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Posted by Anne on July 12, 1999, at 22:14:38
My 6-year old son has been diagnosed with PDD and is taking Adderall and Tenex. All I ever hear of Adderall being prescribed for is ADD/ADHD. Is it common for it to be used for PDD? He is on 10 mg. once a day and I really don't see a significant change in his behavior. He is also in a day treatment program that focuses on behavior modification. Any information would be appreciated.
Posted by ginny on July 15, 1999, at 19:54:29
In reply to Adderall and PDD, posted by Anne on July 12, 1999, at 22:14:38
>First of all, don't get real hung up at the diagnosis at this age. Think more of drugs being for different target symptoms. Adderal is usually for the impulsivity and hyperactivity. If those are the biggest problems, there are other stimulants to try or different dosages. If other symptoms are driving you crazy, there are plenty of other meds. Go to your doctor with specific examples of the most problematic behavior. If he can't offer you anything other than stimulants, maybe you're at the wrong doc. I, too, have a complicated kid. I know some docs don't know what to do if it's not ADD. I call them "surburban ritalin pushers". Good luck. My son is now 12, and is on his 16th drug trial. We are finally in the right ballpark, but need to fine tune the drugs. How do you know this? Well, when symptoms are maybe 50% better. When more days look like what his best day is now. Good luck, it's a long, nasty road. But there are getting to be more and better people than can help. You're already ahead of the game by surfing the net.
Posted by Anne on July 15, 1999, at 21:20:03
In reply to Re: Adderall and PDD, posted by ginny on July 15, 1999, at 19:54:29
> >First of all, don't get real hung up at the diagnosis at this age. Think more of drugs being for different target symptoms. Adderal is usually for the impulsivity and hyperactivity. If those are the biggest problems, there are other stimulants to try or different dosages. If other symptoms are driving you crazy, there are plenty of other meds. Go to your doctor with specific examples of the most problematic behavior. If he can't offer you anything other than stimulants, maybe you're at the wrong doc. I, too, have a complicated kid. I know some docs don't know what to do if it's not ADD. I call them "surburban ritalin pushers". Good luck. My son is now 12, and is on his 16th drug trial. We are finally in the right ballpark, but need to fine tune the drugs. How do you know this? Well, when symptoms are maybe 50% better. When more days look like what his best day is now. Good luck, it's a long, nasty road. But there are getting to be more and better people than can help. You're already ahead of the game by surfing the net.
Thanks for the info. Since my last thread, I have also found out that ADHD, combined type; and Severe Disruptive Behavior Disorder along with the PDD, is part of the total diagnosis. So far we are seeing very little results, but it has only been one month, so I am going to give it a little longer. How much time do you usually give to see if a medicine is going to do what it is supposed to? This is his first set of meds, so I am a novice at this!!
Posted by ginny on July 16, 1999, at 20:02:29
In reply to Re: Adderall and PDD, posted by Anne on July 15, 1999, at 21:20:03
>You'd know by now. Adderall is metabolized rather quickly, it does not "build up" in the system like other types of meds. If your guy is explosive, start charting the expolosions. Maybe they are med related. My son did well for two hours on Ritalin, but then would "rebound" so bad, he'd be explosive, then crying, then clawing at his face, all in a short time. Discuss the target symptoms with your doc, ask what other ideas he has, then research them. We went to one quack when my son was seven that immediately wanted to put him on Mellaril, which is a very old, very nasty antipsychotic. I called my pediatrician to double check since I thought it sounded fishy. (this was before Internet). She said, get the hell out of there, he doesn't know what he is doing! By the way, if you're using a family doc, you had better think about getting a psychiatrist that specializes in complex kids.
When you move out of the stimulant category, most other types of drugs take three to four weeks. Many times, though, we knew they wouldn't work the first week. Anti-depressents (tricyclics) made him nastier, SSRI's (like Prozac) made him more hyper...by then we were with a psychiatrist that worked with complex kids. He knew these were hints. Sometimes what doesn't work is as valuable information as what does. If he's absolutely no better on Adderall, don't bother trying every stimulant.
Anyway, I hope this makes sense, Anne. Knowledge is power. Get lots of it. Find a doc that explains things to your satisfaction and LISTENS when you notice bizarre side effects.
