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Posted by Tina1 on May 28, 2000, at 19:38:11
I'm sure we have all noticed quite a few new names on this board recently. I just wanted to welcome all of you and tell you how much courage it takes to share your pain with complete strangers. I applaud your strength and trust and I hope we can share more in the future. Take care all of you and thank you.
Posted by Waynette on May 28, 2000, at 21:52:09
In reply to Welcome New People, posted by Tina1 on May 28, 2000, at 19:38:11
I was wandering if new people were welcomed
or if I had intruded on a private link
although I have got a lot of info from each
of you my question goes unanswered
Thanks
Posted by medlib on May 29, 2000, at 4:33:57
In reply to Re: Welcome New People-Tinal, posted by Waynette on May 28, 2000, at 21:52:09
>
> I was wandering if new people were welcomed
> or if I had intruded on a private link
> although I have got a lot of info from each
> of you my question goes unanswered
> Thanks
------------------Waynette--
What question? The only posts I found from you besides this one were 2 near the top of this board about your daughter. Cam W. (our resident pharmacist) replied to your first post, and your second post described some of your daughter's current med profile but did not ask a question. Did I miss something?
Some general info about Babbleland from my perspective (I've been here 6 months):
--Like every other place where people gather, it takes awhile to get to know others; initially I felt like I was eavesdropping on a private conversation, so I just read for several weeks before I got up the nerve to post. At first it felt like "butting in". After some time, I began to identify individuals whose posts interested me or with whom I felt some similarities, or connection. I try to read all of their posts, regardless of topic. Other times, the subject of specific threads interests me; I'll read nearly everyone's contribution to those. Still other times a poster will ask a question I'm able to answer or find out about; to other questions, I have nothing to offer.
--This board seems to be experiencing some growing pains. I'm a fast reader but there are now far too many posts in too short a time for me to read them all--and I already spend *way* too much time here. All of us must limit our participation in some fashion.
--We are very fortunate to have Cam W. on this board, but he's told us he's experiencing heavy professional demands right now, and temporarily cannot give us as much time as he has in the past.
He will contribute short answers and brief comments as he has time.--A few of us have professional expertise in biochemistry, nursing, psychology, etc. A number of us have worked hard to educate ourselves on our conditions; but we do not, individually or collectively, constitute a professional resource. All of us can offer our experiences, our interest, our opinions and our caring support; but no one can rely on this board to provide professional advice or expertise.
So, welcome! Give us a little time, and you will feel like a "we."
I *can* offer my reaction to your second post:
--Your daughter's weight gain may be affected not only by her meds, but also by the relative immobility imposed by her JRA; her daily caloric expenditure is probably far less than the average for her age.
--If the doc who recommended the med changes is just a temporary fill-in for a physician who will return, I believe that I would hold off on making major changes until her regular doc comes back. She's taking quite a number of heavy-duty drugs; changes should be evaluated carefully by someone familiar with your daughter, not just her med history. And those changes should be explained to and discussed with you and her. Given the complexity of your daughter's medical condition and treatment, a 2nd (consulting) opinion might be helpful.
Well wishes---medlib
Posted by shar on May 29, 2000, at 12:47:56
In reply to Re: Unanswered question?, posted by medlib on May 29, 2000, at 4:33:57
Well, yes, you could do it medlib's way, genteel, informed, sensitive, helpful....most admirable.
Or, you could do it my way -- burst in, step on everyone's toes, offend the others, offer stupid advice, go off on tangents, and be perceived as a nattering pain in the neck...
The BIG plus (at least for me) is that the people on this board are kind enough that they are still accepting of you, answer questions, and don't request you be driven off (as far as I know).
I say, test the water, or jump in, or find your own way in...but don't be afraid to join in.
S
Posted by Tina1 on May 29, 2000, at 13:45:06
In reply to Re: Unanswered question?, posted by medlib on May 29, 2000, at 4:33:57
I'm sorry again. I didn't mean to make it sound like this was a personal board with a few regulars who don't welcome new people or that this board was OURS or belonged to anyone at all. It belongs to Dr bob. I just was reading some of the new posts by the new people and some seemed a bit timid and uncomfortable. This was my way of opening a door maybe. Screwed up again, I apologize. I've only been here a month so I guess I should keep my big mouth shut.> >
> >
I was wandering if new people were welcomed
> > or if I had intruded on a private link
> > although I have got a lot of info from each
> > of you my question goes unanswered
> > Thanks
> ------------------
>
> Waynette--
>
> What question? The only posts I found from you besides this one were 2 near the top of this board about your daughter. Cam W. (our resident pharmacist) replied to your first post, and your second post described some of your daughter's current med profile but did not ask a question. Did I miss something?
