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Posted by musky on May 2, 2006, at 1:19:05
In reply to Cut dose to 3.75 last night? » musky, posted by johnnyj on April 26, 2006, at 9:29:04
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hi johnny
yes im on 2mg (have been for about 3months), whats strange, maybe not really but i had a complete mood drop the other day,, real down like no will to go on... but i kept going doing my things and just kept telling myself its probably the body still adjusting. this is the first time my mood was that off since coming down to this dose... it was scary.. but i didnt give up... it seems to have passed,,, didnt do anything(im not giving in to meds!!!) but just told myself over and over it will pass and that i felt better before and that it is just the stupid remeron... I really believe that this drug is far more potent than they say,,, it really messes up ones thoughts.. Also more tired at this dose(which makes sense ) cause all what i have found out about it is that it is more sedating at the lower doses..
As far as helping with anxiety as they "claim it does" that a load cause I have had nothing but agitation big time since on this crap... better now at the lower doses and as i said in previous posts , that this herbal relax has helped this along too...20 days and counting til im free of this stuff!
Musky
I slept close to 7 hours so I feel ok, a little anxious but that is to be expected. I feel a little spacey but not bad.
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> If you are on 2 mg I think it is just a matter of time before you are off for good. I can't reall see much benefit at these lower doses for anixety or depression. I think if you are on a low dose and have stabilized it is doable. I go for acupuncture this Friday.
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> cheers
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> johnnyj
Posted by musky on May 2, 2006, at 1:24:54
In reply to Re: Cut dose to 3.75 last night?, posted by Marian29 on April 26, 2006, at 12:28:53
> you got that right ,,, nothing is worth the wt gain... never have i felt MORE depressed and ugly than being on this horrible stuff... I NEVER was over weight or flabby or puffy and all that stuff before!!! I went from a cute 107lbs and size5/7 clothes to 145lbs , size 12!!!! my whole life was at this 107lbs wt!! I didnt even weigh that much when i was 9months pregnant with either one of my kids ! and this wt gain i got was so fast and very puffy in my face, etc..it was totally NOT normal.... they need to totally ban this drug!
Sorry but it set me back for almost 3yrs not being able to dress in my clothes ,,,Musky
I'd only been taking it for four months, so I guess I was lucky. It sounds like a true horror to get off of if you've been on it for longer than that.
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> Yeah, the nightmares and the night sweats--what an experience! But a little Benadryl really does seem to help. I also have very low dose xanax (.25 mg) on hand, and have had to take it in the middle of the night occasionally.
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> My insomnia was terrible before the Remeron, which was one of the reasons the psych gave it to me. I'll be starting from square one on that again. But nothing is worth the weight gain.
Posted by musky on May 2, 2006, at 1:31:55
In reply to Re: Cut dose to 3.75 last night?, posted by johnnyj on April 29, 2006, at 10:09:15
> hey johnny
keep going to acupuncture for a bit... it takes time to balance the body... and remember,, any med will interefere with the body's response to acupuncture as well, could take longer to notice any difference..
for me it has helped ALOT with minimizing withdrawls... ive been at this for a year.. but its has been totally worth it... Im in the whole damn race here... gotta keep goingGood luck
musky
I have been on 3.75 since Tuesday. I slept great on Thursday night. I had acupuncture on Friday and slept ok, woke up in the middle of the night once. When falling asleep I jerked awake once and that was not fun.
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> Acupuncutre didn't seem to do much for me to tell you the truth. I will go few more times and see if there is any benefit.
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> I definately feel that a slow taper is probably best since I can feel the grip of sponge brain lessen a tad since reducing my dose. Things are clearer also, but there is a little anxiety.
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> How is everyone else doing?