I can say despite the fact our kid is very severe, he now takes his meds willingly (and there's a lot of them) and tells his psychiatrist when he doesn't feel they are working. We have taught him that it is his right to feel better, and not to live with nasty side effects. A few times he has forgotten to take his meds before school, and consequently had an AWFUL day. I just remind him when he balks at taking them. It will take you a while to get to this point, but it happens. I figure he is gonna have to take them most of his life, and the more pro-active I can make him, the better off he will be.
Hope this helps. Again, don't get too caught up on the diagnosis. If he's six, they may change. He's lucky to have such an invested Mom. Remember you know and love him better than anyone. Your observations matter! I will check back on this thread....
>
> Thanks for the info. Since my last thread, I have also found out that ADHD, combined type; and Severe Disruptive Behavior Disorder along with the PDD, is part of the total diagnosis. So far we are seeing very little results, but it has only been one month, so I am going to give it a little longer. How much time do you usually give to see if a medicine is going to do what it is supposed to? This is his first set of meds, so I am a novice at this!!
H
Posted by Anne on July 17, 1999, at 6:46:33
In reply to Re: Adderall and PDD, posted by ginny on July 16, 1999, at 20:02:29
> >I have started a database that keeps track of each and every day and how Mike's behavior is that day. I am already noticing the aggression and disruptiveness coming back little by little. We already have a child psychiatrist but I am not real thrilled with him or the other 2 in the same office.We have already considered looking for another, but we will have to go out of town, as where we are, there is only one other to check out.
Mike is alot different than alot of kids with this kind of disorder. For the most part he is so withdrawn, you wouldn't even know he is here, but then he just explodes when in a social situation, for no apparent reason. He is very aggressive with other children,which really scares me.I tend to stay away from places where smaller children might be present.
It really limits us on places to go because he just doesn't do well at all when we go anywhere there are alot of people. That is why I am getting to where I am relying on the internet for information and just some support. It kind of isolates us from the world also, as people tend not to visit because they don't know how to handle him and it's hard to take him anywhere. We have very little family support and have exhausted our supply of babysitters!
It's just nice to be able to "talk" to someone.Thanks!
Posted by ginny on July 21, 1999, at 21:18:12
In reply to Re: Adderall and PDD, posted by Anne on July 15, 1999, at 21:20:03
> > Hi Anne:
Sorry it's been a few days--I am actually working on my Master's on this stuff, because I have spent so much timne managing my own child.
I agree that maybe it's time to look for a new psychiatrist. Many are comfortable with the stimulants and rather easy drugs like Tenex, but don't know where to go after that.
My son had a lot of that same PDD behavior. If it's any consolation, with time you will learn to predict him better and adjust his world so he won't freak out. Better meds will take the edge off of that, too, maybe give him time to think before the explosion.
For us, many little things have helped. For example, now that he can read time and schedules, if we put anything down on paper, he accepts it. Rules, somewhere we need to go, even trips for labwork. He needs to understand exactly what will happen, and then he is usually fine with it.
For the overstimulation thing, try some techniques. Bring the goodie bag if you are just trying to get through a happy meal at McDonals's without nuclear meltdown. Bribe. I even threaten...if you behave, Mommy will only stop at one store for an errand. If you don't, I will stop at 10. (He is STILL gullible enough to fall for that one!)
If you find someone that's really good at handling him, like a hair cutting place, use the same place and person. It will be familiar and comforting for him. If he is around too many other people, would a book or a set of headphones help? Our son will finally withdraw to his own room (this after years of no company) to do computer or Nintendo. I balked at Nintendo for a long time, but it buys me peace. There are non-violent games.Kids like this are the acid test of friendships. Join a support group. Find other Moms with kids as bizarre as yours. Learn to laugh at their eccentricities. Trade off with your husband for child care. Go out with a girlfriend, even go to a movie alone. (I wish I would've learned that one earlier). If you find a babysitter than CAN handle him, pay them more. Our son has learned to be VERY good now for babysitters. Especially male ones that play Nintendo with him.
I know now which of my "good" friends can handle being around my child, and which ones can't. I cherish the ones that accept him.
Connect with that support group, too, to find out services in your area. (another thing I wished I would've accessed sooner).
If your doc hasn't looked at neurology stuff to rule out seizures and the like, another good reason to fire him.
For explosiveness, many times meds like Depakote, Neurontin are looked at. Sometimes Risperdal. They usually try the more easy to take drugs first, so it is a process. But always ask how long you should give it, and call immediately if he is getting worse. Sometimes you might knee jerk, but Moms are at least 90% right on this stuff.