>
> Some general info about Babbleland from my perspective (I've been here 6 months):
>
> --Like every other place where people gather, it takes awhile to get to know others; initially I felt like I was eavesdropping on a private conversation, so I just read for several weeks before I got up the nerve to post. At first it felt like "butting in". After some time, I began to identify individuals whose posts interested me or with whom I felt some similarities, or connection. I try to read all of their posts, regardless of topic. Other times, the subject of specific threads interests me; I'll read nearly everyone's contribution to those. Still other times a poster will ask a question I'm able to answer or find out about; to other questions, I have nothing to offer.
>
> --This board seems to be experiencing some growing pains. I'm a fast reader but there are now far too many posts in too short a time for me to read them all--and I already spend *way* too much time here. All of us must limit our participation in some fashion.
>
> --We are very fortunate to have Cam W. on this board, but he's told us he's experiencing heavy professional demands right now, and temporarily cannot give us as much time as he has in the past.
> He will contribute short answers and brief comments as he has time.
>
> --A few of us have professional expertise in biochemistry, nursing, psychology, etc. A number of us have worked hard to educate ourselves on our conditions; but we do not, individually or collectively, constitute a professional resource. All of us can offer our experiences, our interest, our opinions and our caring support; but no one can rely on this board to provide professional advice or expertise.
>
> So, welcome! Give us a little time, and you will feel like a "we."
>
> I *can* offer my reaction to your second post:
>
> --Your daughter's weight gain may be affected not only by her meds, but also by the relative immobility imposed by her JRA; her daily caloric expenditure is probably far less than the average for her age.
>
> --If the doc who recommended the med changes is just a temporary fill-in for a physician who will return, I believe that I would hold off on making major changes until her regular doc comes back. She's taking quite a number of heavy-duty drugs; changes should be evaluated carefully by someone familiar with your daughter, not just her med history. And those changes should be explained to and discussed with you and her. Given the complexity of your daughter's medical condition and treatment, a 2nd (consulting) opinion might be helpful.
>
> Well wishes---medlib
Posted by Cam W. on May 29, 2000, at 14:21:52
In reply to Re: Welcome New People-Tinal, posted by Waynette on May 28, 2000, at 21:52:09
Waynette - I'm sorry, I didn't realize that your post (at the top of the page) was more questions. You have to be specific. We do not know why there are wholesale changes being made with your daughter's medication regimen in the absense of her regular physician. We also do not want to step on the toes of a doctor who knows your daughter's situation far more intimately than we do (or ever will). We are here to help with side effects and such, but I do not think that any of us are very good diagnosticians (at least not us regular contributors). Please, ask a direct question and I will try my best to answer it. I am going on vacation for 2 weeks starting next Sunday, so I have been very busy trying to catch up with my extra duties (learning pediatric and geriatric psychopharmacology - self learned crash course), the strike by our nurses and support staff (they've come back -hurrah!) and settling last minute problems with my clients, before I leave. Recently, I have just been skimming posts here and not paying complete attention.Sincerely - Cam
P.S. To the regulars - My geriatrics is up-to-date; so bob, I can help you now ;^)
Posted by Sara T on May 29, 2000, at 16:32:03
In reply to Welcome New People, posted by Tina1 on May 28, 2000, at 19:38:11
> I'm sure we have all noticed quite a few new names on this board recently. I just wanted to welcome all of you and tell you how much courage it takes to share your pain with complete strangers. I applaud your strength and trust and I hope we can share more in the future. Take care all of you and thank you.
Tinal -
I posted this before but it didn't show up. I wanted to thank you for extending a welcome. I haven't been posting to this board for long but I'm fast getting addicted. I have learned a great deal from all of you and for the most part my questions have been answered. I hope in some small way I'll be able to contribute to the discussions too.Sara T.