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> cheers
> johnnyj
Posted by musky on May 2, 2006, at 1:35:56
In reply to Re: Cut dose to 3.75 last night?, posted by Marian29 on April 29, 2006, at 16:01:39
>hey marian29, try acupuncture for insomnia... it helped me... or try some herbal remedies,,, much safer than meds of any kind.
good for you for not wanting to depend on another med for sleep.. believe it or not you willnot die from lack of sleep... the body does kick in. keep up the exercise..
oh ya, warm milk,is a natural sedative, valarian tea,,, self hypnosis,,, lavender essential oil. a long hot bath,, try swimming at night ,
hope this helps you out girl
take care
musky
Glad you're doing well, Johnny! Hope the anxiety doesn't get too bad for you.
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> I'm off completely as of a week ago. No depression, manageable leve of anxiety--but it's almost impossible to sleep. As I start to drift off, I wake up in a panic, and this happens over and over again all night. I tried Benadryl, but it didn't work; my doc gave me some Ambien, but that makes me horribly down and wiped out the next day--it's not worth it.
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> I really don't want to take another drug to get to sleep, but may need to find some relief soon. Any ideas out there? (I'm postmenopausal, very physically active).
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> Thanks!
Posted by Marian29 on May 2, 2006, at 16:51:54
In reply to Re: mirtazapine/remeron updates?, posted by musky on February 22, 2006, at 19:51:26
Thanks for the advice. I'm going crazy due to insufficient sleep. But the insomnia isn't caused by the remeron withdrawal--I had that before I took the drug. I tried valerian, but it made me feel funny. Maybe I'll try melatonin again.
Posted by musky on May 3, 2006, at 0:37:33
In reply to Re: Cut dose to 3.75 last night?, posted by little mommy on April 30, 2006, at 16:05:07
> Good for you little mommy.... yes its kinda tricky to cut even smaller than 3.75, but you be surprised what determination can do, lol
I even just ever so carefully break a piece off of the smallest(3.75mg) size with my finger nail.. i assume its about 2mg when i say this in my posts..
Good luck
I firmly believe a very slow taper is best, I have mangaged this way through the whole thing so far.... i have weaned from original 45mg all the way down to 2mg! so I guess thats pretty good, and have taken Absolutely NO MEDS(other than a little advil) for withdrawls... it has been totally acupuncture and herbs and stubborness.Hang in
I, too, have been on 3.75 (darn if those pills are hard to split to that size) and so far so good. I am not craving food as much and have been sleeping okay. I do wake up through the night but I have had no difficulty falling back to sleep. I am going to taper very, very gradually trying to even split the 3.75 into something smaller. I am going to see a naturopath this week as I want to get off these drugs and do something natural. I will be getting hormones checked and everything. I am pre menopausal and I think that this is the cause of my anxiety, etc. It sounds like that you all are hanging in there and doing what you know works for you. I wish you all the best.
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> Little Mommy
Posted by musky on May 3, 2006, at 0:40:18
In reply to Re: Cut dose to 3.75 last night? » Marian29, posted by johnnyj on May 1, 2006, at 8:50:38
Hey johnnny ... i think your heavy head etc, is withdrawl.. i experienced this too for the longest time every cut I would make... it seems better these days...
musky
Posted by musky on May 3, 2006, at 0:43:47
In reply to Re: Cut dose to 3.75 last night? » Marian29, posted by johnnyj on May 1, 2006, at 8:59:54
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johnny,
I would stay away from trazadone... its an ANTIDEPRESSANT! and that is the very thing you are trying to kick, is it not???
Try chamomile tea, hot milk(natural sedative), calcium/Magnesium(natural muscle relaxant with the Magnesium part), before bed,,, also try to exercise regularlyGood luck
MuskyFor what it is worth my doctor said don't use bendryl. Something about the antihistamine effect combined with remeron's antihistamine stuff.
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> I am thinking xanax might be helpful? Any suggestions out there? We have trazadone mentioned and I will look into it.
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> johnnyj
Posted by musky on May 3, 2006, at 0:54:12
In reply to Re: Cut dose to 3.75 last night?, posted by anahata31 on May 1, 2006, at 9:36:33
> from johnnyj:
> > I am starting to think that maybe tapering is just prolonging the agony? And that I might be better served going to 0 from the 3.75 in a week or so.