I am sorry about all the pain you are experiencing. Believe me, I know. I sometimes feel years have gone by where I didn't participate in the world. I am finally starting to get back! Fortunately, I do have family nearby. Not the "give me your kid for a week while you go to Hawaii" kind, but the ones who will help often with the little stuff, and who come over and don't care if my kid is beating up his sister and the kitchen floor sticks.
Anne, you are a smart lady. You will prevail. Just find a way to take care of ANNE.
Last word of advice for now--if something isn't working, don't be afraid to change it. Your kid isn't gonna be easy to figure out. You may hit all those professionals that think some fancy behavior plan will do everything. YEAH, RIGHT! If they don't have a clue, get rid of them.
Write back........
Ginny
ps if it's not too personal, what state are you in? (just in case I know of a resource...)
Don't Watget real hung up at the diagnosis at this age. Think more of drugs being for different target symptoms. Adderal is usually for the impulsivity and hyperactivity. If those are the biggest problems, there are other stimulants to try or different dosages. If other symptoms are driving you crazy, there are plenty of other meds. Go to your doctor with specific examples of the most problematic behavior. If he can't offer you anything other than stimulants, maybe you're at the wrong doc. I, too, have a complicated kid. I know some docs don't know what to do if it's not ADD. I call them "surburban ritalin pushers". Good luck. My son is now 12, and is on his 16th drug trial. We are finally in the right ballpark, but need to fine tune the drugs. How do you know this? Well, when symptoms are maybe 50% better. When more days look like what his best day is now. Good luck, it's a long, nasty road. But there are getting to be more and better people than can help. You're already ahead of the game by surfing the net.
>
> Thanks for the info. Since my last thread, I have also found out that ADHD, combined type; and Severe Disruptive Behavior Disorder along with the PDD, is part of the total diagnosis. So far we are seeing very little results, but it has only been one month, so I am going to give it a little longer. How much time do you usually give to see if a medicine is going to do what it is supposed to? This is his first set of meds, so I am a novice at this!!
Posted by ginny on July 21, 1999, at 21:29:20
In reply to Re: Adderall and PDD, posted by Anne on July 17, 1999, at 6:46:33
> > >Anne:
Another thought. Your son doesn't sound that ADHD. Besides the PDD, look up sites for Asperger's Syndrome and Autism. They are on the same spectrum as PDD, but have different features. You will notice the similarities and the differences. The strictly ADHD management strategies may not work, as I have hinted at on my other reply. Maybe he will be a mixed bag of things...a little hyperactivity, a little obsessive, a whole lot moody, etc.
Hang in there!
Ginny
have a child psychiatrist but I am not real thrilled with him or the other 2 in the same office.We have already considered looking for another, but we will have to go out of town, as where we are, there is only one other to check out.
> Mike is alot different than alot of kids with this kind of disorder. For the most part he is so withdrawn, you wouldn't even know he is here, but then he just explodes when in a social situation, for no apparent reason. He is very aggressive with other children,which really scares me.I tend to stay away from places where smaller children might be present.
> It really limits us on places to go because he just doesn't do well at all when we go anywhere there are alot of people. That is why I am getting to where I am relying on the internet for information and just some support. It kind of isolates us from the world also, as people tend not to visit because they don't know how to handle him and it's hard to take him anywhere. We have very little family support and have exhausted our supply of babysitters!
> It's just nice to be able to "talk" to someone.Thanks!
Posted by Anne on July 22, 1999, at 6:37:01
In reply to Re: Adderall and PDD, posted by ginny on July 21, 1999, at 21:29:20
Thanks, Ginny, for the pick-me-up! It is really nice to know that you can survive a child like this.
Mike is a bundle of a lot of different things, that is what makes it so hard to handle him. The drs and therapists only seem to want to focus on one thing at a time while the rest of the stuff is going off the wall! It drives you crazy. I just yesterday went off on our family therapist when she got going on behavior modification by using time out and parks. Mike loves to be in time out, it keeps him away from people and from having to participate. I keep telling them to keep being consistant with keeping him with the group as much as possible.
We have tried every form of modification that has been suggested to us so far and when they don't work after 6 months they are not going to work.
