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Posted by Deneb on December 13, 2005, at 13:35:35
In reply to Re: being anxious, posted by Dr. Bob on December 13, 2005, at 7:05:27
> I agree, think of it as a conversation and not as something adversarial.
Adversarial...I choose adversarial LOL. Just kidding, I choose to think of it as a conversation with strangers in a big scary room. :-) Someone please be my partner so I won't have to face a scary crowd all by myself!
>It's fine to call me over, but I think you'll be fine and that won't be necessary.
You'll come save me if people start pointing and laughing at me right? ROFL
> I agree with Tamar. But you might be able to go to another session on Sunday if you want. It wouldn't be like ours, but it might still give you an idea of what the meeting's like.
I would like to attend a session ahead of time to see what the meeting's like.
Deneb
Posted by LegWarmers on December 14, 2005, at 11:04:54
In reply to Re: being anxious, posted by Deneb on December 13, 2005, at 13:35:35
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> You'll come save me if people start pointing and laughing at me right? ROFL:) if anyone starts laughing and pointing I hope that that person would get tackled but you could also start laughing and pointing back at them and tell them their toupee is lopsided :)
Posted by Poet on December 15, 2005, at 11:59:13
In reply to Re: I like the room » Dr. Bob, posted by AuntieMel on December 13, 2005, at 9:36:49
I don't suppose I request that my small group be able to hide in the back of the room?
I know this is early, but I start panicking early. I imagine that I'll be the only poster there. While I love to be alone, alone in a room full of pdocs scares the h*** out of me.
I'm thinking of arriving on Sat. May 20 and leaving Tues. May 23. Anybody else thinking of making it a long weekend?
Poet
Posted by AuntieMel on December 16, 2005, at 9:56:37
In reply to Re: I like the room- when are people arriving? » AuntieMel, posted by Poet on December 15, 2005, at 11:59:13
I don't know about arriving, but...
How about you and I group together (others are welcome too) for a group. I have no qualms about making a fool of myself.
Posted by ClearSkies on December 17, 2005, at 12:54:48
In reply to Re: I like the room- when are people arriving? » Poet, posted by AuntieMel on December 16, 2005, at 9:56:37
Count this fool in, too. I'll be adding a few days on to the trip to see family in the area. Babble activities will take first priority!!
CS
Posted by poet on December 17, 2005, at 13:02:22
In reply to Re: I like the room- when are people arriving? » Poet, posted by AuntieMel on December 16, 2005, at 9:56:37
We're a group. Clearskies, too. And who else wants to join in?
I do have qualms about making a fool of myself, but there's safety in numbers.
Poet
Posted by Deneb on December 17, 2005, at 14:36:41
In reply to Re: I like the room- when are people arriving? » AuntieMel, posted by Poet on December 15, 2005, at 11:59:13
> I know this is early, but I start panicking early. I imagine that I'll be the only poster there. While I love to be alone, alone in a room full of pdocs scares the h*** out of me.
Me too. I'm seriously scared. This is going to be big, really big...like someone with agoraphobia going to Disneyland.
> I'm thinking of arriving on Sat. May 20 and leaving Tues. May 23. Anybody else thinking of making it a long weekend?
I'll make it a long weekend if others are.
Deneb
Posted by Deneb on December 17, 2005, at 14:50:49
In reply to Re: I like the room- when are people arriving? » AuntieMel, posted by ClearSkies on December 17, 2005, at 12:54:48
> Count this fool in, too. I'll be adding a few days on to the trip to see family in the area. Babble activities will take first priority!!
> CSIf more posters group together, then I imagine the group can get pretty big. I don't know if I can talk to a big group. You guys are talking to a person who has never raised her hand in class to answer or ask a question without her heart beating so fast she thinks it will stop. I raise my hand in class maybe once a year. I think I'm going to have to ask my pdoc for some propranolol just in case I can't handle it.
I *might* be able to handle 3 or 4 other people in my group. I think I'll be just as nervous around posters as the pdocs...people are people.
Deneb
Posted by ClearSkies on December 17, 2005, at 20:06:39
In reply to Re: I like the room- when are people arriving?, posted by Deneb on December 17, 2005, at 14:50:49
I think it might depend a bit on timing. Some people might arrive earlier and leave earlier, whereas other might arrive late and stay later... so the size of our Babble groups could be small or not-so-small, or multiple groups. I think there are enough varying places of interest that we'll be able to have a lot going on and keep groups at reasonable sizes.
I think that comfort is key.
Posted by Deneb on December 18, 2005, at 14:51:28
In reply to Re: I like the room- when are people arriving? » Deneb, posted by ClearSkies on December 17, 2005, at 20:06:39
No one seems to be talking about the handout anymore.