Posted by Jennifer on May 30, 2000, at 1:57:52
In reply to Re: Welcome New People, posted by Sara T on May 29, 2000, at 16:32:03
I'm a new name on the board, and it's nice to be welcomed. It was quite obvious to me, and I'm sure others who are new to the site, that you all know each other quite well. It does seem a bit odd; like you are at a party of a friend of a friend. You "hear" everyone talking...and from your year's of psycho crud, you have your own opinion, but you feel a bit awkward speaking up. I know my first try at inputs here have been very "unemotional". How can you be emotional with a group of people you have just come in contact with? It does make you feel comfortable reading threads that are exactly what you've been through though. However, it does sort of feel like you are reading someone else's mail.
How often do most of you check in? I could tell be the submissions that there are some of you in Europe and Australia (yes Aussie, the Sierra's are part of the Sierra Nevada Mountain Range here on the California/Nevada border in Northern California).
I seemed with some that were at a critical point with their meds, someone had to check in that night, or they would be greatly dissappointed.
I told my husband about this site. Even read to him a few of the threads he would "understand. He thinks I'm even more psycho getting on a chat line with others regarding my psych condition (he is, though, extremely supportive). Whatever it takes to make me feel better. Glad to be able to read about others who can understand what I mean by depressed, or why I would want to die during a panic attack (ok, that was a bit more open).
Since most of you are familiar with each other...obvious since you send messages to specific people on the board, perhaps you could keep and eye out for a new name. Kind of like a handshake when you go to that party of a friend of a friend. Thanks in advance for being supportive! Jennifer
> > I'm sure we have all noticed quite a few new names on this board recently. I just wanted to welcome all of you and tell you how much courage it takes to share your pain with complete strangers. I applaud your strength and trust and I hope we can share more in the future. Take care all of you and thank you.
>
> Tinal -
> I posted this before but it didn't show up. I wanted to thank you for extending a welcome. I haven't been posting to this board for long but I'm fast getting addicted. I have learned a great deal from all of you and for the most part my questions have been answered. I hope in some small way I'll be able to contribute to the discussions too.
>
> Sara T.
Posted by medlib on May 30, 2000, at 4:35:28
In reply to W'Nette and Med: About joining in the discussion, posted by shar on May 29, 2000, at 12:47:56
Shar--
You made my middle-of-the-night! Hey, guys, look! I finally made it to "Sensitive"--at least once! Noa is sensitive--also direct, kind and succinct. But, every time I try to achieve that, I trip over my own verbiage and "step in it"--with agonizing regularity. Then I have to post again to try to apologize and/or clarify.
But, you're right; this board is amazingly tolerant--they let me blather on without complaint; most regulars have learned simply to ignore me--and anything else they don't like. That's easier in cyberspace.
Mark H. is another poster who often has perceptive, wise things to say. Before he left on vacation, he mentioned that recently he had been trying to post less so he could focus on listening better. Whenever I have a rare episode of common sense, I try that, too.
Most of what I've learned here has not been what I came here to find out more about (psych drugs). Most of it has been about me. Now, if I just could figure out how to transfer some of that to the behavioral level........Suggestions, folks? Any and all welcomed--sensitive, or not.
medlib---BTW, I value therapy, and would be in a group if I had funds left after paying for pdoc and meds (no insurance). Thanks to Dr. Bob for making available a very good virtual alternative!
> Well, yes, you could do it medlib's way, genteel, informed, sensitive, helpful....most admirable.
>
> Or, you could do it my way -- burst in, step on everyone's toes, offend the others, offer stupid advice, go off on tangents, and be perceived as a nattering pain in the neck...
>
> The BIG plus (at least for me) is that the people on this board are kind enough that they are still accepting of you, answer questions, and don't request you be driven off (as far as I know).
>
> I say, test the water, or jump in, or find your own way in...but don't be afraid to join in.
>
> S
Posted by ChrisK on May 30, 2000, at 6:15:16
In reply to From a new person, posted by Jennifer on May 30, 2000, at 1:57:52
Jennifer,
Like anyplace else on the web some people check in here 10 times a day while others like me usually check in once per day. I'm generally here early in the morning and go through the previous day's posts. I try only to post about things I have experienced as far as meds go.