Right now I live in Mississippi but am hoping to move to New York after I graduate in December. That is where my family lives and I think it would be a real good idea for all of us, especially myself, to have some family around. I also feel I can get some better care for Mike there compared to here. I will be hard for my 2 other boys at first as this is where their father lives and they won't get to see him as often, but I still feel we can work around that issue and they will benefit also from better schools and better opportunities.
As far as the diagnosis with Mike, I have also been pushing the psychiatrist to answer why they don't see the symptoms of OPP, he fits it to a tee from what I have found on it. But he also fits anti-social personality syndrome, and OCD. He does not conform to the norm of one type of thing. I don't agree with the Hyper part of the diagnosis. If a child can sit with one thing for over 2 hours at a time and not move to do something else, there is no hyperness, to me it is the complete opposite.The autism is a very close call too, he has an older brother who lives with his grandmother, that is autistic, but on a different level.
I am doing better at just accepting the fact that Mike will not be real close to anyone and will keep being withdrawn no matter what we do, but it still gets to me once in awhile. He is just so remote all the time and there is no show of emotions. He does not even feel any remorse for bad behavior or when he physically hurts someone, there is no guilt present. To me, that is the scariest part. It makes you wonder what can happen when he gets older and stronger. Consequence has absolutely no meaning to him. He accepts the consequence but it does not keep him from doing it over and over again.
Anyhow, I will end this book for now! I look forward to your next thread!
Posted by ginny on July 22, 1999, at 8:35:40
In reply to Re: Adderall and PDD, posted by Anne on July 22, 1999, at 6:37:01
Dear Anne:
Sorry I don't know anyone in Mississippi. New York might be a good idea. Funny how just grandma watching the other kids when you do something with "special" kid can even be a treat.
So are you ready to throw the bingo chips and behavior charts at the therapist yet? The ones I hate most are the ones that say "I feel your pain." Wanna feel my pain? Take him for a week!
Think of the time-out another way. He may never feel comfortable for long stretches around people. As much as you and I are probably the kind of people that get energy from connecting with others, for him it is exhausting. If he can go upstairs, do a solitary thing, and regroup for a while, that's a good, sustaining skill to learn.
It's common for you to feel the anger at this stage. Been there, done that, still do it sometimes. But remember too, this is not a good feeling for him, and he probably wishes it would all go away if he could. Unfortunately for him, he hasn't experienced "normal."
Are there a few things he focuses all his attention on? Can he relate one-on-one with adults better than children? If so, look up Asperger's syndrome. It has some of those autistic features, but the kids are a little more connected, in a quirky, obsessive kind of way. I'm not saying that's it, I haven't met your child, but it might be interesting for you to read.
He is too young to be diagnosed with anti-social personality disorder, even though it might feel that way. Anti-socials really comprehend what they are doing, and are cognizant of what they are doing. It's out of meanness.
Your son sounds like he is just reacting with no pre-meditation. I think of the brain as a mass of wires, and our sons' wires are sparking and shorting up there. The right meds can slow down that sparking so you can start teaching.
He probably can't read his environment very well, and has little capacity to realize what upsets people and learn from the situation. That requires high level thought which he might not have right now, as well as a good deal of introspection, which is hard for six year old boys in general (or 40 year old boys for that matter) much less a kid with real disabilities.The behavior mod will help in that he needs structure, and under it all, probably likes it because it's the only predictable thing he experiences with that goofy brain. No, it won't stop the behavior. He won't learn to change quickly. I worked in day tx for my internship. It can help a lot of kids know no structure at home, and to give mom a break, but don't look for great gains with a kid like this.
Gotta share a funny one. My son is also deaf, so picking up language is hard for a few reasons. Yesterday, he pigged out at a restaurant for lunch. The checkout lady offered him a sucker, and he plainly said "No thanks, I'm on a diet." After ten years of speech therapy, as well as a brain disorder that keeps him from acquiring language, this was a really funny thing to come out of his mouth.
I left my e-mail on this thread, it's a quicker way to find me.
Keep the faith, Anne. You sound like one tough lady, but it's okay to need a little propping up.
Ginny
Thanks, Ginny, for the pick-me-up! It is really nice to know that you can survive a child like this.
> Mike is a bundle of a lot of different things, that is what makes it so hard to handle him. The drs and therapists only seem to want to focus on one thing at a time while the rest of the stuff is going off the wall! It drives you crazy. I just yesterday went off on our family therapist when she got going on behavior modification by using time out and parks. Mike loves to be in time out, it keeps him away from people and from having to participate. I keep telling them to keep being consistant with keeping him with the group as much as possible.
