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Posted by ben on July 31, 2001, at 3:44:52
Can Ritalin increase depression ? I am trying Ritalin (5-10 mg) to 30 mg Paxil because I am very tired of Paxil. I feel some worsening of depression (sadness, motivation..) but I am not sure if its from the Ritalin or just a mood swing (i am unipolar perhaps bipolar II) of which I had severals.
Posted by ben on July 31, 2001, at 12:18:01
In reply to Ritalin and increased depression ?, posted by ben on July 31, 2001, at 3:44:52
Any experiences ? > Can Ritalin increase depression ? I am trying Ritalin (5-10 mg) to 30 mg Paxil because I am very tired of Paxil. I feel some worsening of depression (sadness, motivation..) but I am not sure if its from the Ritalin or just a mood swing (i am unipolar perhaps bipolar II) of which I had severals.
Posted by SalArmy4me on July 31, 2001, at 20:05:06
In reply to Re: Ritalin and increased depression ? Please help, posted by ben on July 31, 2001, at 12:18:01
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> Any experiences ? > Can Ritalin increase depression ? I am trying Ritalin (5-10 mg) to 30 mg Paxil because I am very tired of Paxil. I feel some worsening of depression (sadness, motivation..) but I am not sure if its from the Ritalin or just a mood swing (i am unipolar perhaps bipolar II) of which I had severals.
Posted by Cindylou on August 2, 2001, at 7:18:04
In reply to Ritalin and increased depression ?, posted by ben on July 31, 2001, at 3:44:52
Hi Ben,
I tried Ritalin for depression and fatigue, and yes, it DID make my depression much worse, right away. My psychiatrist had me stop taking it; she said stimulants can cause mood swings in some people.take care; I hope this helps,
cindy> Can Ritalin increase depression ? I am trying Ritalin (5-10 mg) to 30 mg Paxil because I am very tired of Paxil. I feel some worsening of depression (sadness, motivation..) but I am not sure if its from the Ritalin or just a mood swing (i am unipolar perhaps bipolar II) of which I had severals.
Posted by ben on August 2, 2001, at 13:43:56
In reply to Re: Ritalin and increased depression ? » ben, posted by Cindylou on August 2, 2001, at 7:18:04
Hi Cindylou
I am not sure if the Ritalin makes it worser. How long should I try it to judge right the pros and cons ? I feel dizzy after taking the Ritalin for a while. I tried now the slow release but I cut the tabs in half instead it shouldnt be done...faster dissolution of the tabs. I think 20 mg is too much....headache, sedation...
> Hi Ben,
> I tried Ritalin for depression and fatigue, and yes, it DID make my depression much worse, right away. My psychiatrist had me stop taking it; she said stimulants can cause mood swings in some people.
>
> take care; I hope this helps,
> cindy
>
> > Can Ritalin increase depression ? I am trying Ritalin (5-10 mg) to 30 mg Paxil because I am very tired of Paxil. I feel some worsening of depression (sadness, motivation..) but I am not sure if its from the Ritalin or just a mood swing (i am unipolar perhaps bipolar II) of which I had severals.
Posted by Cindylou on August 2, 2001, at 18:40:32
In reply to Re: Ritalin and increased depression ?, posted by ben on August 2, 2001, at 13:43:56
Hi Ben --
I can't remember how much Ritalin I took, but I'm almost positive it was only 5 mg -- 20 does sound like a lot, at least to start.Also, my pdoc believes that if Ritalin causes a bad reaction in the beginning, you shouldn't continue to take it -- I don't think you get adjusted to the side effects, like you do with other meds.
Does anyone out there know more about that?
Thanks, and take care, Ben!
-cindy
> Hi Cindylou
>
> I am not sure if the Ritalin makes it worser. How long should I try it to judge right the pros and cons ? I feel dizzy after taking the Ritalin for a while. I tried now the slow release but I cut the tabs in half instead it shouldnt be done...faster dissolution of the tabs. I think 20 mg is too much....headache, sedation...
>
> > Hi Ben,
> > I tried Ritalin for depression and fatigue, and yes, it DID make my depression much worse, right away. My psychiatrist had me stop taking it; she said stimulants can cause mood swings in some people.
> >
> > take care; I hope this helps,
> > cindy
> >
> > > Can Ritalin increase depression ? I am trying Ritalin (5-10 mg) to 30 mg Paxil because I am very tired of Paxil. I feel some worsening of depression (sadness, motivation..) but I am not sure if its from the Ritalin or just a mood swing (i am unipolar perhaps bipolar II) of which I had severals.