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Right on nathalie!I agree with your attitude,, this post keeps me going too.. I too am on crumbs and the docs keep saying that there is no way i should feel anything at such a low dose,, HOWEVER homeopaths and my acupuncturist Both INSIST that the lower the dose the more the body WILL notice the change as it tries to create crisis to get the drug back into itself... like homepathic theory is based on the less the agent the more potent,, What i mean is at first when you are first taking Remeron it takes a while to build a "titer" in your blood stream... so that after a while you become "sensitized " to this drug,,, therefore now any little amount affects you.. almost like an allergic reaction... So im told that when you get completely off .. that thats when the real test comes in... im still trying to remain positive and have to remember how much is really the drug and how much is "anticipated" withdrawls.
I too find that when i keep busy, i forget im weaning and its not as bad..
As far as the fear of insomnia coming back,, i would rather be tired like you say and be free of this than be heavy headed and dizzy and tense every friggin morning after taking remeron the night before... even the 2mg still has this effect on me... We know our own bodies,,, NOT the p/docs!!!Good luck with your journey
Musky
> i hear you. i'm down to crumbs now - about 2 mg - and was wondering if i should just stop right now. i already experience withdrawal anyway, and i don't want to prolong the side-effects for longer than necessary. to tell the truth, i think a lot of it has to do with the fear of being pill-free. even though this is just what i want, i am so used to the habit of taking a pill before bed (before remeron, it was sleeping pills) that i am very nervous to go without. perhaps a natural supplement such as valerian will help. for now, i only go to bed when i feel tired, and if i don't get enough sleep, being light-headed for most of the day still is better than feeling full-headed and hangover after 8 or 9 hours of remeron sleep.
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> the main side-effects so far, besides insomnia, are dizzyness and some nausea. intense cravings for carbs and sugar are pretty much gone. i also definitely feel full much faster now, and lost about 5 pounds in the last two weeks. so, for the person who was wondering about the weight gain induced by remeron, in my experience, and if you exercice and eat well, you will lose most of it pretty fast.
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> i wish i could do something about the dizzyness, which tends to be worst after exercice, or even just walking. sitting down, drinking water are the only helpful things i can think of right now, but i know this is only temporary. i've also been experiencing all sorts of strange little things, like suddenly increased heart beat, some pressure in my chest, legs falling easily asleep, ears ringing, etc. i don't know how much of it has to do with withdrawal, of if it's anxiety, or if i'm simply too focussed on my physical state right now. what i know is, the less i think about it, and the more i get absorbed in activities i enjoy, the less it bothers me.
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> and it is the month of may. i can't think of a better time to be off chemicals. best of luck,
> nathalie
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Posted by musky on May 3, 2006, at 0:56:49
In reply to Re: Cut dose to 3.75 last night?, posted by johnnyj on May 1, 2006, at 10:06:47
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hey i forgot to mention too in previous posts that I was getting heart palpatations... again acupuncture has helped this believe it or not!And as far as sleeping aids.. try natural stuff ,,not addicting.. your doc, will just tell u about Rx. stuff,, thats ALL they know.
Good luck
MuskyI too have the nausea, and full chest. The full chest stuff was worse when I tried to taper before. But, that is denfinately a side effect. The sleep stuff is the most disturbing and I am going to see my doc in a week and get some ideas. I have some dizsiness but not too bad. The nausea started today, about day 7 or so of my reduction. Sleep meds worry me so I am just going to take something every other day or three if I have too. I do feel that my heart starts to beat faster for no apparent reason at times. I will not do much excercise because that might be too stimulating for me. I just want to SLEEP.