> We have tried every form of modification that has been suggested to us so far and when they don't work after 6 months they are not going to work.
> Right now I live in Mississippi but am hoping to move to New York after I graduate in December. That is where my family lives and I think it would be a real good idea for all of us, especially myself, to have some family around. I also feel I can get some better care for Mike there compared to here. I will be hard for my 2 other boys at first as this is where their father lives and they won't get to see him as often, but I still feel we can work around that issue and they will benefit also from better schools and better opportunities.
> As far as the diagnosis with Mike, I have also been pushing the psychiatrist to answer why they don't see the symptoms of OPP, he fits it to a tee from what I have found on it. But he also fits anti-social personality syndrome, and OCD. He does not conform to the norm of one type of thing. I don't agree with the Hyper part of the diagnosis. If a child can sit with one thing for over 2 hours at a time and not move to do something else, there is no hyperness, to me it is the complete opposite.The autism is a very close call too, he has an older brother who lives with his grandmother, that is autistic, but on a different level.
> I am doing better at just accepting the fact that Mike will not be real close to anyone and will keep being withdrawn no matter what we do, but it still gets to me once in awhile. He is just so remote all the time and there is no show of emotions. He does not even feel any remorse for bad behavior or when he physically hurts someone, there is no guilt present. To me, that is the scariest part. It makes you wonder what can happen when he gets older and stronger. Consequence has absolutely no meaning to him. He accepts the consequence but it does not keep him from doing it over and over again.
> Anyhow, I will end this book for now! I look forward to your next thread!
Posted by ginny on July 22, 1999, at 8:42:06
In reply to Re: Adderall and PDD, posted by ginny on July 22, 1999, at 8:35:40
One other thought (again). Just wanted you to know, my son used to even bat me away when sound asleep. Now he hugs me....a lot. As pissed off as he gets at me (and vice versa) he knows he depends on me a great deal to lighten his load, explain his world, and advocate. He hates it some days, but under it all there is a strong bond. Thought you might need that thought to shoot for.
Secondly, he actually goes to the psychiatrist now and tells him what is not working about his meds, and tells me when he is experiencing hallucinations. Little by little, he is learning to manage his illness, even though we are a far cry from normal.
Thought you'd need those thoughts to get through the day.
Ginny
p.s. I'm in Wisconsin
Dear Anne:
>
> Sorry I don't know anyone in Mississippi. New York might be a good idea. Funny how just grandma watching the other kids when you do something with "special" kid can even be a treat.
>
> So are you ready to throw the bingo chips and behavior charts at the therapist yet? The ones I hate most are the ones that say "I feel your pain." Wanna feel my pain? Take him for a week!
>
> Think of the time-out another way. He may never feel comfortable for long stretches around people. As much as you and I are probably the kind of people that get energy from connecting with others, for him it is exhausting. If he can go upstairs, do a solitary thing, and regroup for a while, that's a good, sustaining skill to learn.
>
> It's common for you to feel the anger at this stage. Been there, done that, still do it sometimes. But remember too, this is not a good feeling for him, and he probably wishes it would all go away if he could. Unfortunately for him, he hasn't experienced "normal."
>
> Are there a few things he focuses all his attention on? Can he relate one-on-one with adults better than children? If so, look up Asperger's syndrome. It has some of those autistic features, but the kids are a little more connected, in a quirky, obsessive kind of way. I'm not saying that's it, I haven't met your child, but it might be interesting for you to read.
>
> He is too young to be diagnosed with anti-social personality disorder, even though it might feel that way. Anti-socials really comprehend what they are doing, and are cognizant of what they are doing. It's out of meanness.
>
> Your son sounds like he is just reacting with no pre-meditation. I think of the brain as a mass of wires, and our sons' wires are sparking and shorting up there. The right meds can slow down that sparking so you can start teaching.
> He probably can't read his environment very well, and has little capacity to realize what upsets people and learn from the situation. That requires high level thought which he might not have right now, as well as a good deal of introspection, which is hard for six year old boys in general (or 40 year old boys for that matter) much less a kid with real disabilities.
>
> The behavior mod will help in that he needs structure, and under it all, probably likes it because it's the only predictable thing he experiences with that goofy brain. No, it won't stop the behavior. He won't learn to change quickly. I worked in day tx for my internship. It can help a lot of kids know no structure at home, and to give mom a break, but don't look for great gains with a kid like this.
