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Posted by tina on June 10, 2000, at 16:32:21
Hi all, hope your days are going well. I'm just having a blah day. Not depressed exactly, just lethargic and unmotivated. The weather is crappy, my ass is expanding and my dog has hemorhoids. Don't know what the dog has to do with this but what the hell. I'm gaining weight, smoking more than ever, staring into the t.v like a zombie and I am in general disgust of myself. Whoa, what a saturday! Weekends always do this to me. What's with that? I need a job, a hobby, a cause, anything that can shake me out of my stupor. The fact is, I don't know if I'm ready to go back to a job, of any kind. The tiniest speck of stress and I turn into a blubbering idiot. I am afraid that I'm getting avoidant and that I'll never have the courage or inclination to work again. I've already lost the will to eat, exercise, walk the dog, shower, sleep, speak etc... I feel lost. What a downer huh? Sorry about that. Just don't want to bug my husband with yet another selfish rant so I rant here. I need help but I just don't know what kind. The meds are working, I'm not depressed. I just don't remember how to live anymore, my mind and body have forgotten. Where do you look, inside yourself, for the motivation to live your life. To all you go-getters out there, HELP---please.
Posted by shellie on June 10, 2000, at 16:58:58
In reply to Feelin' kinda down today, posted by tina on June 10, 2000, at 16:32:21
>When I was in your position (about 12 years ago) I went to a local community college and took a course in something I thought would be fun. I don't know what your week is like, but I definitely needed structure in my life. (If weekends are your problem you could pick something on the weekend). It was a really small college with a small art department and I felt very comfortable there. About a year and a half later, I started a small business, which came directly out of taking that course. One never knows about the turns life will take, but they don't take many if you don't leave your house. Signing up for the course (actually I took two) started a whole new attitude and life for me, even though I already had a masters degree. Not that I don't still have depression (I do), but I have something that's mine, that I'm really good at, so that's helped me alot. Anyway,my advise is to pick something that's already set up for you, and something that may be fun as a start.And turn off the tv. shellie
Posted by Kerry on June 10, 2000, at 17:28:57
In reply to Feelin' kinda down today, posted by tina on June 10, 2000, at 16:32:21
Have you thought about volunteering somewhere? I don't do much of that but my mother always tells me to volunteer when I'm feeling bad (never mind that she doesn't understand depression and thinks you can just "will yourself well.") It's supposed to put your focus on people other than yourself. I don't think it's such a bad idea. But if you do, choose something you'd like and people you'd want to be around--nothing too depressing. I made the mistake of volunteering to work once a week with junior high school girls going through a church's confirmation class...when I wasn't even sure what I believed in (in the same spot now). Miserable, miserable. Can't stand that age. I have a friend who has worked at blood banks giving out orange juice and cookies. Everyone there is pretty mellow and happy.
Posted by Andre Allard on June 11, 2000, at 20:47:08
In reply to Feelin' kinda down today, posted by tina on June 10, 2000, at 16:32:21
Last year, after spending a month in the hospital, I left much improved but I was still moderately depressed. For the next three weeks, I sat on my ass and felt like complete garbage. I eventually found a job a began going out a little more. This made the difference. I became "well" within a week.
I read a study last week that was done on mice to see if being socially active had any effect of the neurotransmitters involved in depression. There were two groups. Group A was put in isolation for X number of weeks. Group B lived with other mice and was social for the same number of weeks. At the end of the study, test were conducted to measure the neurochemicals involved in depression. The tests showed that group B had much higher levels of serotonin, etc and they were much more socially compatable.
Since I came back from school at the end of April, I have not been that well. I start working this week and I will try to go out with friends every night if I can. In two weeks time, I can guarantee that I will be much better. This is one of the reasons why depression is so common in the elderly. They do not do anything! Well, most of them anyways. I know that it is much easier for me to go out with my friends and do something because of the age I am at - 21. This does not mean that you cannot call up a few friends or go out with your family. If you do not have kids, there are no excuses. So I expect to see you downtown this weekend, dancing it up.
Posted by tina on June 12, 2000, at 8:00:47
In reply to Re: Feelin' kinda down today, posted by Andre Allard on June 11, 2000, at 20:47:08
No friends!
> Last year, after spending a month in the hospital, I left much improved but I was still moderately depressed. For the next three weeks, I sat on my ass and felt like complete garbage. I eventually found a job a began going out a little more. This made the difference. I became "well" within a week.
>
> I read a study last week that was done on mice to see if being socially active had any effect of the neurotransmitters involved in depression. There were two groups. Group A was put in isolation for X number of weeks. Group B lived with other mice and was social for the same number of weeks. At the end of the study, test were conducted to measure the neurochemicals involved in depression. The tests showed that group B had much higher levels of serotonin, etc and they were much more socially compatable.