Deneb
Posted by Poet on December 27, 2005, at 8:58:18
In reply to Is there still interest for a handout?, posted by Deneb on December 18, 2005, at 14:51:28
Hi Deneb,
Are there requirement guidelines we should go by? I know that anything we do has to be approved in advance.
Any format and content assistance is appreciated. I don't want Deneb and the rest of us to come up with something that won't be approved.
Also, if you don't want handouts, that's okay, too. Your name will be on the presentation, unless you use a good alias, sorry, Poet is taken.
Then again, I'll sell you the rights to the name pretty cheap.Poet
Posted by gardenergirl on December 27, 2005, at 11:44:53
In reply to Dr. Bob- Handouts, posted by Poet on December 27, 2005, at 8:58:18
Posted by Deneb on January 16, 2006, at 0:43:32
In reply to Dr. Bob- Handouts, posted by Poet on December 27, 2005, at 8:58:18
> Are there requirement guidelines we should go by? I know that anything we do has to be approved in advance.
>
> Any format and content assistance is appreciated. I don't want Deneb and the rest of us to come up with something that won't be approved.Dr. Bob, you didn't answer Poet's questions.
What are the requirements we have to meet in order to be approved?
> Also, if you don't want handouts, that's okay, too.
Should we take a vote? Who wants a handout? Who doesn't want a handout? Who doesn't care either way? LOL
Deneb
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 17, 2006, at 18:42:18
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob- Handouts, posted by Deneb on January 16, 2006, at 0:43:32
> > Are there requirement guidelines we should go by?
I'm not aware of any guidelines.
But we should get moving on this... I think people who are coming can always say what they want to say there, but the handout is the only way people who aren't coming will be able to be "heard". So if you're not coming, but would like to share your experiences, how about if you either post something here or email me?
Another idea was to include the Wikipedia page that was created:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psycho-Babble_%28virtual_community%29
But it seems it may be deleted...
Bob
Posted by Deneb on January 18, 2006, at 19:47:43
In reply to Re: Handouts for Toronto, posted by Dr. Bob on January 17, 2006, at 18:42:18
...post your thoughts, opinions and experiences here or e-mail them to Dr. Bob.
We can include them in the handout.
We are *fast* approaching the deadline for the handout submission...Feb.4th
We gotta move on this if we want a handout.
Deneb
Posted by linkadge on January 26, 2006, at 14:47:10
In reply to Re: presenting in toronto » Dr. Bob, posted by Poet on September 7, 2005, at 19:06:36
I live about an hour from Toronto. If I could get a ride, and get off work, I'd love to go to something like this.
If anyone's going to Toronto south on the 400, give me an email [xxx]
Am I too late to be interested ?
Linkadge
Posted by ClearSkies on January 29, 2006, at 0:56:30
In reply to Re: presenting in toronto, posted by linkadge on January 26, 2006, at 14:47:10
Sorry, I would have had transportation and everything, but decided I couldn't attend due to issues with anxiety. I can certainly recommend cool and inexpensive places to hang out, though. It's a great city of ALL SORTS - no money to too much money.
I'd be happy to be your offsite tourguide.
Posted by fallsfall on January 29, 2006, at 8:30:40
In reply to Re: presenting in toronto » linkadge, posted by ClearSkies on January 29, 2006, at 0:56:30
I hope that people keep in mind that there will be two separate things happening in Toronto. That weekend (May 20, 21) there will be a get together. Like we did in Chicago last year. We can decide what we want to do in this get together. In Chicago, we had dinner, went on a architectural boat ride, walked through a stained glass museum, sat and chatted, got caught in the rain at lunch, went to the top of the [something or other] building to see the whole city at night, plus other things. It was a time when we could spend time together and find out that these "Babble" people are REAL people, and that they really are just like who we think they are. We need to start brainstorming things that we would like to do in Toronto.
The second activity is presenting to the American Psychiatric Association.
People can feel free to come for the party, but not do the presenting, or do the presenting but not come to the party, or do both.
I'm just afraid that people will say "Oh, I can't talk to a bunch of strange Pdocs, so I can't go to Toronto". The idea of combining the party with the conference was to make it easier for Dr. Bob to come, and to give us a chance to educate the pdocs. But the party is an event of its own!
Posted by Dr. Bob on February 4, 2006, at 11:55:16
In reply to Re: Handouts for Toronto, posted by Dr. Bob on January 17, 2006, at 18:42:18
> we should get moving on this... I think people who are coming can always say what they want to say there, but the handout is the only way people who aren't coming will be able to be "heard". So if you're not coming, but would like to share your experiences, how about if you either post something here or email me?
Handouts are due today, so this is your last chance...
