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Posted by tina on May 8, 2000, at 8:03:14
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR? , posted by Theresa Pye on May 8, 2000, at 6:46:38
I'd love to know how you're fairing with the BuSpar. I've been considering it but am unsure it'll be strong enough. Input greatly appreciated, thanks--Tina
> Perhaps I should also add, that there are those including myself who feel they now have permenant problems from taking the medication. I stopped taking the medication a year ago and I am still having problems. For those who have the muscle tightness during the withdrawal, I still have mine even though it was a year ago. Certain medications may be helpful but can also be dangerous. My case in point is Rezulin and others. Of course there were people who were helped by this drug, but researchers later found that it can cause liver damage/failure, and people died from the medication. This is why it was pulled from the market.
> > IMHO, Effexor/Effexor XR should be pulled from the market. I took it for three years.
> >
> > Hi there,
> > >
> > > Anyone care to comment on the use of Effexor? Anyone
> > > "happy" with it? I have tried Prozac (too much anxiety),
> > > Serzone (too sedating). I am currently on Buspar for anxiety.
> > >
> > > Been reading many different reports... Effexor seems
> > > to have a lot of success...
> > >
> > > please share your thoughts on this.
Posted by Carlene/Texas on May 14, 2000, at 19:34:48
In reply to Anyone had success on Effexor XR? , posted by jp on October 24, 1999, at 14:59:14
Just started 75mg twice a day. Was on the starter kit the first two weeks. Doctor thought Effexor would help with my pain from lupus and fibromylgia. Has anyone taken it for that?
Posted by Donna Odom on May 23, 2000, at 11:41:56
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR? , posted by Carlene/Texas on May 14, 2000, at 19:35:15
> Just started 75mg twice a day. Was on the starter kit the first two weeks. Doctor thought Effexor would help with my pain from lupus and fibromylgia. Has anyone taken it for that?
I'm not taking it for that, but for a rough period I was going through. After being on 37.5 mg for 1 week and 75 for 5 weeks, I started experiencing severe hand shaking. Has anyone else had that problem? I'm in the process of weaning myself off now.
Posted by Donna Odom on May 23, 2000, at 12:08:42
In reply to Re: withdrawal, posted by Amy on May 4, 2000, at 19:52:15
> My experience with Effexor has not been pleasant. My gynecologist referred me to a psychiatrist after his “drug du jour" regimen for my menopause symptoms didn’t help my depression. I first saw the shrink in January and he immediately put me on Effexor, 37.5 for one week and then 75 mg. after that. I was on 75 mg. for one and a half months and got no relief from my depression. He gradually increased the dose to 300 mg., but I couldn’t handle the sleepiness side effects. (I wanted to sleep for 10 – 12 hours per day.) Even at the higher doses, my depression was not helped at all. I decided I wanted to go off of it. I was on 150 mg. for three weeks, 75 mg. for 5 days and 37.5 mg. for 7 days. I had my last dose on Monday, May 1. And by Tuesday afternoon I felt dizzy. (See Maggie’s posting of April 13, regarding missed doses. This describes my experience perfectly.) The dizziness has remained which led me to this web site today. Is there any way to get off this drug with out taking more of it? I can’t handle too much more of these symptoms.
Does anyone know how long it takes to get completely out of your system?
Posted by Star on May 23, 2000, at 18:31:45
In reply to Alternative Ways of dealing with Depression, posted by BJ on April 26, 2000, at 23:02:33
Question-- would you post the same message on a cancer, lupus, or alzheimer's message board? Depression and anxiety are BIOMEDICAL problems that leave patients at a disadvantage to varying degrees to deal with life circumstances. In most cases, medication can help. YES, patients should make well-educated, cautious choices about treatment options. Patients should also consider alternative treatments and therapies to supplement medication. But this social taboo and intolerance for antidepressants and antianxiety medications is unwarranted and counterproductive. Why should people with biologically-based medical problems deny themselves relief and recovery through medication? Why should these patients, already suffering, have to endure such intolerance for their condition or be made to feel that less effective alternatives are somehow morally superior to effective medication?