>
> Since I came back from school at the end of April, I have not been that well. I start working this week and I will try to go out with friends every night if I can. In two weeks time, I can guarantee that I will be much better. This is one of the reasons why depression is so common in the elderly. They do not do anything! Well, most of them anyways. I know that it is much easier for me to go out with my friends and do something because of the age I am at - 21. This does not mean that you cannot call up a few friends or go out with your family. If you do not have kids, there are no excuses. So I expect to see you downtown this weekend, dancing it up.
Posted by Greg on June 12, 2000, at 8:42:50
In reply to Une probleme avec ton idee Andre, posted by tina on June 12, 2000, at 8:00:47
Excuse me??? What am I, chopped liver?
> No friends!
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> > Last year, after spending a month in the hospital, I left much improved but I was still moderately depressed. For the next three weeks, I sat on my ass and felt like complete garbage. I eventually found a job a began going out a little more. This made the difference. I became "well" within a week.
> >
> > I read a study last week that was done on mice to see if being socially active had any effect of the neurotransmitters involved in depression. There were two groups. Group A was put in isolation for X number of weeks. Group B lived with other mice and was social for the same number of weeks. At the end of the study, test were conducted to measure the neurochemicals involved in depression. The tests showed that group B had much higher levels of serotonin, etc and they were much more socially compatable.
> >
> > Since I came back from school at the end of April, I have not been that well. I start working this week and I will try to go out with friends every night if I can. In two weeks time, I can guarantee that I will be much better. This is one of the reasons why depression is so common in the elderly. They do not do anything! Well, most of them anyways. I know that it is much easier for me to go out with my friends and do something because of the age I am at - 21. This does not mean that you cannot call up a few friends or go out with your family. If you do not have kids, there are no excuses. So I expect to see you downtown this weekend, dancing it up.
Posted by NikkiT on June 12, 2000, at 10:18:37
In reply to Re: Une probleme avec ton idee Andre » tina, posted by Greg on June 12, 2000, at 8:42:50
Damn.. this sounds like the PERFECT excuse for another hioliday in the US..
Except you;re from Canada aren't you... Oh well, it'll have to be Canada.. been trying to get hubby out to Toronto to meet some family I ahve there... and they ahve this gorge cottage for vacations in the Canadian Shield!!!
Guess it *might* be a tad far for popping over for the weekend though!!!
> Excuse me??? What am I, chopped liver?
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> > No friends!
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> > > Last year, after spending a month in the hospital, I left much improved but I was still moderately depressed. For the next three weeks, I sat on my ass and felt like complete garbage. I eventually found a job a began going out a little more. This made the difference. I became "well" within a week.
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> > > I read a study last week that was done on mice to see if being socially active had any effect of the neurotransmitters involved in depression. There were two groups. Group A was put in isolation for X number of weeks. Group B lived with other mice and was social for the same number of weeks. At the end of the study, test were conducted to measure the neurochemicals involved in depression. The tests showed that group B had much higher levels of serotonin, etc and they were much more socially compatable.
> > >
> > > Since I came back from school at the end of April, I have not been that well. I start working this week and I will try to go out with friends every night if I can. In two weeks time, I can guarantee that I will be much better. This is one of the reasons why depression is so common in the elderly. They do not do anything! Well, most of them anyways. I know that it is much easier for me to go out with my friends and do something because of the age I am at - 21. This does not mean that you cannot call up a few friends or go out with your family. If you do not have kids, there are no excuses. So I expect to see you downtown this weekend, dancing it up.
Posted by Kath on June 12, 2000, at 10:33:32
In reply to Re: Une probleme avec ton idee Andre Tina, posted by NikkiT on June 12, 2000, at 10:18:37
Hey Tina - Just answered your post from the 8th and just NOW read this one. I'm sorry your feeling yucky. Sounds like some good advice here. I'll add my favorite flag-waving. Twelve-step programs. (Al-Anon, Nar-Anon - the one I go to, CoDependents Anonymous.) Here, in Ontario, they have Depressed Anonymous, or maybe it's called Depression Anonymous. I don't know if they have them where you live. I know that CoDA is the best thing that's happened to me. I have been going about 3 months & feel so cared-for & supported there. We have the meeting, share feelings in a no-feedback environment, which was very unusual for me at first, but ends up feeling very safe, because I know that everyone simply accepts me & accepts my feelings. I am in the process of developing 3 friendships with people in the group. I highly recommend looking into it, or, if you can't do that, asking someone to look into it for you. Your local Health Department or Hospital should be able to help. I get on the band-wagon about this, because it's made SUCH a difference in my life.