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> johnnyj
Posted by musky on May 3, 2006, at 1:06:30
In reply to Re: mirtazapine/remeron updates?, posted by Marian29 on May 2, 2006, at 16:51:54
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marian29 ,
try not to stress about the not sleeping,,, just keep saying calm thoughts to yourself if you wake up and/or cant fall asleep... I find this helps me
When my sleeping was broken while weaning , my acupuncurist treated for this and it works!! look into this form of therapy if you think this is for yu...
yes,,, valerian is good, but then can make you alittle wierd,, but then it isnt supposed to be taken while on an antidepressant really... and it is for short term use only..
try hot milk or chammomile tea..
Also calcium /magnesium supplements relax the muscles and promote sleep.
I also heard from a friend at work who suffers from anxiety that vitamin E and Vitamin C(i think?) are beneficial for this too.. antioxidants supposedly help with panic feelings, broken sleep etc.
let me know how you doMusky
Thanks for the advice. I'm going crazy due to insufficient sleep. But the insomnia isn't caused by the remeron withdrawal--I had that before I took the drug. I tried valerian, but it made me feel funny. Maybe I'll try melatonin again.
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Posted by anahata31 on May 3, 2006, at 8:40:16
In reply to Re: Cut dose to 3.75 last night?, posted by musky on May 3, 2006, at 0:54:12
from musky:
> I too am on crumbs and the docs keep saying that there is no >way i should feel anything at such a low dose,, HOWEVER >homeopaths and my acupuncturist Both INSIST that the lower >the dose the more the body WILL notice the change as it tries >to create crisis to get the drug back into itself...
thanks for your post -- it definitely got me thinking. what you (and your homeopath and acupuncturist) say makes a lot of sense, especially now that i am on such a low dose, and about to quit.
i remember when i first asked my pharmacist to cut the 30mg pills in 4 parts, and he told me "this is an homeopathic dose! you won't get any benefits, or feel anything really". it made me feel wrongly confident about how easy it would be to stop the medication, but i soon realized i was dealing with a pharmacist who was clueless about remeron.
i have a very kind and patient doctor, but i sometimes feel that he isn't entirely aware of how remeron can affect a person, even at low-dose, and that quitting isn't as easy as he says it is. after months and months of heavy sleep, the kind of which i've never had in my life, it is quite the lifestyle change to go back to my natural, light-sleeping ways (not to mention my natural, light-eating ways!) so i need to listen to my body, trust myself and my own will, instead of feeling weird that i'm having not so good of a time, when my doc says it should be as easy as 1-2-3. all the posts on here helps a lot - and good luck on your journey, too.
nathalie
Posted by jules354 on May 3, 2006, at 13:28:26
In reply to Re: Cut dose to 3.75 last night? » musky, posted by anahata31 on May 3, 2006, at 8:40:16
musky & nathalie,
my pdoc is also really great in some ways but after 4 weeks expressed surprise/doubt i was still feeling withdrawal symptoms. my sense is people just don't believe w/d can last a long time, makes me think there hasn't been a lot of research in that area. but it's been over 2 mos. and i'm still feeling the effects now and again (not depression recurrence but w/d). musky says it can be up to a year or more. what a drag! that's putting it mildly.
i hope your sleep gets easier soon...
take care,
jules
Posted by SandyWeb on May 3, 2006, at 14:04:11
In reply to Re: Cut dose to 3.75 last night?, posted by jules354 on May 3, 2006, at 13:28:26
All this talk about withdrawal symptoms, but isn't anyone feeling suicidal?? That's all I'm feeling day and night, and the crying rarely stops. Of course, that was the reason to go on the Remeron in the first place.....but I went from a size 7/8 to a size 16.....so Remeron was going to kill me with heart disease or diabetes if the suicide doesn't.
Isn't ANYONE feeling suicidal??? And how the heck are you guys functioning?? I'm going out of my mind here, and you guys are talking about sleepless nights.
Just rambling. I know I CAN'T be the only one experiencing this!