Posted by Star on May 23, 2000, at 18:31:58
In reply to Alternative Ways of dealing with Depression, posted by BJ on April 26, 2000, at 23:02:33
Question-- would you post the same message on a cancer, lupus, or alzheimer's message board? Depression and anxiety are BIOMEDICAL problems that leave patients at a disadvantage to varying degrees to deal with life circumstances. In most cases, medication can help. YES, patients should make well-educated, cautious choices about treatment options. Patients should also consider alternative treatments and therapies to supplement medication. But this social taboo and intolerance for antidepressants and antianxiety medications is unwarranted and counterproductive. Why should people with biologically-based medical problems deny themselves relief and recovery through medication? Why should these patients, already suffering, have to endure such intolerance for their condition or be made to feel that less effective alternatives are somehow morally superior to effective medication?
Posted by SEVE on May 24, 2000, at 6:46:08
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR? , posted by Donna Odom on May 23, 2000, at 11:41:56
> > Just started 75mg twice a day. Was on the starter kit the first two weeks. Doctor thought Effexor would help with my pain from lupus and fibromylgia. Has anyone taken it for that?
>
> I'm not taking it for that, but for a rough period I was going through. After being on 37.5 mg for 1 week and 75 for 5 weeks, I started experiencing severe hand shaking. Has anyone else had that problem? I'm in the process of weaning myself off now.
Posted by Sky on May 26, 2000, at 11:30:21
In reply to Re: Effexor XR vs. Paxil and weight gain , posted by Kimberly on May 6, 2000, at 10:20:14
> I too gained some weight on effexor and also had ALOT of side effects trying to go off of it too quickly. A very interesting thing that I just discovered in talking with my psychiatrist yesterday. Apparently the reason I have had so much trouble with several meds (all SSRIs, effexor, wellbutrin) is that they target not only serotonin, neurepenephrine (sp?), but also dopamine. Apparently my body is hypersensitive to dopamine, so these meds will rev me up very much, cause insomnia, constant hungry (almost hypoglycemic feelings), and weight gain. The same effects tend to occur in me with too much caffeine, decongestant, or stimulant diet pills. this is a huge breakthrough for me in that it will be a big help in picking future meds. now i am on serzone and will be starting buspar in 4-5 days along with it. neither of them touches dopamine so i have good feelings about them. i simply wanted to pass this on because i feel it is a huge piece of information that may help those of you having trouble on certain medicines (again ALL SSRIs (zoloft,paxil,prozac,celexa), effexor, and wellbutrin. feel free to email me to discuss ([email protected]). Kimberly
>
> > I am thrilled to see the posts regarding weight gain. I have gained almost 40lbs over the past 1 1/2 years that I've been taking Effexor. I had no idea why I was gaining and have become more depressed by the weight gain than I was initially. I changed doctors recently and was told it could cause weight gain. My question now, has anyone ever gone just COLD TURKEY? How long did it last and was it unbearable?
> >
> >
> > > >I am on 75 mg. Effexor XR a day. I have gained
> > > 20 lbs. I exercise like a demon and nothing comes
> > > off. I hate it. Can't wear any of my clothes,
> > > but I refuse to go out and buy more. Help. I'm
> > > thinking seriously about going on St. John's Wort.
> > > Anyone ever do this? Everything I read says they
> > > don't know how to dose this kind of switch. Any info
> > > would be greatly helpful.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Just got sample of Effexor XR. I've been on Paxil 20mg. for 1 yr. I feel great and my panic attacks are gone. BUT --- I keep gaining weight. I told my dr. to give me something else. Did anyone gain weight on this stuff? Does anyone use this for panic attacks. My dr. told me I could go right from Paxil to Effexor XR, stopping one and starting the other with no withdrawl symptoms. ANyone try it. Thanks for any input.
> > > > >
have been on Effexor XR and had the weight gain, also had tremmors. Tried St Johns Wart and with no results. Ready to give up.
Posted by Kellie on May 28, 2000, at 9:41:20
In reply to Alternative Ways of dealing with Depression, posted by BJ on April 26, 2000, at 23:02:33
Depression is a chemical imbalance of the brain. I haven't found any natural substances, such as St John's Wort that are strong enough or have the correct type of chemicals to replace seratonin, and non medical methods absolutely do not work. Telling a depressive to "learn how to calm down" or "snap out of it", or "you can change if you want to" is insensative at best and ignorant and callous at worst. My mother is a diabetic and I'd never dream of telling her she could meditate and get over it. So why would you want to tell me to try an alternative method to cure myself of depression. Believe me, before I finally admitted to myself that I had a serous illness, I tried!! Prayer,meditation,sense deprivation,staring at candles,humming,exercise,--nothing worked. This is not an emotional problem, it's a biological problem. Increase your knowledge and you might learn something.
