worse, i was soo tired, thought i was dying...
Posted by kid47 on January 24, 2002, at 10:17:54
In reply to ANXIETY IS KILLING ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!, posted by crazychickuk on January 22, 2002, at 10:36:45
Hello. Sorry you're having such a rough time. What you describe sounds like anxiety/panic disorder. Until I was properly treated I would go for hours & sometimes days terrified. I would have awful physical symptoms similar to what you have & would convince myself I had some insidious incurable neurological disorder. It was so disabling that after a while I was unable to get out of bed. After much agony I finally received proper treatment. The first thing my doc did was give me a very complete physical exam, including thyroid & endocrine workups to rule out other causes of my syptoms. After assuring me I was basically fit I started on a combination of meds & therapy. I don't know that Valium is the best choice. Xanax & Klonopin seemed to be the preffered meds to contol acute anxiety. I also was put on the AD Paxil. I know it's difficult but you must be proactive in seeking treatment. If your current doc is not helping you, ask for a refferal to a pdoc (pharmocologist) if possible. This disorder is very scary to deal with especially on your own. Enlist the support of friends & family. It took me awhile but today I am pretty much anxiety free. Hang in there & keep posting. Take care
kid
> hi there, please help me.. i cant take this no more... anxiety is ruining my life.. i think i am better off dead than to keep suffering with this,this is also making my daughter surffer too, i am a single mam of a 2 yr old and i cant go any where without worrying.. that i am going to die.. or that i got no where to escape too, i am soo alone!!
> It all started when i was being treated for depression in yr 2000 i was on effexor i was fine for a while untill one night i was at a nightclub and well that was when i experienced my first attack i was dancing away and suddenly a strong FEAR of DOOM came i thought i was dieing my head felt like it was going to explode, i went straight home wouldnt let the babysitter leave me, i was like this for days until i finally plucked up courage to go to the doctors and he said what was the matter with me he prescribed me some drug but i never took them, i was to scared too, never took anything ever again... never went out clubbing again... i still went on the odd ocasional vist to my nans and my mums... any way over christmas i was starting to worry what if something happens to me i went to the doctors and he prescribed me betta blockas, i read up on them and they interfere with your haert i was to scared to take them.. i was fine over christmas untill boxing night, just come on sudden about 9 pm i was on the computer playing games as i usually do to take my mind of things and then i started to feel a fear of doom, i was dieing, my head is going to explode, i was trembling, i took an asprin, head was hurting bad, i was shaking, feezing, my head felt like it was going to collapse, i phoned my mum at 4 am she came over, thought i was dieing too, she sat there with me, making conversation i just didnt want to talk, everything she was saying just made me worse, the fear was there still, and wouldnt go.... just like labour when the pain is there and you can not get rid of it, but at this stage it wernt pain it was just my head felt like it was going to explode, my mum phoned the doc and she said that i need to stop thinking clear my head, but i didnt know what i was thinking nothing seemed clear, i was so frightened couldnt be bothered to move or anything... any way i finally calmed down by 7 am, my mum went home i felt bad for getting my mum here because she has enough to worry about, i phoned the doc as soon as i woke up and she prescribed me valuim when i felt that i was going to have an attck, (well you do with anxiety) i would take a valuim it works calms me right down... any way last night i took a valuim (only 2mg) and it didnt work i was so frightened again the same symptoms but not the bad headache just that my head was going to explode this was again at night.. i couldnt settle i was hot.. opened a window then i was cold.. wow that was bad.. phoned doc she calmed me down.. i woke this morning with it and all day i havent been able to relax.. its ok for ppl to say to you that you need to relax and breath i tried all that i tried everything.. but when its a full blown attack nothing will work.. all the doc has done now is refered me to a nurse ( i am so disorented that i cant remember the name) 1 on 1 therapy, as i am to afraid to go to group meetings at this stage.. doc wont give me no drugs says i need to fight it,, its sooooooo hard i really need help what can i do??? this is taking over my life.. feels like i am going to die.. what with this my life and my daughters life is suffering...this aint just the odd rush of anxiety, its full blown and nothing will help me... not even valuim!!
>
> can i just ask you to confirm these symptoms.... headach (sometimes) feel like your head is going to explode, feel sick, trembling, fear you are going to die, fear there is something wrong with you, (for me its to do with my head) i suppose that if i were to have a brain tumour or a bloodclot in my brain i would soon know about it wont i?? thats what the doc says to me,, but still i dont understand about life.. whats this and that etc.. o plse help me.. email me... anything plse...
>
> thank you
> [email protected]
Posted by crazychickuk on January 24, 2002, at 10:40:38
In reply to Re: ANXIETY IS KILLING ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!! » crazychickuk, posted by kid47 on January 24, 2002, at 10:17:54
> Hello. Sorry you're having such a rough time. What you describe sounds like anxiety/panic disorder. Until I was properly treated I would go for hours & sometimes days terrified. I would have awful physical symptoms similar to what you have & would convince myself I had some insidious incurable neurological disorder. It was so disabling that after a while I was unable to get out of bed. After much agony I finally received proper treatment. The first thing my doc did was give me a very complete physical exam, including thyroid & endocrine workups to rule out other causes of my syptoms. After assuring me I was basically fit I started on a combination of meds & therapy. I don't know that Valium is the best choice. Xanax & Klonopin seemed to be the preffered meds to contol acute anxiety. I also was put on the AD Paxil. I know it's difficult but you must be proactive in seeking treatment. If your current doc is not helping you, ask for a refferal to a pdoc (pharmocologist) if possible. This disorder is very scary to deal with especially on your own. Enlist the support of friends & family. It took me awhile but today I am pretty much anxiety free. Hang in there & keep posting. Take care
>
> kid
>
>
THANk you kid...