Posted by Noa on August 3, 2001, at 8:41:43
In reply to Re: Ritalin and increased depression ?, posted by Cindylou on August 2, 2001, at 18:40:32
Perhaps you should talk to your doc about trying a stimulant that is longer acting, like adderall or dexedrine. When I took Ritalin, even the SR version, I got "rebound" depression and moodiness when the drug wore off after about 2-3 (or 4-5 on the SR) hours. I don't have this problem with adderall.
Posted by ben on August 3, 2001, at 10:35:03
In reply to Re: Ritalin and increased depression ?, posted by Noa on August 3, 2001, at 8:41:43
Noa
How much Dexedrine do you take ? I am a bit scared of amphetamines because they tend more to make addictive and could activate a psychosis...tolerance... I guess I could have problems with Amphetamines because my electrocardiogramm istnt normal...had a heart operation (QT interval is streched !!!)...I had worsening of this problem with tricyclics and antipsychotics.
What do you think ?> Perhaps you should talk to your doc about trying a stimulant that is longer acting, like adderall or dexedrine. When I took Ritalin, even the SR version, I got "rebound" depression and moodiness when the drug wore off after about 2-3 (or 4-5 on the SR) hours. I don't have this problem with adderall.
Posted by ben on August 4, 2001, at 13:37:16
In reply to Re: Ritalin and increased depression ?, posted by ben on August 3, 2001, at 10:35:03
I guess I have mood swings since starting Ritalin (a wekk ago). I am taking 2x 5 mg to 30 mg Paxil (makes me tired) as an augmentation strategy. Is this possible ? How long should I try it ? My doc said that I have to try several days and different amounts ! What do you think about that. It seems that it is working a day or two and then making my mood bad (swings during the day). What about Provigil (Modafinil) or Dexedrine (d-amphetamin) concerning mood and energy ? I tried Reboxetine with success on drive but not at all on mood (pooped out quickly). I fear of amphetamines because of dependence, promoting psychosis and depression as well...
> Noa
> How much Dexedrine do you take ? I am a bit scared of amphetamines because they tend more to make addictive and could activate a psychosis...tolerance... I guess I could have problems with Amphetamines because my electrocardiogramm istnt normal...had a heart operation (QT interval is streched !!!)...I had worsening of this problem with tricyclics and antipsychotics.
> What do you think ?
>
> > Perhaps you should talk to your doc about trying a stimulant that is longer acting, like adderall or dexedrine. When I took Ritalin, even the SR version, I got "rebound" depression and moodiness when the drug wore off after about 2-3 (or 4-5 on the SR) hours. I don't have this problem with adderall.
Posted by Mitch on August 5, 2001, at 13:13:29
In reply to Re: HELP PLEASE !!!, posted by ben on August 5, 2001, at 6:33:41
Ben,
Been on Adderall before, but not Ritalin. From what I understand the blood levels with Ritalin are so short-lived you need very frequent doses. Even the Concerta (extended release) can be troublesome from what I read here. Adderall flattened out my mood swings and I think you ought to try it instead of Ritalin. Or you can try just plain dexedrine Spansules (which are time-release).
Mitch
Posted by Noa on August 7, 2001, at 11:39:57
In reply to Re: HELP PLEASE !!! » ben, posted by Mitch on August 5, 2001, at 13:13:29
Ben,
I found Ritalin and even Ritalin SR to be short acting, leaving me with rebound depression when it wore off. I feel better on Adderall.
Mitch,
Just to clarify--if your impression about Concerta is based on something I wrote, let me clarifiy that when I referred to the Sustained release version of Ritalin, I was referring to Ritalin SR, NOT Concerta. I have never tried Concerta. I have heard from a few people that they like it, that it does last much longer. It has a completely different process of releasing the med slowly. Perhaps your impression of Concerta is from another source, but I just thought I'd clarify in case it was from my posts.
Posted by Mitch on August 7, 2001, at 13:33:36
In reply to Re: HELP PLEASE !!! Ben and Mitch, posted by Noa on August 7, 2001, at 11:39:57
> Mitch,
>
> Just to clarify--if your impression about Concerta is based on something I wrote, let me clarifiy that when I referred to the Sustained release version of Ritalin, I was referring to Ritalin SR, NOT Concerta. I have never tried Concerta. I have heard from a few people that they like it, that it does last much longer. It has a completely different process of releasing the med slowly. Perhaps your impression of Concerta is from another source, but I just thought I'd clarify in case it was from my posts.Yep, I think it was your post. thanks for the clarification.
Mitch
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