Posted by Kellie on May 28, 2000, at 10:45:53
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR? , posted by SEVE on May 24, 2000, at 6:46:08
I've been on three different meds for depression and Effexor is the latest. My doctor never said there would be problems coming off it. The only reasons I've changed meds is because I develope a tolerance to them. How long is the longest that someone being treated for depression with Effexor been on it? Are the withdrawals worse if you've been on it for a long time? Since my depression doesn't ever let up I don't anticipate ever going off medication entirely, but the withdrawal symptoms worry me. I had superduper energy for the first month after starting Effexor, but virtually no side effects since then. Thanks. Kellie
> > > Just started 75mg twice a day. Was on the starter kit the first two weeks. Doctor thought Effexor would help with my pain from lupus and fibromylgia. Has anyone taken it for that?
> >
> > I'm not taking it for that, but for a rough period I was going through. After being on 37.5 mg for 1 week and 75 for 5 weeks, I started experiencing severe hand shaking. Has anyone else had that problem? I'm in the process of weaning myself off now.
Posted by Janette on May 30, 2000, at 13:47:10
In reply to Re: withdrawal, posted by Rhonda on April 28, 2000, at 7:17:12
RE: Effexor withdrawal:
I was relieved that other people have experienced the same symptoms as I have. My doctor was sure I had a virus. The second time I tried to get off the effexor I experienced the same vertigo and wiggly feeling in my head and eyes. The thing that bothered me the most was that it took 3 days for the symptoms to start after I stopped taking the effexor. I have been on 35.5 mg once a day for over 2 months and every time I try to dicontinue use I get that wiggly feeling after about 2 days. Has anyone had success getting off of this drug?
Posted by Jackie Jones on May 31, 2000, at 13:45:25
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR? , posted by Ann on November 7, 1999, at 12:28:40
I have been on Prozac, which was awful...Zoloft, in which I was a Zombie..., and Paxil, which made me very disoriented. I could not remember how I drove to work! I have been put on effexor xr (37.5 mg per day) 3 weeks ago. So far, so good. The only side effect that I am experiencing is a little tiredness about 30 minutes after taking. I yawn alot but I never have gotten to the point that I just have to go to sleep. I rest much better at night. I take mine WITH FOOD around lunch time, and by bed time I am still relaxed enough to sleep good but not hard. I normally stay up until about 11:00-12:00 at night and I hit the floor at 5:30 am., however, I have always done this.
I am having GREAT results with effexor xr - in comparison with the others. With Paxil, I was falling asleep sitting up in my chair at work - even when I took it with food, & it was a lower dosage.
BUT, medicines affect me very harshly anyway. I can take a bayer aspirin and must lay down for 4 hours, and we won't even talk about a pain pill of any kind!!! I totally loose it!!! I can sleep for at least 24 hours if not more.
Dr's say this is dur to Low BP - always has been low and probably always will be.
Anyway, no weight gain - but I did with Paxil. Constipation with Paxil, but that seems to be getting better too!
I love IT
JJ
Posted by Cindy W on June 1, 2000, at 9:42:07
In reply to Re: Effexor XR vs. Paxil and weight gain , posted by Sky on May 26, 2000, at 11:30:21
> > I too gained some weight on effexor and also had ALOT of side effects trying to go off of it too quickly. A very interesting thing that I just discovered in talking with my psychiatrist yesterday. Apparently the reason I have had so much trouble with several meds (all SSRIs, effexor, wellbutrin) is that they target not only serotonin, neurepenephrine (sp?), but also dopamine. Apparently my body is hypersensitive to dopamine, so these meds will rev me up very much, cause insomnia, constant hungry (almost hypoglycemic feelings), and weight gain. The same effects tend to occur in me with too much caffeine, decongestant, or stimulant diet pills. this is a huge breakthrough for me in that it will be a big help in picking future meds. now i am on serzone and will be starting buspar in 4-5 days along with it. neither of them touches dopamine so i have good feelings about them. i simply wanted to pass this on because i feel it is a huge piece of information that may help those of you having trouble on certain medicines (again ALL SSRIs (zoloft,paxil,prozac,celexa), effexor, and wellbutrin. feel free to email me to discuss ([email protected]). Kimberly
> >
> > > I am thrilled to see the posts regarding weight gain. I have gained almost 40lbs over the past 1 1/2 years that I've been taking Effexor. I had no idea why I was gaining and have become more depressed by the weight gain than I was initially. I changed doctors recently and was told it could cause weight gain. My question now, has anyone ever gone just COLD TURKEY? How long did it last and was it unbearable?