Sandy
Posted by little mommy on May 3, 2006, at 18:46:01
In reply to Re: Cut dose to 3.75 last night? » jules354, posted by SandyWeb on May 3, 2006, at 14:04:11
> All this talk about withdrawal symptoms, but isn't anyone feeling suicidal?? That's all I'm feeling day and night, and the crying rarely stops. Of course, that was the reason to go on the Remeron in the first place.....but I went from a size 7/8 to a size 16.....so Remeron was going to kill me with heart disease or diabetes if the suicide doesn't.
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> Isn't ANYONE feeling suicidal??? And how the heck are you guys functioning?? I'm going out of my mind here, and you guys are talking about sleepless nights.
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> Just rambling. I know I CAN'T be the only one experiencing this!
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> Sandy
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Dear SandyYes, for the first time in my life I could really feel why a person would want to commit suicide. I know I actually thought about it for myself but just briefly and I knew that it wasn't the answer as I couldn't imagine leaving my children, my husband but I can certainly see and understand why someone feels so bad that they feel that suicide is the only way out. Please, please, seek some help from a help line or a friend or suicide pervention place. You need to know that you are not alone in your fight with this.
Little Mommy
Posted by jules354 on May 3, 2006, at 19:22:02
In reply to Re: Cut dose to 3.75 last night? » jules354, posted by SandyWeb on May 3, 2006, at 14:04:11
hi Sandy,
it sounds like you're really hurting and i'm so sorry. Remeron is what helped me overcome my suicide feelings 7 years ago...there was no other drug that helped and i was on many many trials...i am so grateful to it for that. maybe it isn't the right time for you to be med free? i know the weight gain is really hard but staying alive is so important. have you talked to your doctor or therapist about how much your hurting?
take care,
jules
Posted by SandyWeb on May 3, 2006, at 19:50:48
In reply to Re: Cut dose to 3.75 last night?, posted by jules354 on May 3, 2006, at 19:22:02
Little Mommy and Jules,
We're not allowed to talk about the "S" word here on Dr. Bob's site. I just wanted to see if anyone else was feeling the same way since quitting the Remeron. I've been off it for almost one month now. It's not getting any better. But I just KNEW that I couldn't be the only one going through this.
God bless.
Sandy
Posted by musky on May 4, 2006, at 0:24:25
In reply to Re: Cut dose to 3.75 last night? » jules354, posted by SandyWeb on May 3, 2006, at 14:04:11
>Hey Sandy
Sorry to hear you are having a real bad time here.. and ya I did take a very bad dip here about 4 days ago,, first time in a long time since tapering... I just let it pass ... LITERALLY... try not to let it swallow you up... I really really believe that this remeron has screwed up the thought processes , emotions... and withdrawl does this too...
They even have warnings posted on the packages that say an a/d can INCREASE suicidal tendencies..
I dont know your situation... but BEFORE i started ANY a/d and especially Remeron did I EVER in my life FELT suicidal... that proves to me its the damn drugs!!!! I had been battling a chronic health issue(neck related, dizzyness) before all the meds started(never took them before) and of course i was depressed,, but NEVER HAD suicidal thoughts... I ended up in hospital and all that did was expose me to other patients who were negative, negative, and suicidal.. its no wonder I got it engrained in me from there too.. Since tapering I havent had as much frightening fantasies.. only that BAD dip a few days ago... like i said,,, I just faught it..Try not to let it eat you up... DO EVERYTHING to distract your mind.... exercise, try to sleep well, eat healthy and say positive affirmations to yourself ... FAKE IT TIL YOU MAKE IT ,,, if u have to... you will get better..
and yes me too I went from a size 5/7 to a 12!!! All bloated and felt totally ugly... Ive lost half of the wt now since tapering.. Hopefully I will lose the rest after im completely off.
I know these things take time.. you must be patientI have been seeing an amazing acupuncturist(traditional chinese),, who has stood by me all the way.... he has made a huge difference in helping me get off the meds...