Posted by Kat26 on January 24, 2002, at 13:38:11
In reply to Re: ANXIETY IS KILLING ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!, posted by crazychickuk on January 24, 2002, at 10:40:38
Crazychick,
my mesage was meant for you. It seems like your doctor does not understand you???
Sorry if I got confused... maybe I made it sound like I responded to the wrong message.Kat26
Posted by Lorraine on January 25, 2002, at 11:35:50
In reply to Re: ANXIETY IS KILLING ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Kat26 on January 24, 2002, at 13:38:11
Posted by BarbaraCat on January 28, 2002, at 12:52:34
In reply to ANXIETY IS KILLING ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!, posted by crazychickuk on January 22, 2002, at 10:36:45
Dear Chick,
I'm so sorry to hear about your panic attacks. I've had them as well and they are horrible. I can stand the dark low places of depression, I can stand anything, but panic attacks bring me to my knees. I don't know if you're still taking Effexor, but this is probably not the best drug for you. In fact, SSRI antidepressants may be doing more harm than good, and are probably contributing to your panic, no matter what the literature or your doctor says. You may need an antianxiety, and perhaps that's all you really need. I've been on Klonopin and it's worked wonders. I've also been on every kind of SSRI out there and they did nothing but make me feel worse. In my opinion, much depression is caused by anxiety and that has to be treated, both with drugs and lifestyle changes. Please hang in there, you will get better, but please do some research out on the web about the bad effects of Effexor and other SSRI's on anxiety - take it from one who's been there and knows what you're going through. -- Barbara> hi there, please help me.. i cant take this no more... anxiety is ruining my life.. i think i am better off dead than to keep suffering with this,this is also making my daughter surffer too, i am a single mam of a 2 yr old and i cant go any where without worrying.. that i am going to die.. or that i got no where to escape too, i am soo alone!!
> It all started when i was being treated for depression in yr 2000 i was on effexor i was fine for a while untill one night i was at a nightclub and well that was when i experienced my first attack i was dancing away and suddenly a strong FEAR of DOOM came i thought i was dieing my head felt like it was going to explode, i went straight home wouldnt let the babysitter leave me, i was like this for days until i finally plucked up courage to go to the doctors and he said what was the matter with me he prescribed me some drug but i never took them, i was to scared too, never took anything ever again... never went out clubbing again... i still went on the odd ocasional vist to my nans and my mums... any way over christmas i was starting to worry what if something happens to me i went to the doctors and he prescribed me betta blockas, i read up on them and they interfere with your haert i was to scared to take them.. i was fine over christmas untill boxing night, just come on sudden about 9 pm i was on the computer playing games as i usually do to take my mind of things and then i started to feel a fear of doom, i was dieing, my head is going to explode, i was trembling, i took an asprin, head was hurting bad, i was shaking, feezing, my head felt like it was going to collapse, i phoned my mum at 4 am she came over, thought i was dieing too, she sat there with me, making conversation i just didnt want to talk, everything she was saying just made me worse, the fear was there still, and wouldnt go.... just like labour when the pain is there and you can not get rid of it, but at this stage it wernt pain it was just my head felt like it was going to explode, my mum phoned the doc and she said that i need to stop thinking clear my head, but i didnt know what i was thinking nothing seemed clear, i was so frightened couldnt be bothered to move or anything... any way i finally calmed down by 7 am, my mum went home i felt bad for getting my mum here because she has enough to worry about, i phoned the doc as soon as i woke up and she prescribed me valuim when i felt that i was going to have an attck, (well you do with anxiety) i would take a valuim it works calms me right down... any way last night i took a valuim (only 2mg) and it didnt work i was so frightened again the same symptoms but not the bad headache just that my head was going to explode this was again at night.. i couldnt settle i was hot.. opened a window then i was cold.. wow that was bad.. phoned doc she calmed me down.. i woke this morning with it and all day i havent been able to relax.. its ok for ppl to say to you that you need to relax and breath i tried all that i tried everything.. but when its a full blown attack nothing will work.. all the doc has done now is refered me to a nurse ( i am so disorented that i cant remember the name) 1 on 1 therapy, as i am to afraid to go to group meetings at this stage.. doc wont give me no drugs says i need to fight it,, its sooooooo hard i really need help what can i do??? this is taking over my life.. feels like i am going to die.. what with this my life and my daughters life is suffering...this aint just the odd rush of anxiety, its full blown and nothing will help me... not even valuim!!
>
> can i just ask you to confirm these symptoms.... headach (sometimes) feel like your head is going to explode, feel sick, trembling, fear you are going to die, fear there is something wrong with you, (for me its to do with my head) i suppose that if i were to have a brain tumour or a bloodclot in my brain i would soon know about it wont i?? thats what the doc says to me,, but still i dont understand about life.. whats this and that etc.. o plse help me.. email me... anything plse...
>
> thank you
> [email protected]
Posted by crazychickuk on January 28, 2002, at 14:44:04
In reply to Re: ANXIETY IS KILLING ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!! » crazychickuk, posted by BarbaraCat on January 28, 2002, at 12:52:34
hello.... i have been of efexor since this is started,,,, i was prescribed my first ssri sinnce 2 yrs ago.. on friday celexa.. so far so good, i am positive now.. for some reason i gave not experienced an attack..
Posted by tammy on January 28, 2002, at 20:07:26
In reply to Re: ANXIETY IS KILLING ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!, posted by crazychickuk on January 28, 2002, at 14:44:04
how many mg????
Posted by crazychickuk on January 29, 2002, at 9:01:11
In reply to Re: ANXIETY IS KILLING ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!, posted by tammy on January 28, 2002, at 20:07:26
> how many mg????
i am only taking 10mg.... what do you take?
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