> > >
> > >
> > > > >I am on 75 mg. Effexor XR a day. I have gained
> > > > 20 lbs. I exercise like a demon and nothing comes
> > > > off. I hate it. Can't wear any of my clothes,
> > > > but I refuse to go out and buy more. Help. I'm
> > > > thinking seriously about going on St. John's Wort.
> > > > Anyone ever do this? Everything I read says they
> > > > don't know how to dose this kind of switch. Any info
> > > > would be greatly helpful.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Just got sample of Effexor XR. I've been on Paxil 20mg. for 1 yr. I feel great and my panic attacks are gone. BUT --- I keep gaining weight. I told my dr. to give me something else. Did anyone gain weight on this stuff? Does anyone use this for panic attacks. My dr. told me I could go right from Paxil to Effexor XR, stopping one and starting the other with no withdrawl symptoms. ANyone try it. Thanks for any input.
> > > > > >
> have been on Effexor XR and had the weight gain, also had tremmors. Tried St Johns Wart and with no results. Ready to give up.
Effexor-XR hasn't made me gain weight. Have been taking 375 mg/day (gradually increased from 37.5, of course) for nearly six months. The weight I've been unable to lose, I'm afraid I have to blame on the six glasses of Pepsi or other soft drinks I drink each day (with sugar). I feel more active, less depressed, more alert, and more alive, on Effexor-XR. Hope things go well for you!--Cindy W
Posted by Gerri_mww on June 12, 2000, at 1:14:42
In reply to Adults with ADHD, posted by Renee N on April 16, 2000, at 12:34:19
> Sara,
> Glad to hear from a fellow ADHD adult. Please let us know what you try and the results. Also, please feel free to come here to let off some steam. I know how frutrating ADHD symptoms can be! Renee NI am so glad to have so much information at my fingertips. I started Effexor SR about three weeks ago for ADHD (inattentive type). I noticed a difference right off the bat. I seemed more calmer than before. I was able to relax enough I found that I was more aware of motion. (was extreme at first, now is a more normal awareness) I noticed I no longer had the "need for speed" as in "lead-footed driver".
I also found I would need to take naps in the afternoon (which with the inattentive-type ADD was better than wanting to sleep all day like I was used to). I have noticed that my body is getting used to the dose (75 mg. SR) and I feel it is diminishing in it's effects (or the placebo effect I was getting). I am going to ask my MD to increase the level to 150mg in hopes that the serene feelings will return.
I also noted that it at least helped me to find a motivation to start getting my housework going after a year hiatis (sp)--which my kids appreciated..LOL.
I haven't experienced the "energy" everyone says starts after the naps end but am hoping (also the weight loss would be welcomed).Has been great to know what effects to expect and what is "normal" side-effects being that with the ADD I also get extreme panic attacks (which the effexor has completely stopped --but notice some inklings of their return (which also makes me think I need to increase the dosage for me).
Thanks for all the info everyone has contributed so far!
Gerri
Posted by KarenB on June 12, 2000, at 15:10:12
In reply to Re: Adults with ADHD, posted by Gerri_mww on June 12, 2000, at 1:14:42
Gerri,
Hi! I also have ADD, innattentive type with HYPOactivity (yawn...)and dysthymia (chronic, low-level depression). I am so glad that I now know what's been wrong all my life, it's just too bad it took so long to discover the real problem.
I am taking Adderall (20 mg before getting out of bed in the morning, then 10 mg five hours later) for energy and FOCUS, plus 10mg of Buspar, 3x per day for anxiety and low level depression. This combo is working much better than anything else has (in the States but that's a different story...) but I still feel that it could be better, so I continue my search.
There is a med being used for Narcolepsy that they are testing for use in ADD/ADHD patients, called modafinil (brand name Provigil). If you go back to the most recently archived board and look for a post called "somebody please help...," you'll find two posts from me with websites to check into if you are interested. Supposedly, it can increase motivation and focus as well as energy, without that "wired" feeling.
