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Posted by NikkiT on May 30, 2000, at 11:45:30
OK, so just me again...
Been reading here and archives, and it seems that Effexor has bad withdrawal and should be weaned off. Yet again, I've been told to just stop, and cold turkey. What the hell is wrong with doctors in the UK. I was on 225mg of Effexor XR, and pdoc said "don't take any more, and tomorrow night start the new tablets (serzone) but you need to build to dose up remember..." So he is worried about weaning me ONTO a drug, but not off???
Gggggggggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. I am just SO fed up with the medical profession right now.
I was even told it was "quite inconvienient" for the Pharmacist to sort my drugs this morning, as she would be late for lunch!!!!Sorry... just rambling again
Posted by Noa on May 30, 2000, at 13:13:39
In reply to *^$%*^%$$% Docs..., posted by NikkiT on May 30, 2000, at 11:45:30
Nikki, your grumbles are well founded. Unfortunately, it is all too common for docs to say there are no withdrawal symptoms for effexor, perhaps because the drug monograph makes that claim. However, some patients do experience wd symptoms, and some docs have learned through clinical experience to respect their patients' reports. Perhaps nobody has reported this to your doc yet.
Posted by NikkiT on May 30, 2000, at 15:19:20
In reply to Re: *^$%*^%$$% Docs..., posted by Noa on May 30, 2000, at 13:13:39
Sorry about all this - Think I went a bit manic and stuff this afternoon.
I just felt angry as the same was said to me when coming off Paxil, and this time I simply can't risk taking yet more time off work.
Gonna stick the serzone out.. Some decent sleep should really help, and you're right, fighting the ear infection is also getting to me. I should also learn to control my anger. THe problem is, I have been feeling so low recently, that any other feeling seems to be good, and I grab onto it, sometimes taking it over the top.
Certainly feeling much brighter this evening though.
thanks.. ~smile~
Posted by Todd on May 30, 2000, at 17:18:51
In reply to calmed down!!, posted by NikkiT on May 30, 2000, at 15:19:20
Hi, Nikki. I've never written to you before, but I have been keeping up with your posts. I was more than a bit concerned a week or two ago, but everything I might have offered was pretty much covered by everyone else. So you see, the people who care about you very much number more than just the ones who respond to your posts. What a great thought!
Anyway, I just wanted to say "great work!" You seem so much better now than you did two weeks ago, and I am smiling to see you alive and kicking. It comes right through in your posts, and I am sure most of us are breathing easier for you now. You mentioned that you were getting a bit angry with your pdoc...I say "way to go!" Ain't nothing wrong with that! That's a very healthy sign. Sure, maybe you need to control it, but that is not to say you should deny it or tell yourself that it is wrong to be angry. Being angry is as natural as being happy. Of course, if you have no outlet for it, it can be a bit of a pain. I suggest the following - When you're driving back from your pdoc appointment, roll up all the windows and scream at the top of your lungs! Or if you want to make it fun, leave the windows down and do it at a stop sign! Just never ever ever tell yourself that you shouldn't be angry. Sending you lots of love on your road to healing.
Posted by Noa on May 30, 2000, at 19:06:07
In reply to Your anger is Fine!, posted by Todd on May 30, 2000, at 17:18:51
Sometimes anger can be mobilizing, and can pull you out of the depression.
Have to manage it, though, so it doesn't bring on more problems.
Keep us posted, Nikki.
Posted by stjames on May 30, 2000, at 23:19:27
In reply to *^$%*^%$$% Docs..., posted by NikkiT on May 30, 2000, at 11:45:30
> OK, so just me again...
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> Been reading here and archives, and it seems that Effexor has bad withdrawal and should be weaned off. Yet again, I've been told to just stop, and cold turkeyJames here...
The pre marketing studies on this med did not turn up Effexor's W/D effects and need for slow taper. We all know about it here and docs who perscribe it a lot do. I suspect your doc has not used Effexor a lot so he does not know this. Educate him/her!
james
Posted by NikkiT on May 31, 2000, at 5:20:08
In reply to Your anger is Fine!, posted by Todd on May 30, 2000, at 17:18:51
*giggling* I get the bus! think I might scare people by screaming on the bus!!
Actually, I read our local news paper last night, and my nearest Park (which happens, in my opinion, to be Londons nicest park) is setting up a "loud" area, for screaming and the such! This is going to be in the modern sculpture area! Cool idea for us needing to scream in my opinion!!!
> Hi, Nikki. I've never written to you before, but I have been keeping up with your posts. I was more than a bit concerned a week or two ago, but everything I might have offered was pretty much covered by everyone else. So you see, the people who care about you very much number more than just the ones who respond to your posts. What a great thought!
