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Posted by RYAN on November 2, 1998, at 13:32:49
MY MIND GOES AND GOES ALL THE TIME AND LATELY I HAVENT BEEN ABLE TO STOP IT. SOME DOCTORS THINK THIS IS PART OF MY BIPOLAR BUT SOME DONT KNOW AT ALL WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH ME.
ANYONE RELATE?
Posted by Victor on November 2, 1998, at 21:19:35
In reply to CAN'T STOP THINKING, posted by RYAN on November 2, 1998, at 13:32:49
> MY MIND GOES AND GOES ALL THE TIME AND LATELY I HAVENT BEEN ABLE TO STOP IT. SOME DOCTORS THINK THIS IS PART OF MY BIPOLAR BUT SOME DONT KNOW AT ALL WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH ME.
> ANYONE RELATE?
I used to call it my runaway freight train in my head.
It was inconceivable to me that there were people
that sometimes thought of nothing. I even accused my
wife of not wanting totell me what she was thinking.
That was one of the first things that I noticed
after I began taking the medications in the hospital.
Don't ask me what all they were, Risperdal among others,
all I know is that now I take Effexor, sometomes
Xanax, and I hear things I never heard before, like
babies crying and birds singing and cars honking
at me, because my mind was too busy with itself.
Hang in there! Help is on the way. These fine
people hesre will tell you things that you thought
only you knew. Of course we are all unique, just
like everybody else.TTFN
Victor
Posted by Lisa on November 3, 1998, at 0:54:36
In reply to Re: CAN'T STOP THINKING, posted by Victor on November 2, 1998, at 21:19:35
Can anyone relate? Probably a very high percentage of bipolars can.
Throughout most of the day, my mind is somewhat occupied with daily
stuff unless under extreme amounts of stress, but come night when
the lights shut off and everyone goes to bed???
Wham! My racing thoughts have kept me up until dawn at times.
You are not alone in that respect.Lisa :D
Posted by ken mitchell on January 27, 1999, at 5:59:53
In reply to CAN'T STOP THINKING, posted by RYAN on November 2, 1998, at 13:32:49
> Ever since I was a young boy my mind thinks and thinks and thinks. And when stress enters my life I think 10 times more and seem to have no control of my thoughts my mind feels like its gonna explode! It causes me plenty of depression.
HELP!!!!!!!
Posted by thia on May 28, 1999, at 18:27:54
In reply to Re: CAN'T STOP THINKING, posted by ken mitchell on January 27, 1999, at 5:59:53
> > Ever since I was a young boy my mind thinks and thinks and thinks. And when stress enters my life I think 10 times more and seem to have no control of my thoughts my mind feels like its gonna explode! It causes me plenty of depression.
> HELP!!!!!!!My mind too is a pretty wild place. I have both bipolar disorder and Attention Deficit Disorder. If you can't slow your brain down with bipolar treatment, find out if you have ADD.
Posted by Greg Grandiose on May 29, 1999, at 0:10:20
In reply to Re: CAN'T STOP THINKING, posted by ken mitchell on January 27, 1999, at 5:59:53
> > Ever since I was a young boy my mind thinks and thinks and thinks. And when stress enters my life I think 10 times more and seem to have no control of my thoughts my mind feels like its gonna explode! It causes me plenty of depression.
> HELP!!!!!!!
I always thought that my turbo-charged brain was a good thing. My thoughts were inspired by the "Truth of the Universe" and I was tapping in on "pure creative thought." I was so sure that I was destined for some kind of greatness and self-made wealth. Mania feels GREAT! Of course the depressions suck. But why do I have to get rid of the Mania too?
Posted by Pat on June 4, 1999, at 1:39:42
In reply to Re: CAN'T STOP THINKING, posted by Greg Grandiose on May 29, 1999, at 0:10:20
I find stimulant mediation helpful. the problem is, that doesn't help at night. Sometimes having had too late a dose of stimulat medication makes the problem even worse at night. My former partner called it "busy brain". My present partner just knows to make sure I'm focused. I too cannot imagine what it is like not to think -- or to think of nothing. But I really enjoy the creativity that goes with my kaleidoscopic thoughts. Hope you all do too!