I tried Effexor as well and it just made me tired, like all SSRIs have. The only meds that have ever been effective at all for me are psychostimulants. From what I've read and what I've learned from my own personal experience, low Dopamine is the culprit with ADD, not low Seratonin. This is why Ritalin has been effective for so many, as it mimics Dopamine. Increasing Seratonin (like Effexor, Zoloft, Paxil, Serzone, etc. do) makes me sleepy and apathetic at best, grasping on for sanity at worst.
"Rick" mentioned a combo last week including Provigil, Klonopin (anxiety drug) and something else. From what I've heard, a low dose of Klonopin is very effective for anxiety.
Good luck and best of health to you.
Karen
Posted by Sara T on June 12, 2000, at 23:05:14
In reply to Re: Adults with ADHD, posted by Gerri_mww on June 12, 2000, at 1:14:42
> > Sara,
> > Glad to hear from a fellow ADHD adult. Please let us know what you try and the results. Also, please feel free to come here to let off some steam. I know how frutrating ADHD symptoms can be! Renee N
>
> I am so glad to have so much information at my fingertips. I started Effexor SR about three weeks ago for ADHD (inattentive type). I noticed a difference right off the bat. I seemed more calmer than before. I was able to relax enough I found that I was more aware of motion. (was extreme at first, now is a more normal awareness) I noticed I no longer had the "need for speed" as in "lead-footed driver".
> I also found I would need to take naps in the afternoon (which with the inattentive-type ADD was better than wanting to sleep all day like I was used to). I have noticed that my body is getting used to the dose (75 mg. SR) and I feel it is diminishing in it's effects (or the placebo effect I was getting). I am going to ask my MD to increase the level to 150mg in hopes that the serene feelings will return.
> I also noted that it at least helped me to find a motivation to start getting my housework going after a year hiatis (sp)--which my kids appreciated..LOL.
> I haven't experienced the "energy" everyone says starts after the naps end but am hoping (also the weight loss would be welcomed).
>
> Has been great to know what effects to expect and what is "normal" side-effects being that with the ADD I also get extreme panic attacks (which the effexor has completely stopped --but notice some inklings of their return (which also makes me think I need to increase the dosage for me).
>
> Thanks for all the info everyone has contributed so far!
> GerriGerri,
I also tried Effexor and I liked what it did. But my BP went up and although I don't think now that it was the culprit, I had to stop. I am now using Zoloft and Ritalin SR, which has been a good combo but I'm beginning to wonder if the Ritalin is losing effect. I have also been taking Melatonin for sleep, so maybe it is leaving me too groggy the next day and that is causing the Ritalin to not be so effective.
Anyway, from one ADDer to another, glad to here what's working for you. Hope you have continued success.
Sara T.
Posted by Kelli on June 15, 2000, at 1:06:59
In reply to Re: withdrawal, posted by jeanette on April 14, 2000, at 6:58:11
Please help.I've had so many problems since I've stopped taking effexor.I took my last pill of 37.5 five days ago and I've had such a hard week. My symptoms are dizziness, irritability and kind of feeling like I'm not here. Does anyone understand? I'm praying that it is the withdrawal effects and not the fact that I really "need" the medicine. I have been so afraid that now I'm really going crazy. It's so scary.I don't know what to do.I would have never had taken this drug if I had known about how it would make me feel when I got off of it.
Posted by harry b. on June 15, 2000, at 8:29:16
In reply to Re: withdrawal, posted by Kelli on June 15, 2000, at 1:06:59
> Please help.I've had so many problems since I've stopped taking effexor.I took my last pill of 37.5 five days ago and I've had such a hard week. My symptoms are dizziness, irritability and kind of feeling like I'm not here. Does anyone understand? I'm praying that it is the withdrawal effects and not the fact that I really "need" the medicine. I have been so afraid that now I'm really going crazy. It's so scary.I don't know what to do.I would have never had taken this drug if I had known about how it would make me feel when I got off of it.
Kelli-
It sounds like you may have quit too suddenly. Did
you taper off it gradually? Can you ask your doc
for more? Ask him if he has any samples of it. At
least talk to your doc about it.
hb
Posted by claire 7 on June 15, 2000, at 10:28:43
In reply to Re: withdrawal, posted by Kelli on June 15, 2000, at 1:06:59
These sound like normal withdrawal symptoms. You're NOT going crazy. And the symptoms WILL go away. But stopping at 37.5 seems too abrupt to me. Try splitting that in half again for a week or so, then taking that amount (18mg approx) every other day for another week. You may still have withdrawal symptoms, but they won't be as severe. And they will eventually go away. Good luck.