Keep going... chin up... this too shall pass..
suicidal thoughts are just that THOUGHTS!!! they cannot harm you without your permission... and get a support network if you can.. a close friend, relative... crisis line, etc... anyone who will support you through this withdrawl and be FOR it not AGAINST it...Good luck
Hang in.. keep posting and you have this site as well and support from us who are on the same journey.Musky
All this talk about withdrawal symptoms, but isn't anyone feeling suicidal?? That's all I'm feeling day and night, and the crying rarely stops. Of course, that was the reason to go on the Remeron in the first place.....but I went from a size 7/8 to a size 16.....so Remeron was going to kill me with heart disease or diabetes if the suicide doesn't.
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> Isn't ANYONE feeling suicidal??? And how the heck are you guys functioning?? I'm going out of my mind here, and you guys are talking about sleepless nights.
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> Just rambling. I know I CAN'T be the only one experiencing this!
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> Sandy
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Posted by musky on May 4, 2006, at 0:36:26
In reply to Re: Cut dose to 3.75 last night?, posted by SandyWeb on May 3, 2006, at 19:50:48
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Sandy1 month isnt that long in the grand scheme of things... withdrawl takes along time.. and if you really want to be drug free you MUST keep going..
I found too that cognitive therapy really makes a difference in how you think about yourself and teaches you how to control your thoughts to a more positive attitude... try checking that out or mention to your doc about this..My acupuncturist says that withdrawl can take months or even up to a year... i dont want to sound so negative but I am willing to wait it out however long it takes.... Withdrawl is the body's way of trying to get u to take the drug again...
All it did was numb me and of course then the docs think you are better from your depression cause you arent showing any tears!!sheesh.. we are suppose to have emotion.. yes and i know not 24/7, but our bodies tell us this so we can help ourselves...
Hang in there..
ive had personal friends who say they didnt feel themselves until they were OFF the a/d drugs for at least a year! it depends on the body..
if you keep yourself busy it will be easier.
I myself have accepted the fact that I may not be the same for about a year and I am not being overwhelmed by this... I just go day by day... and keep hoping... I know that prayer has helped me cope as well along with all the other things I have mentioned here..
Keep going... every hour that passes remember your body is healing ... it knows what to do... so let it do it.. and please please dont isolate yourself... talk to people... here on this site, and anyone who will listen and Hold on to you..take care
Musky
Little Mommy and Jules,
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> We're not allowed to talk about the "S" word here on Dr. Bob's site. I just wanted to see if anyone else was feeling the same way since quitting the Remeron. I've been off it for almost one month now. It's not getting any better. But I just KNEW that I couldn't be the only one going through this.
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> God bless.
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> Sandy
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Posted by SandyWeb on May 4, 2006, at 11:51:49
In reply to Re: Cut dose to 3.75 last night?, posted by musky on May 4, 2006, at 0:36:26
Hi guys,
I've decided to go back on the Remeron. Which way do I want to die: heart disease, diabetes, or suicide? At least with heart disease and diabetes, I can TRY to modify some of my life styles: eating less (is that truly possible on Remeron???), exercise (I have a stair-stepper, if I could get the energy to get on the dang thing! Lol), and I don't drink or smoke. I do have the problem of being agoraphobic, so I don't get much walking exercise, but at least there are SOME things I can do to TRY and help myself (not much I can do about the snail-pace metabolism from Remeron, though).
As for "S", no....there's not a whole lot I can control in that department when I've reached that point. I attempted 2 years ago, and the Remeron has been saving my life since that time. If it only were not for the edema, the "Remeron Hunger", and the slow metabolism....the med would be perfect for me.
Maybe I'll try to stay at 30mg instead of 45mg this time? I know that 15mg really only has antihistamine properties, so you have to get higher in dosage to get the antidepressant effects. 45mg was perfect! 60mg was too high.
I truly hate having to go back on it, but like I said: how do I want to die? And at least with the Remeron, I'll get my rational thinking back again.
My 14-year old daughter is visiting me for the long weekend (coming this afternoon! Yeah!!!), so I'll wait until Monday night to go back on it. I'll start at 30mg since I'm not interested in the antihistamine effects of 15mg.