Posted by Rayne on December 20, 2002, at 10:26:40
In reply to Re: CAN'T STOP THINKING, posted by Pat on June 4, 1999, at 1:39:42
I've never been tested for depression or any disorders, but lately I've been thinking more that there is something there. So many thoughts sometimes that it bothers me when people talk b/c it makes it that much more impossible to keep everything straight. I can't do math b/c I can't stay focused enough to concentrate on all the numbers. Sometimes I just scream as loud as I can to releive my stress. Everyone else I bring it up to doesn't seem to understand the severity of it sometimes. It's not like I hear voices, I just think...way too much...about everything. I've been blessed with a boyfriend that can talk about things when they're not right...but my head spins so fast sometimes that I don't know what I want to say or when I want to say it...so 1/2 the time I say nothing at all, and it makes everything worse. I can't stand talking about it to anyone that couldn't possibly ever comprehend what it's like to worry, to think, to DWELL on the unnessesary (sp?). I hate knowing that certain subjects should not plague me the way they do...but I can't stop it, I can't just turn it off. When someone tells me to "get over it" it's more like I go over the deep end b/c I know I need to get over it, and I want to...I just can't seem to shake certain thoughts. I know I'm ranting and raving, and I know how much I hate having my mind swirl into a million minute oblivions...it's at least slightly comforting to know that I'm not insane (like I thought I was until I read some of your posts), I'm probably quite normal, and to know that every way that I'm feeling, there's other people that can relate.
Posted by jimmygold70 on December 21, 2002, at 12:04:07
In reply to Re: CAN'T STOP THINKING, posted by Rayne on December 20, 2002, at 10:26:40
Sounds like hypomania, you seem bipolar. Try Depakote. Old, well established, works well.
Good luck!
Jimmy
Posted by Kat26 on December 21, 2002, at 12:51:02
In reply to Re: CAN'T STOP THINKING, posted by Rayne on December 20, 2002, at 10:26:40
It's not like obsessive-compulsive kind of thinking right?
Posted by jotho on December 21, 2002, at 13:51:56
In reply to Re: CAN'T STOP THINKING, posted by Rayne on December 20, 2002, at 10:26:40
Rayne...I do know exactly what you are describing. I have been wrestling for years with the feeling that certain thoughts just overtake my brain and I constantly dwell on them. It seems that everyday there is the same laundry list of stupid thoughts that keep repeating themselves. I may get flack for this post, but years ago I read a book by Jack (?) Dreyfuss (yeah, the same mutual fund guy), that talked about stopping overstimulation of certain neural pathways in the brain with the anti-epileptic drug Dilantin (phenytoin...sp?). Go on the Psychobabble search engine, as well as google (there is a website for the book he wrote). I used Dilantin and my mind near-instantly stopped the constant, repeating thoughts and brought me calm. However, I had a bad reaction to it (small % do) and broke out in a bad measles-like rash...if that had not happened I'm sure i'd still be using it.
Good luck, do a little investigation on it, and then speak to a doctor. You should be able to obtain it fairly easily.
Best wishes...Jotho
Posted by jotho on December 21, 2002, at 13:57:26
In reply to Re: CAN'T STOP THINKING, posted by jotho on December 21, 2002, at 13:51:56
Rayne....
The link for that website is:
http://www.remarkablemedicine.com/
Please check it out, and also put the word 'Dilantin" in the psychobabble search engine. That should come up with some helpful stuff also.
Posted by wcfrench on December 22, 2002, at 1:37:06
In reply to Re: CAN'T STOP THINKING, posted by Rayne on December 20, 2002, at 10:26:40
Holy crap I started to feel that way just by reading your message.
If you haven't seen a doctor or therapist, see one. Cognitive behavioral therapy could be of great help, or if you're willing (or need to), antidepressants could help. It sounds like an obsessive thought pattern. Through my experience with medicine (several different ones, phases without medicine) I have experienced that over-concentration that makes you crazy, and it went away, probably because of medicine.
Good luck, take care,
Happy holidays,
Charlie
Posted by fuzzymind on December 22, 2002, at 23:17:53
In reply to Re: CAN'T STOP THINKING, posted by Rayne on December 20, 2002, at 10:26:40
> I've never been tested for depression or any disorders, but lately I've been thinking more that there is something there. So many thoughts sometimes that it bothers me when people talk b/c it makes it that much more impossible to keep everything straight. I can't do math b/c I can't stay focused enough to concentrate on all the numbers. Sometimes I just scream as loud as I can to releive my stress. Everyone else I bring it up to doesn't seem to understand the severity of it sometimes. It's not like I hear voices, I just think...way too much...about everything. I've been blessed with a boyfriend that can talk about things when they're not right...but my head spins so fast sometimes that I don't know what I want to say or when I want to say it...so 1/2 the time I say nothing at all, and it makes everything worse. I can't stand talking about it to anyone that couldn't possibly ever comprehend what it's like to worry, to think, to DWELL on the unnessesary (sp?). I hate knowing that certain subjects should not plague me the way they do...but I can't stop it, I can't just turn it off. When someone tells me to "get over it" it's more like I go over the deep end b/c I know I need to get over it, and I want to...I just can't seem to shake certain thoughts. I know I'm ranting and raving, and I know how much I hate having my mind swirl into a million minute oblivions...it's at least slightly comforting to know that I'm not insane (like I thought I was until I read some of your posts), I'm probably quite normal, and to know that every way that I'm feeling, there's other people that can relate.