>
> Anyway, I just wanted to say "great work!" You seem so much better now than you did two weeks ago, and I am smiling to see you alive and kicking. It comes right through in your posts, and I am sure most of us are breathing easier for you now. You mentioned that you were getting a bit angry with your pdoc...I say "way to go!" Ain't nothing wrong with that! That's a very healthy sign. Sure, maybe you need to control it, but that is not to say you should deny it or tell yourself that it is wrong to be angry. Being angry is as natural as being happy. Of course, if you have no outlet for it, it can be a bit of a pain. I suggest the following - When you're driving back from your pdoc appointment, roll up all the windows and scream at the top of your lungs! Or if you want to make it fun, leave the windows down and do it at a stop sign! Just never ever ever tell yourself that you shouldn't be angry. Sending you lots of love on your road to healing.
Posted by NikkiT on May 31, 2000, at 5:29:23
In reply to *^$%*^%$$% Docs..., posted by NikkiT on May 30, 2000, at 11:45:30
I feel better than I have done in ages today! I took a sleeping pill last night, so slept a vaguely decent nights sleep. THe pain killers are finally taking the edge of the ear infection,and the anti biotics are obviously kicking in... The sun is shining here (a first for quite a few weeks!) and I tookt he long route to work just to be able to enjoy wlaking in the sunshine (I don't do walking when I don't ahve to, so this is strange in itself!!). I've even put on makeup for the first time in a couple of months, and bought a gorgeous necklace on my way into the office!
I feel bright, I feel postive, and I'm even *shock horror*... Smiling!
I so HOPE this feeling continues...
Tina - I'm sending out some of these vibes to you, in a hope that you'll catch them and that will help you. And to you Noa to help you worry. And hey, I feel so damned good, anyonme else want some of my vibes sent out while I'm at it??
Posted by Abby on May 31, 2000, at 13:43:04
In reply to call me Manic.. But, posted by NikkiT on May 31, 2000, at 5:29:23
Nikki,
Just a thought since you mentioned that you're in London. London probably has more private psychiatrists than anywhere. (I think there might be two in Oxford.) So if you have some money, consider going over to Harley Street, if you get really fed p with your current one.
Abby
Posted by NikkiT on May 31, 2000, at 14:46:56
In reply to Yay Nikki, posted by Abby on May 31, 2000, at 13:43:04
if only i could afford that!! I actually have private medical insurance, but lo and behold.. they don't cover psychiatric illness or care. Great eh? It's great to be able to go private for "medical" reasons (our local hospitals private wing is wonderful!!), but they don't class mental illness as something that requires there help!!!
But, things as they are, mainly caused by how damned much it costs to live in this city, theres no way in the near future I'll be bale to afford private! plus, did you know most still won't see you without a direct referral?
Not so happy now... email at end of day telling me exactly how crap I am from a colleague - and just about every point was un founded... I tried to get the upper hand by repliying to the points, and where she was wrong, and copied it to my manager!
Ho hum, another day gone.
Nikki
Posted by Noa on May 31, 2000, at 15:20:17
In reply to Money money money!!! » Abby, posted by NikkiT on May 31, 2000, at 14:46:56
Consider using private psychiatrist as a consult, one who has lots of experience with the symptoms you have and the meds you are working with, with the consultant providing input to the regular psychiatrist. That way, you could see the private one just infrequently, and feel some reassurance from the second opinion.
Posted by NikkiT on June 1, 2000, at 5:28:12
In reply to *^$%*^%$$% Docs..., posted by NikkiT on May 30, 2000, at 11:45:30
We're still talking over $200 to be able to see one in London... Think £135 an hour was the cheapest of the ones I've looked at. Right now U have no money to spare what so ever (I hate June... so full of birthdays and weddings).. And turning up to my cousins wedding to say "Hi, I'd have liked to get you a present, but I decided to see a shrink instead" would be met with... erm... well, you can well imagine!! And credit card is heading very quickly to maxed out again!
Posted by Kath on June 1, 2000, at 9:17:36
In reply to Re: Your anger is Fine!, posted by Noa on May 30, 2000, at 19:06:07
> Sometimes anger can be mobilizing, and can pull you out of the depression.
>
> Have to manage it, though, so it doesn't bring on more problems.
>
> Keep us posted, Nikki.
..................I've heard it said that depression is anger turned inwards. Sometimes if I feel crappy & can really get in touch with what it's about, I realize that I AM angry or feel helpless about a situation.
Kath
Posted by kady on June 2, 2000, at 20:17:12
In reply to Re: Your anger is Fine!, posted by Kath on June 1, 2000, at 9:17:36
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> ..................
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> I've heard it said that depression is anger turned inwards. Sometimes if I feel crappy & can really get in touch with what it's about, I realize that I AM angry or feel helpless about a situation.
> KathI was told that by a counselor. For me, she was right. When I finally get outwardly angry I feel very relieved and self assured. I don't like to upset anyone or look like an ass, but I find that before I blow up, I have thought quite abit about what I am angry with and I let it out!
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