Posted by Lee on June 16, 2000, at 12:58:37
In reply to Re: withdrawal, posted by Cam W. on April 12, 2000, at 19:27:33
I absolutely cannot believe what I have just spent the last hour reading. By some freak accident or I would prefer to say Godsend I came across the info posted here on Effexor. I was on Prozac for five years and it pooped out on me. I was switched to Effexor and gradually worked up to 150 mg. a day only to feel worse than I did on Prozac. My doctor increased my dose by 75 mg. and I still felt no change. I then worked up to 300 mg. and from there my life fell part with more depression and side effects than I could bear. I really thought I was having a nervous breakdown. My legs jerked, I had dizziness, couldn't sleep, electrical shocks in my head , strange sensations when I moved my head, nausea, hot sweats that had me hanging over the toilet and literally falling apart at the least little thing. Needless to say my doctor has been weaning me off of it for three weeks and I am down to 37.5 mg. and I am more dizzy and have headaches like I can't describe. I surely was never informed of the withdrawal symptooms and had decide until today that there was more wrong with me like a brain tumor or something since I was getting worse instead of better. I am starting the Prozac with the Effexor today. I am so relieved to understand what is really wrong and am quite angry that this is not addressed in the indications that accompany the medicine. I would never have started this if I had known. My only fear now is where will I go from here since I need to be on something. I hope the Prozac will go back and do its thing for me since I am quite paranoid to try anything else.
Posted by Karin on June 16, 2000, at 19:44:51
In reply to Re: withdrawal, posted by Lee on June 16, 2000, at 12:58:37
electrical shocks in my head , strange sensations when I moved my head
I took my last Effexor XR last Saturday as well as the Wellbutrin that I'm switching too. By Monday, I was dizzy, ready to pass out, with a buzzing in my head. After a day or two, I managed down to dizziness with these annoying "zeep, zeep" noises in my head every few minutes or more. It's like hearing the pulse of my heart in my head. Is this what you are refering too when you say "electrical shocks". Does anyone know how long they last?
Thanks--
Karin
Posted by Lee on June 18, 2000, at 17:13:17
In reply to Re: withdrawal, posted by Karin on June 16, 2000, at 19:44:51
> electrical shocks in my head , strange sensations when I moved my head
>
> I took my last Effexor XR last Saturday as well as the Wellbutrin that I'm switching too. By Monday, I was dizzy, ready to pass out, with a buzzing in my head. After a day or two, I managed down to dizziness with these annoying "zeep, zeep" noises in my head every few minutes or more. It's like hearing the pulse of my heart in my head. Is this what you are refering too when you say "electrical shocks". Does anyone know how long they last?
>
> Thanks--
> KarinYou have described the withdrawal sy;mptoms beautifully. I am on day four of no Effexor and I feel like I am going nuts. The buzzing is almost unbearable at times and then it won't be so bad. It is especially worse when I am moving around. The other part is that now nausea has started and nothing really taste good . I am finding myself in these crying spells for no reason and then I am fine. I am supposed to be switching over to Prozac again but don't want to put another pill in my mouth until this withdrawal stuff stops. From other responses, I am getting the idea it takes two weeks for this to stop. I am so angry that these side effects were not listed in anything from the cmpany that made this disgusting pill. Not only did it make me worse than I was before I switched to it but to get it out of my system I have to put up with this. I thought this would be easing up just a little since I have been without it for four days but I guess not. I wish I had a good lawyer who could help me get the pharmacutical for the nightmare I have been through for six weeks. I guess we have to do what they call "hang in there."
Posted by Jonathan on June 19, 2000, at 5:36:38
In reply to Re: withdrawal, posted by Lee on June 18, 2000, at 17:13:17
> I am supposed to be switching over to Prozac again but don't want to put another pill in my mouth until this withdrawal stuff stops. From other responses, I am getting the idea it takes two weeks for this to stop. I am so angry that these side effects were not listed in anything from the cmpany that made this disgusting pill. Not only did it make me worse than I was before I switched to it but to get it out of my system I have to put up with this. I thought this would be easing up just a little since I have been without it for four days but I guess not. I wish I had a good lawyer who could help me get the pharmacutical for the nightmare I have been through for six weeks. I guess we have to do what they call "hang in there."