Last year I tried volunteering & that worked very well for me. I worked in a school for kids who had various emotional problems & weren't doing well in ordinary school. I was a "special friend" to two 12-yr old boys. I spend time separately with each of them - in one case, playing board games/ drawing etc.; in the other case helping him learn to read. He hated reading buy loved 4-wheeler heavy trucks, so I'd buy 4-wheeler magazines & give them to him & he'd pick out various sentences & read them. I also got books about trucks from the library for him. It was extremely rewarding. The one boy invited me to his Bar Mitzvah (sp?) which made me feel very special because it was such a special occasion for him!
Do take care, and hope you feel better soon.
Hugs, Kath
> Damn.. this sounds like the PERFECT excuse for another hioliday in the US..
>
> Except you;re from Canada aren't you... Oh well, it'll have to be Canada.. been trying to get hubby out to Toronto to meet some family I ahve there... and they ahve this gorge cottage for vacations in the Canadian Shield!!!
>
> Guess it *might* be a tad far for popping over for the weekend though!!!
>
> > Excuse me??? What am I, chopped liver?
> >
> > > No friends!
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> > > > Last year, after spending a month in the hospital, I left much improved but I was still moderately depressed. For the next three weeks, I sat on my ass and felt like complete garbage. I eventually found a job a began going out a little more. This made the difference. I became "well" within a week.
> > > >
> > > > I read a study last week that was done on mice to see if being socially active had any effect of the neurotransmitters involved in depression. There were two groups. Group A was put in isolation for X number of weeks. Group B lived with other mice and was social for the same number of weeks. At the end of the study, test were conducted to measure the neurochemicals involved in depression. The tests showed that group B had much higher levels of serotonin, etc and they were much more socially compatable.
> > > >
> > > > Since I came back from school at the end of April, I have not been that well. I start working this week and I will try to go out with friends every night if I can. In two weeks time, I can guarantee that I will be much better. This is one of the reasons why depression is so common in the elderly. They do not do anything! Well, most of them anyways. I know that it is much easier for me to go out with my friends and do something because of the age I am at - 21. This does not mean that you cannot call up a few friends or go out with your family. If you do not have kids, there are no excuses. So I expect to see you downtown this weekend, dancing it up.
Posted by tina on June 12, 2000, at 11:47:06
In reply to Re: Une probleme avec ton idee Andre » tina, posted by Greg on June 12, 2000, at 8:42:50
I didn't mean to make anyone feel like chopped liver, I just meant friends who live close enough to go visit or go out with. Besides that, the panic attacks still rear their ugly heads when I even think about going out to have "fun". Sorry for the offence and Nikki, I'm 4.5 hours away from Toronto so if you come, let me know, we'll visit for sure.---Pied-dans-sa-bouche Tina
> Excuse me??? What am I, chopped liver?
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> > No friends!
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> >
> > > Last year, after spending a month in the hospital, I left much improved but I was still moderately depressed. For the next three weeks, I sat on my ass and felt like complete garbage. I eventually found a job a began going out a little more. This made the difference. I became "well" within a week.
> > >
> > > I read a study last week that was done on mice to see if being socially active had any effect of the neurotransmitters involved in depression. There were two groups. Group A was put in isolation for X number of weeks. Group B lived with other mice and was social for the same number of weeks. At the end of the study, test were conducted to measure the neurochemicals involved in depression. The tests showed that group B had much higher levels of serotonin, etc and they were much more socially compatable.
> > >
> > > Since I came back from school at the end of April, I have not been that well. I start working this week and I will try to go out with friends every night if I can. In two weeks time, I can guarantee that I will be much better. This is one of the reasons why depression is so common in the elderly. They do not do anything! Well, most of them anyways. I know that it is much easier for me to go out with my friends and do something because of the age I am at - 21. This does not mean that you cannot call up a few friends or go out with your family. If you do not have kids, there are no excuses. So I expect to see you downtown this weekend, dancing it up.
Posted by Greg on June 12, 2000, at 12:01:14
In reply to Pas de probleme maintenant n'est pas? Pour toutes , posted by tina on June 12, 2000, at 11:47:06
You still haven't learned my sense of humor, have you? No offense taken, just giving you a hard time... sorry.
Love ya,
Greg> I didn't mean to make anyone feel like chopped liver, I just meant friends who live close enough to go visit or go out with. Besides that, the panic attacks still rear their ugly heads when I even think about going out to have "fun". Sorry for the offence and Nikki, I'm 4.5 hours away from Toronto so if you come, let me know, we'll visit for sure.---Pied-dans-sa-bouche Tina
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> > Excuse me??? What am I, chopped liver?
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> > > No friends!
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> > > > Last year, after spending a month in the hospital, I left much improved but I was still moderately depressed. For the next three weeks, I sat on my ass and felt like complete garbage. I eventually found a job a began going out a little more. This made the difference. I became "well" within a week.