A lot of people have posted about their history with meds and their mental illness. I've only been here about 6-8 months but I know many of the backgrounds of people here just from their posts. It takes a little time here to catch up but you will find a kindred spirit sometime soon. I gaurantee that someone else has been where you are and you will start to read all of their posts.
Welcome aboard and don't be afraid to speak up when you have a question or better yet an answer.
Chris
Posted by Noa on May 30, 2000, at 18:31:08
In reply to Re: Unanswered question?, posted by medlib on May 29, 2000, at 4:33:57
Waynett, welcome. Yes, you did have a question at the top of the page, and I think I responded, but why don't you repeat it in a new thread. Thing is, it has gotten so busy here that it is easy to lose track.
Posted by Noa on May 30, 2000, at 18:39:46
In reply to Re: From a new person, posted by ChrisK on May 30, 2000, at 6:15:16
Jennifer, I check in anywhere from several times a day to once every two or three. I used to be on all the time, and felt addicted. When circumstances came together that left me without internet service at home, I decided to not renew it, and now I use the internet at work and at the library. This makes me have to be more efficient and less glued.
It has gotten so busy here the last few months, though, that it is hard to keep up with reading everything, let alone responding. I think the volume also has affected my reaching out to new people, too. It is easier for new people to get lost in the shuffle with this much action. But thanks for speaking up about it!
Medlib, I am flattered by what you said about me, but dismayed at your self-deprecation. You are quite articulate and full of information, and perhaps I have been too reticent in acknowledging how much I learn from you.
Jennifer, you should also know that it might seem to a newcomer that some of us are old pals, some of us have only started connecting at this level recently.
Posted by Kath on May 31, 2000, at 8:27:00
In reply to From a new person, posted by Jennifer on May 30, 2000, at 1:57:52
Hi - I'm a new person too & I feel sort of like I'm butting in, but I guess it takes a little while to feel more comfortable, just like it does "in person" meeting new people. So far, after a few days, I feel safe & supported.
Take care,
Kath
Posted by Kath on May 31, 2000, at 8:34:12
In reply to Re: From a new person - To Jennifer, posted by Kath on May 31, 2000, at 8:27:00
Could someone please tell me the address of this site? I'm not terribly Internet-smart & I get here through Copernick 2000 (a sort of multiple search engine thing). I'm afraid that if for some reason this site doesn't come up on Copernick 2000, I won't be able to find it again.
Posted by ChrisK on May 31, 2000, at 8:41:34
In reply to Help needed re: address of this site, posted by Kath on May 31, 2000, at 8:34:12
Kath,
Put this on your favorites list or Bookmarks.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/
Keep coming back
Posted by Kath on May 31, 2000, at 12:24:34
In reply to Kath, Address, posted by ChrisK on May 31, 2000, at 8:41:34
> Kath,
>
> Put this on your favorites list or Bookmarks.
>
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/
>
> Keep coming back....................
Thanks very much for the quick reply!! I definitely will keep coming back. Kath
Posted by Kellie on May 31, 2000, at 17:15:59
In reply to Welcome New People, posted by Tina1 on May 28, 2000, at 19:38:11
> I'm sure we have all noticed quite a few new names on this board recently. I just wanted to welcome all of you and tell you how much courage it takes to share your pain with complete strangers. I applaud your strength and trust and I hope we can share more in the future. Take care all of you and thank you.
Thanks for the welcome.I came online a few days ago and have been welcomed by several people. I'm very nervous about writing but I have a tendancy to jump in anytime I get a bug in my brain, so just ignore me if I get too pushy or anything.
Kellie
Posted by Deb R on May 31, 2000, at 20:08:39
In reply to From a new person, posted by Jennifer on May 30, 2000, at 1:57:52
>you in Europe and Australia (yes Aussie, the Sierra's are part of the Sierra Nevada Mountain Range here on the California/Nevada border in Northern California).
Jennifer,
The Sierras sound delightful - I have found out some info from a book we have here at home and I have added it to the many places I would like to visit one of these days! Lotto needed badly!
Best wishes to you,
Deb.