>
> Gotta share a funny one. My son is also deaf, so picking up language is hard for a few reasons. Yesterday, he pigged out at a restaurant for lunch. The checkout lady offered him a sucker, and he plainly said "No thanks, I'm on a diet." After ten years of speech therapy, as well as a brain disorder that keeps him from acquiring language, this was a really funny thing to come out of his mouth.
>
> I left my e-mail on this thread, it's a quicker way to find me.
>
> Keep the faith, Anne. You sound like one tough lady, but it's okay to need a little propping up.
>
> Ginny
> Thanks, Ginny, for the pick-me-up! It is really nice to know that you can survive a child like this.
> > Mike is a bundle of a lot of different things, that is what makes it so hard to handle him. The drs and therapists only seem to want to focus on one thing at a time while the rest of the stuff is going off the wall! It drives you crazy. I just yesterday went off on our family therapist when she got going on behavior modification by using time out and parks. Mike loves to be in time out, it keeps him away from people and from having to participate. I keep telling them to keep being consistant with keeping him with the group as much as possible.
> > We have tried every form of modification that has been suggested to us so far and when they don't work after 6 months they are not going to work.
> > Right now I live in Mississippi but am hoping to move to New York after I graduate in December. That is where my family lives and I think it would be a real good idea for all of us, especially myself, to have some family around. I also feel I can get some better care for Mike there compared to here. I will be hard for my 2 other boys at first as this is where their father lives and they won't get to see him as often, but I still feel we can work around that issue and they will benefit also from better schools and better opportunities.
> > As far as the diagnosis with Mike, I have also been pushing the psychiatrist to answer why they don't see the symptoms of OPP, he fits it to a tee from what I have found on it. But he also fits anti-social personality syndrome, and OCD. He does not conform to the norm of one type of thing. I don't agree with the Hyper part of the diagnosis. If a child can sit with one thing for over 2 hours at a time and not move to do something else, there is no hyperness, to me it is the complete opposite.The autism is a very close call too, he has an older brother who lives with his grandmother, that is autistic, but on a different level.
> > I am doing better at just accepting the fact that Mike will not be real close to anyone and will keep being withdrawn no matter what we do, but it still gets to me once in awhile. He is just so remote all the time and there is no show of emotions. He does not even feel any remorse for bad behavior or when he physically hurts someone, there is no guilt present. To me, that is the scariest part. It makes you wonder what can happen when he gets older and stronger. Consequence has absolutely no meaning to him. He accepts the consequence but it does not keep him from doing it over and over again.
> > Anyhow, I will end this book for now! I look forward to your next thread!
Posted by karla on July 23, 1999, at 16:50:39
In reply to Re: Adderall and PDD, posted by Anne on July 17, 1999, at 6:46:33
My daughter is diagnosed pdd and on zoloft. My son exhibits some adhd behaviors. Our doc. believes his adhd behavior is more associated with anxiety connected a familial/genetic pdd diagnosis (Asperger syndrome). He said he would not treat the adhd with a stimulant first feeling that would only exacerbate son's anxiety. If my daughter continues to do well on zoloft she will then be treated for her add symptoms with another drug. Then the doc. will direct a similar treatment to my son.....only using the zoloft first.
I have seen great results with this doc. I trust his perspective.
> > >I have started a database that keeps track of each and every day and how Mike's behavior is that day. I am already noticing the aggression and disruptiveness coming back little by little. We already have a child psychiatrist but I am not real thrilled with him or the other 2 in the same office.We have already considered looking for another, but we will have to go out of town, as where we are, there is only one other to check out.
> Mike is alot different than alot of kids with this kind of disorder. For the most part he is so withdrawn, you wouldn't even know he is here, but then he just explodes when in a social situation, for no apparent reason. He is very aggressive with other children,which really scares me.I tend to stay away from places where smaller children might be present.
> It really limits us on places to go because he just doesn't do well at all when we go anywhere there are alot of people. That is why I am getting to where I am relying on the internet for information and just some support. It kind of isolates us from the world also, as people tend not to visit because they don't know how to handle him and it's hard to take him anywhere. We have very little family support and have exhausted our supply of babysitters!
> It's just nice to be able to "talk" to someone.Thanks!
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