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Posted by JGalt on December 16, 2001, at 15:26:49
Hello everyone.
I've been using wellbutrin lately at 300mg's, and it seems to be working decently. I also take Inderal every other night to clear my beta receptors (helps prevent much ephedrine tolerance). My problem is this, for some reason I require 8hrs of sleep. Not 7.5, not 8.5, exactly 8. Last night I got 7 hrs of sleep and all day I've felt crappy. It is often difficult for me to stay asleep for a full 8 hrs, though I usually manage to force myself to. But next semester of college is coming up and when that happens it is often difficult to get more than 6 hrs of sleep because I have to be up at 6:30ish. Even now, most days I wake up and am extremely groggy/crappy feeling for about 2-3 hrs. I'm thinking that Modafinil would help with this, perhaps 100mg's every morning and evening. Anyone try this for a similar problem? I've used modafinil before w/o a prescription...for those of you that have used it, how much convincing did it take with your psydoc to get it prescribed? Also, does insurance usually cover it? Lastly, if anyone knows, would it be legal for a pdoc to write me a prescription for modafinil and then I buy it from overseas in bulk quantities in case insurance won't cover it?
Thanks,
JGalt
Posted by JohnX2 on December 17, 2001, at 0:55:14
In reply to Sleep time changes intolerance...Modafinil?, posted by JGalt on December 16, 2001, at 15:26:49
In God's Name why would anyone in college
be waking up at 6:30 am? ;)Find someone who went to class and get
the notes or something. Or if you must
attend an early class tell about your
medical issue and you should be able to
work around this.-john
> Hello everyone.
>
> I've been using wellbutrin lately at 300mg's, and it seems to be working decently. I also take Inderal every other night to clear my beta receptors (helps prevent much ephedrine tolerance). My problem is this, for some reason I require 8hrs of sleep. Not 7.5, not 8.5, exactly 8. Last night I got 7 hrs of sleep and all day I've felt crappy. It is often difficult for me to stay asleep for a full 8 hrs, though I usually manage to force myself to. But next semester of college is coming up and when that happens it is often difficult to get more than 6 hrs of sleep because I have to be up at 6:30ish. Even now, most days I wake up and am extremely groggy/crappy feeling for about 2-3 hrs. I'm thinking that Modafinil would help with this, perhaps 100mg's every morning and evening. Anyone try this for a similar problem? I've used modafinil before w/o a prescription...for those of you that have used it, how much convincing did it take with your psydoc to get it prescribed? Also, does insurance usually cover it? Lastly, if anyone knows, would it be legal for a pdoc to write me a prescription for modafinil and then I buy it from overseas in bulk quantities in case insurance won't cover it?
>
> Thanks,
> JGalt
Posted by JGalt on December 17, 2001, at 10:29:25
In reply to Re: Sleep time changes intolerance...Modafinil? » JGalt, posted by JohnX2 on December 17, 2001, at 0:55:14
hehe, yeah it sux getting up that early but I have to...the college is 1/2 hr away (which will be much longer when the weather gets icy), every weekday my classes start at 8am and go as late as 5 (got 19 credit hrs) and it takes me a while to wake up, especially when I get up that early. So any ideas on how hard the mod. would be to get prescribed and if I could then just keep my script for legal reasons and order it bulk from overseas?
JGalt
Posted by JohnX2 on December 17, 2001, at 23:56:54
In reply to Re: Sleep time changes intolerance...Modafinil?, posted by JGalt on December 17, 2001, at 10:29:25
I think its going to be a tuff sell to
the pdoc. I think taking modafinil with
wellbutrin can really goof up your sleep/wake
schedule even more. That's just my opinion.
How about drinking a cup of coffee or
2 cans of coke instead?
We're only talking about 1/2 hr. ;)I was an aggressive student in college
and frankly I don't remember a time except
the weekends when I slept in late or a few
short stints when things were slow during the
weekdays and i could blow off classes that
i wasn't fatigued. If I could do it over again,
I wouldn't have taken my schooling as seriously
as I did. I'd be a good student, just not one
of the best, because in the work world (at least
my field, engineering) once you find your 1st job
your reputation is based on your performance
there and interviews. Everything
prior (academia) is mouse nuts.-john
> hehe, yeah it sux getting up that early but I have to...the college is 1/2 hr away (which will be much longer when the weather gets icy), every weekday my classes start at 8am and go as late as 5 (got 19 credit hrs) and it takes me a while to wake up, especially when I get up that early. So any ideas on how hard the mod. would be to get prescribed and if I could then just keep my script for legal reasons and order it bulk from overseas?
>
> JGalt
Posted by JGalt on December 18, 2001, at 22:21:55
In reply to Re: Sleep time changes intolerance...Modafinil?, posted by JohnX2 on December 17, 2001, at 23:56:54
Hmmm...well I suppose there's always the offshore friends for modafinil if the sell doesn't work.
Somehow I don't think caffeine isn't going to help me...I'm already taking 200mg's a day. I've been as high as a gram a day. I take ephedrine everyday, 50mg's (which I've been as high as 125mg's a day, but with either caffeine or ephedrine tolerance sets in at high doses fast as adnenosine builds up and the beta 2 receptors chief out inside the cell more often). And of course I'm on Wellbutrin 300mg's/day.
Since I've made this post I've decided to start keeping the caffeine and wellbutrin right next to my bed. I've found that getting them in me the second I get up helps vs. spending an hour getting ready and then taking them.
You're probably right about not having to be the best in college to succeed in real life. So long as you understand the course material that will be relevant to future jobs, you should be fine. But my achievement appetite is rather large...anything that I can do and most likely succeed at by putting my mind to it (that doesn't interfere w/ my social anxiety) is something that I want to do (I wouldn't have been saying that 4 wks ago, the wellbutrin is working rather well for the depression I must say).
JGalt
Posted by JohnX2 on December 19, 2001, at 19:07:21
In reply to Re: Sleep time changes intolerance...Modafinil?, posted by JGalt on December 18, 2001, at 22:21:55
Whatever you decide to do, good luck!
you deserve a break.
try to have fun at school.-john
> Hmmm...well I suppose there's always the offshore friends for modafinil if the sell doesn't work.
>
> Somehow I don't think caffeine isn't going to help me...I'm already taking 200mg's a day. I've been as high as a gram a day. I take ephedrine everyday, 50mg's (which I've been as high as 125mg's a day, but with either caffeine or ephedrine tolerance sets in at high doses fast as adnenosine builds up and the beta 2 receptors chief out inside the cell more often). And of course I'm on Wellbutrin 300mg's/day.
>
> Since I've made this post I've decided to start keeping the caffeine and wellbutrin right next to my bed. I've found that getting them in me the second I get up helps vs. spending an hour getting ready and then taking them.
>
> You're probably right about not having to be the best in college to succeed in real life. So long as you understand the course material that will be relevant to future jobs, you should be fine. But my achievement appetite is rather large...anything that I can do and most likely succeed at by putting my mind to it (that doesn't interfere w/ my social anxiety) is something that I want to do (I wouldn't have been saying that 4 wks ago, the wellbutrin is working rather well for the depression I must say).
>
> JGalt
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