Going back on doesn't solve ANY of my problems, but maybe I'll see some sort of solution that I just can't find in my de-Remeron-ed head! Lol.
Good luck to all the rest of you. I never experienced all those withdrawal symptoms you were all talking about, so I guess maybe the Remeron liked my body chemistry better than yours. Maybe I'll always be on it.
If anyone knows of a way to kick up your metabolism, or better yet, of an appetite suppressant (Topamax worked GREAT, I lost quite a bit of weight, but it wasn't approved by my provincial med plan)...PLEASE throw some suggestions my way! Stimulants?? What?? I gave away all my "big girl" pants because I thought I was off the Remeron for good.
It sounds like you guys are going to make it! Yeah!!! I'm really happy for you! I would think the edema would disappear first, and then you'll see the weight coming off. Isn't it great? Makes you feel happy, doesn't it? Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hugs,
Sandy
Posted by johnnyj on May 4, 2006, at 15:53:36
In reply to Re: Cut dose to 3.75 last night?, posted by musky on May 4, 2006, at 0:36:26
Well, after a rough few days things have evened out. But dose to 3.75 about 10 days ago. Day 6 through about 8 were not fun. I had a nagging anxiety that I know now was pure withdrawal. No sleep on Sunday night and last night I got about 7 hours with no sleep meds used.
I feel that I will dissolve my sol tabs and go down to 1.5 mg and see what happens. I will wait about 10 days before I do that though. The brain needs some time to heal ya know?
I was feeling like I wanted to die on Sunday night and Monday. It was that bad. Amazing what an improved nights sleep can do. I just didn't feed the anxiety and just let it pass without a fight. Today I just have a headache and some tight chest stuff, and of course the sponge brain. That is a little better though.
Good luck everyone and keep at it. However, we all do what we must to feel better. From what I can tell some needed to go back on and that is ok. You have to please yourself.
cheers
johnnyj
Posted by jeninco on May 4, 2006, at 16:03:14
In reply to Finally, posted by johnnyj on May 4, 2006, at 15:53:36
Good for you. I'm one of those that had to go back on. No support from the doctor as far as dealing with symptoms, my insurance stopped covering insomnia medication and despite what others say I can't continue days on without sleep. The headache and nauseau were really horrible too (I made it to day 18 I think but stopped without tapering).
I hope you can pull through! I went on this medication for insomnia and see nothing for me has changed.
Posted by jules354 on May 5, 2006, at 11:06:34
In reply to Finally, posted by johnnyj on May 4, 2006, at 15:53:36
so glad to hear things have evened out. hope they continue to, too!
take care,
jules
Posted by cashy72 on May 6, 2006, at 6:18:22
In reply to Re: Finally » johnnyj, posted by jules354 on May 5, 2006, at 11:06:34
hey Jonny, glad things are progressing not too bad for you... it's really tricky coming down the dose isn't it.
Last night i cut in half my 15mg, so took 7.5mg. i took it just before bed, and 5 mins later when i'd got into bed i felt really freaky! Heart was beating really strong, and my breathing was strange! Is that just a symptom of lowering the dose or what??!! Didn't sleep too good either..
What do you reckon.
Cheers. Cashy72. I think i will stick with it though, and continue at 7.5mg.
Posted by johnnyj on May 6, 2006, at 12:51:24
In reply to Re: Finally, posted by cashy72 on May 6, 2006, at 6:18:22
Definately because of the lowered dose. I had the same thing quite often on 7.5. I think there is something about the dose at 7.5 that contributes to a lot of physical effects. I have found the 3.75 dose mush smoother than 7.5. Sure there was withdrawal going to it but since I am at it right now I have no startle, much less sponge brain and I am sleeping better. I wouldn't stay on 7.5 if I was trying to wean off for a long period of time. I was on it for 5 or 6 months and it was not a good dose for ME.
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