Lee,
I understand you not wishing to start any new medication yet, but Prozac is probably the best drug there is for alleviating Effexor withdrawal symptoms.
Since you're planning to switch to Prozac anyway, you'll feel better much faster if you start taking the Prozac immediately.
I hope it does help you to get over the Effexor soon: I went through the same a few weeks ago and it was vile.Good luck,
Jonathan.
Posted by Cindy W on June 19, 2000, at 9:00:40
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR? , posted by Noa on October 24, 1999, at 18:36:00
> I take effexor xr. Currently on 375 mg. It works better for me than Paxil or Prozac or Wellbutrin, although actually what I mean is that it works without as many negative effects. But there are some. It is activating for me, so sleep is hard. also, I am fidgety at this dose, and have some tics when sleepy, or just when waking up. I was on a much lower dose for a long time, and then got REALLY depressed. I think the lower dose was insufficient and I was struggling with ongoing depression. Then, some major stress, and I really hit bottom (I hope it is really bottom, cuz I wouldn't want to go longer). Then I increased the dose a bit, and started to take serzone as an augmentor, and also as a sleep aid (I had been taking a small dose of trazodone as a sleep aid, but its effectiveness was wearing off). I also take ritalin 3x/day, and synthroid and cytomel ( I tested as hypothyroid), all to augment the effexor. I personlly have liked the xr version of effexor much more than the regular. One dose is always easier, but it also seems to cause less sleep problems and motor twitches, and also much less sweating , which was a major hassle on the regular effexor. ALso, when I ws on higher doses of regular effexor, I would come close to fainting when I stood up or when I laughed real hard. That doesn't happen on the xr version. Hope this helps. OF course, keep in mind that every individual's experience is different. BTW, I only take one dose of serzone--150 mg. in the late afternoon/early evening. It helps me sleep, and the sedation wears off enough by wake up time in the am. If I had to take it in the morning, I think I would also find it too sedating. It is, however, less sedating than trazodone, which had a shorter term effect, but was very intensely sedating for me.
Noa, I'm so glad to see you're back! Also glad to hear you're doing well. Am also taking Effexor-XR 375 mg/day, and it seems to really help. Also, I take Serzone 50 mg/night to help me sleep. Best wishes!
Posted by Cindy W on June 19, 2000, at 9:09:30
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR? , posted by Cindy W on June 19, 2000, at 9:00:40
> > I take effexor xr. Currently on 375 mg. It works better for me than Paxil or Prozac or Wellbutrin, although actually what I mean is that it works without as many negative effects. But there are some. It is activating for me, so sleep is hard. also, I am fidgety at this dose, and have some tics when sleepy, or just when waking up. I was on a much lower dose for a long time, and then got REALLY depressed. I think the lower dose was insufficient and I was struggling with ongoing depression. Then, some major stress, and I really hit bottom (I hope it is really bottom, cuz I wouldn't want to go longer). Then I increased the dose a bit, and started to take serzone as an augmentor, and also as a sleep aid (I had been taking a small dose of trazodone as a sleep aid, but its effectiveness was wearing off). I also take ritalin 3x/day, and synthroid and cytomel ( I tested as hypothyroid), all to augment the effexor. I personlly have liked the xr version of effexor much more than the regular. One dose is always easier, but it also seems to cause less sleep problems and motor twitches, and also much less sweating , which was a major hassle on the regular effexor. ALso, when I ws on higher doses of regular effexor, I would come close to fainting when I stood up or when I laughed real hard. That doesn't happen on the xr version. Hope this helps. OF course, keep in mind that every individual's experience is different. BTW, I only take one dose of serzone--150 mg. in the late afternoon/early evening. It helps me sleep, and the sedation wears off enough by wake up time in the am. If I had to take it in the morning, I think I would also find it too sedating. It is, however, less sedating than trazodone, which had a shorter term effect, but was very intensely sedating for me.
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> Noa, I'm so glad to see you're back! Also glad to hear you're doing well. Am also taking Effexor-XR 375 mg/day, and it seems to really help. Also, I take Serzone 50 mg/night to help me sleep. Best wishes!Twilight Zone time! I just posted a reply to what I thought was Noa's current post (but checking back, it looks like she posted in l0/99). ??? I thought it was one of the few new posts listed. Am I "out there" or what?
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