12 years ago when I dropped out of college, and out of life and society, I used to scream all the time to get images out of my mind an to relieve stress as yu said. I o it, but lesss frequently. Can't get those abusive, traumatic thoughts out of my head. I want to die
Posted by grrovymotion on December 24, 2002, at 1:29:12
In reply to Re: CAN'T STOP THINKING, posted by fuzzymind on December 22, 2002, at 23:17:53
Ok please continue this thread, because finally Ive come across a thread that has high relevance to what Ive always been plagued with. I know I have some aspect of Generalized anxiety disorder
,the cognitive component, where I worry about the future. But there was also another element to it, that no body could ever explain to me. I thought it was just OCD because I suffered from intrusive
guilt thoughts in past, but the antidepressant Im on never touched the part of it where I'll get into heavy philosophical and political debates, where I'll get a jump or excited train of linear thought, and I usually belabor the points, but they are not your mundane ocd stuff, I dont have rituals or pesky checking or whatever. When I was a kid I was forgetful and had problems concentrating, that is, I couldnt work something through like a math problem ( I have a mathematics disorder, but no reading disorder. I can be a voreciferous reader if its non-fiction. Im quite intellectual and well-read, but cant
work though a puzzle or logic problem.)
I thought attention deficit. But I dont have the impulsive behaviour of ADHD. Im uptight alot of times, tense, that is, I can' enjoy the moment or
enjoy roses and nature. I've been getting more and more IRRITABLE.
If I go to night clubs my mind starts racing, Im like over- analyzing everything, down to the universe. I'll want to meet a woman, but too uptight to be socially capable.
My mind works in a like winners and losers mentality. I hate being like this. Gad seems a better answer. But I"ll have these marathon thought patterns, thinking and over thinking, anaylzing universe. If someone cant meet my intellectual standards I wont listen or reply to them. But if thye can, as several of my friends can, then expect a deep conversation.
I thought possibly that I might have a thought disorder but my thoughts always remain coherent, never gets too weird. I notice its always about power. In a single day I veer from total powerlessness, then my thought pattern would kick in and I'll start having thoughts that empowers me. But it wont last and then I'll get depressed. Im either over
analyzing things, sorta of mind over matter (the world and the fact that Im a loser). Or I'll see rich people on tv and see people with good jobs and I'll immediately feel a need to change my entire existence, and I cant wait months! But the constant anxiety however makes it difficult for me to slow down so that I can do these things, to handle the mundane.
If I can't be rich now, then I just get depressed, because its not immediately there. Im the kind of person who needs closure.
Its like I have this messed up bi-polar personality. Powerlessness to extreme motivation all in one day. The thing that has helped me
alot is the internet,because it allows me to exist on a mental level without having to delay gratification. It does empower me a little, so it acts as a stand-in for my thoughts.If that makes sense!
Can anyone relate? please.
Posted by Krysti on December 26, 2002, at 8:23:49
In reply to Re: CAN'T STOP THINKING: Please info., posted by grrovymotion on December 24, 2002, at 1:29:12
Hi,
I can totally relate to what everyone is saying. It's enough to drive you crazy when you cannot stop thinking, thinking, thinking. When it started happening to me, I asked around to see if it was normal, but other people did not experience this. At first, I thought it was due to anxiety, but later found out I had bipolar disorder.
The best thing to do is to find a really good psychiatrist and discuss what you are going through with him/her. They are trained to be able to diagnose you and prescribe medication if needed. For a long time, I resisted doing that because I was afraid of being misdiagnosed and I thought it was a mind over matter thing and I should be able to control it myself. Now that I know what I have and am on medication for it, I can look back and see how obvious it was.
The best thing I read that helped me out was that once this happens to you, it will not go away by itself. I had spent 6 years trying to no avail. I was also scared to death to think I may have "bipolar disorder". Now, I'm just glad I have been diagnosed finally.
I wish all of you the best of luck : )
Krysti
Posted by Michael D on December 29, 2002, at 21:09:23
In reply to Re: CAN'T STOP THINKING: Please info., posted by grrovymotion on December 24, 2002, at 1:29:12
> I know I have some aspect of Generalized
> anxiety disorder,the cognitive component, where I worry about the future. But there was also another element to it, that no body could ever explain to me. I thought it was just OCD because I suffered from intrusive guilt thoughts in past, but the antidepressant Im on never touched the part of it where I'll get into heavy philosophical and political debates, where I'll get a jump or excited train of linear thought, and I usually belabor the points, but they are not your mundane ocd stuff, I dont have rituals or pesky checking or whatever. When I was a kid I was forgetful and had problems concentrating,This reminds me of me. You have Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. The anxiety you walk around with is a lot like a 'fight or flight' state, if I'm correct.
read http://www.ncvc.org/infolink/Info39.htm
Michael D
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