> > > >
> > > > I read a study last week that was done on mice to see if being socially active had any effect of the neurotransmitters involved in depression. There were two groups. Group A was put in isolation for X number of weeks. Group B lived with other mice and was social for the same number of weeks. At the end of the study, test were conducted to measure the neurochemicals involved in depression. The tests showed that group B had much higher levels of serotonin, etc and they were much more socially compatable.
> > > >
> > > > Since I came back from school at the end of April, I have not been that well. I start working this week and I will try to go out with friends every night if I can. In two weeks time, I can guarantee that I will be much better. This is one of the reasons why depression is so common in the elderly. They do not do anything! Well, most of them anyways. I know that it is much easier for me to go out with my friends and do something because of the age I am at - 21. This does not mean that you cannot call up a few friends or go out with your family. If you do not have kids, there are no excuses. So I expect to see you downtown this weekend, dancing it up.
Posted by tina on June 12, 2000, at 12:24:13
In reply to Re: Pas de probleme maintenant n'est pas? Pour toutes » tina, posted by Greg on June 12, 2000, at 12:01:14
Greg: I think I have a VERY FIRM GRASP on your sense of humour......
> You still haven't learned my sense of humor, have you? No offense taken, just giving you a hard time... sorry.
>
> Love ya,
> Greg
>
> > I didn't mean to make anyone feel like chopped liver, I just meant friends who live close enough to go visit or go out with. Besides that, the panic attacks still rear their ugly heads when I even think about going out to have "fun". Sorry for the offence and Nikki, I'm 4.5 hours away from Toronto so if you come, let me know, we'll visit for sure.---Pied-dans-sa-bouche Tina
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> > > Excuse me??? What am I, chopped liver?
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> > > > No friends!
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> > > > > Last year, after spending a month in the hospital, I left much improved but I was still moderately depressed. For the next three weeks, I sat on my ass and felt like complete garbage. I eventually found a job a began going out a little more. This made the difference. I became "well" within a week.
> > > > >
> > > > > I read a study last week that was done on mice to see if being socially active had any effect of the neurotransmitters involved in depression. There were two groups. Group A was put in isolation for X number of weeks. Group B lived with other mice and was social for the same number of weeks. At the end of the study, test were conducted to measure the neurochemicals involved in depression. The tests showed that group B had much higher levels of serotonin, etc and they were much more socially compatable.
> > > > >
> > > > > Since I came back from school at the end of April, I have not been that well. I start working this week and I will try to go out with friends every night if I can. In two weeks time, I can guarantee that I will be much better. This is one of the reasons why depression is so common in the elderly. They do not do anything! Well, most of them anyways. I know that it is much easier for me to go out with my friends and do something because of the age I am at - 21. This does not mean that you cannot call up a few friends or go out with your family. If you do not have kids, there are no excuses. So I expect to see you downtown this weekend, dancing it up.
Posted by Greg on June 12, 2000, at 12:29:58
In reply to Re: Pas de probleme maintenant n'est pas? Pour toutes » Greg, posted by tina on June 12, 2000, at 12:24:13
Yes ma'am, you do. I stand corrected ;^)
> Greg: I think I have a VERY FIRM GRASP on your sense of humour......
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> > You still haven't learned my sense of humor, have you? No offense taken, just giving you a hard time... sorry.
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> > Love ya,
> > Greg
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> > > I didn't mean to make anyone feel like chopped liver, I just meant friends who live close enough to go visit or go out with. Besides that, the panic attacks still rear their ugly heads when I even think about going out to have "fun". Sorry for the offence and Nikki, I'm 4.5 hours away from Toronto so if you come, let me know, we'll visit for sure.---Pied-dans-sa-bouche Tina
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> > > > Excuse me??? What am I, chopped liver?
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> > > > > No friends!
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> > > > > > Last year, after spending a month in the hospital, I left much improved but I was still moderately depressed. For the next three weeks, I sat on my ass and felt like complete garbage. I eventually found a job a began going out a little more. This made the difference. I became "well" within a week.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I read a study last week that was done on mice to see if being socially active had any effect of the neurotransmitters involved in depression. There were two groups. Group A was put in isolation for X number of weeks. Group B lived with other mice and was social for the same number of weeks. At the end of the study, test were conducted to measure the neurochemicals involved in depression. The tests showed that group B had much higher levels of serotonin, etc and they were much more socially compatable.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Since I came back from school at the end of April, I have not been that well. I start working this week and I will try to go out with friends every night if I can. In two weeks time, I can guarantee that I will be much better. This is one of the reasons why depression is so common in the elderly. They do not do anything! Well, most of them anyways. I know that it is much easier for me to go out with my friends and do something because of the age I am at - 21. This does not mean that you cannot call up a few friends or go out with your family. If you do not have kids, there are no excuses. So I expect to see you downtown this weekend, dancing it up.
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