Posted by Jennifer on June 1, 2000, at 4:06:49
In reply to Re: From a new person - To Jennifer, posted by Kath on May 31, 2000, at 8:27:00
Kath, I agree. Welcome to you too, since we're the new kids on the thread! Take care, Jennifer
> Hi - I'm a new person too & I feel sort of like I'm butting in, but I guess it takes a little while to feel more comfortable, just like it does "in person" meeting new people. So far, after a few days, I feel safe & supported.
>
> Take care,
>
> Kath
Posted by Jennifer on June 1, 2000, at 4:12:32
In reply to to Jennifer..., posted by Deb R on May 31, 2000, at 20:08:39
Deb, The Sierra's are delightful..I use to live a stones-throw away years ago. Lotto though? Would be nice, but my investments do better than -
negative 75% per transaction! Although our stock market has been that bad at times lately! I'll watch for your "On Vacation" post. :.) Jennifer> >you in Europe and Australia (yes Aussie, the Sierra's are part of the Sierra Nevada Mountain Range here on the California/Nevada border in Northern California).
>
> Jennifer,
> The Sierras sound delightful - I have found out some info from a book we have here at home and I have added it to the many places I would like to visit one of these days! Lotto needed badly!
> Best wishes to you,
> Deb.
Posted by Kath on June 1, 2000, at 8:06:57
In reply to Re: Another new person, posted by Kellie on May 31, 2000, at 17:15:59
Hi Kellie - I'm a few days new also. It's nice to know of a few people who have arrived about the same time. Take care.
Kath
Posted by Kath on June 1, 2000, at 8:15:08
In reply to Re: back to Deb R...., posted by Jennifer on June 1, 2000, at 4:12:32
Hi Jennifer - I haven't been to the Sierra's, but a few summers ago my husband, 2 kids & I travelled from Canada to California for a camping holiday & enjoyed it immensely. We drove up that winding, sea-overlooking road from SanFrancisco to Salt Point, which I particularly loved. Then we drove back down to Andrew Molera State Park area & Big Sur & area & visited various beautiful places all in between. My husband & I especially loved hiking at Andrew Molera. I LOVE California!!
Hope you are doing well. Kath
Posted by Deb R on June 2, 2000, at 4:50:16
In reply to Re: back to Deb R - To Jennifer, posted by Kath on June 1, 2000, at 8:15:08
Guess what I discovered....tho I am sure you guys know this already: according to my Fodor's book on California a Yosemite-type valley is U-shaped...then I remembered good old "Yosemite Sam's" (of Bugs Bunny fame) big droopy U shaped moustache! Now that made me laugh as I always loved Yosemite Sam.
Deb.
Posted by Kath on June 2, 2000, at 9:47:43
In reply to Re: Jennifer and Kath, posted by Deb R on June 2, 2000, at 4:50:16
> Guess what I discovered....tho I am sure you guys know this already: according to my Fodor's book on California a Yosemite-type valley is U-shaped...then I remembered good old "Yosemite Sam's" (of Bugs Bunny fame) big droopy U shaped moustache! Now that made me laugh as I always loved Yosemite Sam.
>
> Deb.
.............
Hi Deb - sounds like you like to travel. I do too, and I always take lots of photos. I find that when I'm feeling down, it's really therapeutic to look through my photo albums & re-enjoy those holidays.Take care. Kath
Posted by Jennifer on June 3, 2000, at 6:40:54
In reply to Re: back to Deb R - To Jennifer, posted by Kath on June 1, 2000, at 8:15:08
Kath, my husband is from up there, and it's beautiful, I agree. I'm looking to replace my motherly mini-van with a conversion van in the next month or too. My kids are at a great age to start enjoying some site-seeing...and they're still young enough that I enjoy them! Never been to Canada though. My parents took all my siblings while I was in college...the pictures were beautiful. Hope to go someday. Hope all is well up there, Jennifer
> Hi Jennifer - I haven't been to the Sierra's, but a few summers ago my husband, 2 kids & I travelled from Canada to California for a camping holiday & enjoyed it immensely. We drove up that winding, sea-overlooking road from SanFrancisco to Salt Point, which I particularly loved. Then we drove back down to Andrew Molera State Park area & Big Sur & area & visited various beautiful places all in between. My husband & I especially loved hiking at Andrew Molera. I LOVE California!!
>
> Hope you are doing well. Kath
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