Bob
> so far for the small groups we have:
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> AuntieMel
> Annierose
> fallsfall
> Poet maybe
> Dinah maybe
> daisym maybe
Posted by muffled on February 4, 2006, at 13:46:18
In reply to Re: Handouts for Toronto, posted by Dr. Bob on January 17, 2006, at 18:42:18
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> Another idea was to include the Wikipedia page that was created:
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psycho-Babble_%28virtual_community%29
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> But it seems it may be deleted...
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> Bob*****why was it deleted?
Posted by Dr. Bob on February 5, 2006, at 22:40:54
In reply to Re: Handouts for Toronto, posted by Dr. Bob on February 4, 2006, at 11:55:16
> Handouts are due today, so this is your last chance...
OK, I just went ahead with my introductory comments. FYI, it's (a large file) at:
http://www.dr-bob.org/download/handout.pdf
Comments are welcome. And may be incorporated into the workshop...
Bob
Posted by fallsfall on February 6, 2006, at 8:06:01
In reply to Re: Handouts for Toronto, posted by Dr. Bob on February 5, 2006, at 22:40:54
So you won't let us wear our rose colored glasses, huh?
You left A's full name in on page 7...
I find it interesting that the conflicting post that you include is from the Psych board. It might be worth talking about the different boards, and how they attract different kinds of people, and how the exerience on different boards can be very different. I guess I feel like I want to "defend" the psych board and say that we tend to be more fragile, but also more supportive of each other. Plus, I think that in this day and age the conflict might have been moved to the Admin board rather than playing out the whole thing on Psych.
This all probably says more about me than it does about Babble - but it seems like you are airing our dirty laundry, without really giving them a sense of what we look like on an average day. Maybe my sense of "average" is skewed, though, since I only venture from Psych occasionally to Social...
I'm not saying you shouldn't include this example. I guess I'm hoping that your talk will let them see that it isn't all conflict. And, selfishly, I don't want to spend the whole small group session talking about blocks. I want to talk about how much we help each other and care about each other - because that is what Babble is for me.
Posted by muffled on February 6, 2006, at 11:22:22
In reply to Re: Handouts for Toronto » Dr. Bob, posted by fallsfall on February 6, 2006, at 8:06:01
It might be worth talking about the different boards, and how they attract different kinds of people, and how the exerience on different boards can be very different. I guess I feel like I want to "defend" the psych board and say that we tend to be more fragile, but also more supportive of each other. Plus, I think that in this day and age the conflict might have been moved to the Admin board rather than playing out the whole thing on Psych.
- but it seems like you are airing our dirty laundry, without really giving them a sense of what we look like on an average day. Maybe my sense of "average" is skewed, though, since I only venture from Psych occasionally to Social...
I want to talk about how much we help each other and care about each other - because that is what Babble is for me.
***Bob, I think Falls has a point. I read it too, but I'm not so good at figgering what it was that bothered me about it so didn't post. I think it just sort of seemed like a sensationalistic example of what goes on here is all.
Theres a lot of little stuff that goes on, and sometimes there are the most beautiful posts imaginable....
I'm not a good writer and I'm a little scrambled, I wish I had more time to pick out some of those special posts.
Anyhow, thats what I think too.
Muffled
Posted by daisym on February 6, 2006, at 14:43:53
In reply to Re: Handouts for Toronto, posted by muffled on February 6, 2006, at 11:22:22
I think the posts you picked will spark discussion, which is what you want. But I agree that it is a limited representation of what goes on.
I would think of great interest to this audience might be the discussions of whether sites like Babble are a hinderence or help to a person's therapy. There was a recent thread on this as well as several occasions to write about the benefits of Babble over the past few years. I wrote a long post about why Babble is important that might be helpful. (Not to toot my own horn.) And I think there have been discussions about using email in therapy and phone calls to clients and gift giving and termination that all call out the view from the client side.
The other big thing that seems to have been overlooked are the guest experts who have joined us here. I think it adds interest and an element of credibility to Babble.
Mostly I think to limited handouts to that one thread gives the impression that we use this site in a superficial way, that it is about cliche client behavior or pathological dependency. You don't get a sense of the deep thought, pain or support shared here. Or the fun. The vacation club, camp comfort and a few other things leap to mind.
I know you don't have unlimited space. One of many frustrations...I so want to go.
Posted by Dr. Bob on February 6, 2006, at 16:49:11
In reply to Re: Handouts for Toronto » Dr. Bob, posted by fallsfall on February 6, 2006, at 8:06:01
> So you won't let us wear our rose colored glasses, huh?
:-)
> You left A's full name in on page 7...
Thanks, but in which post? I'm not seeing it...
> I find it interesting that the conflicting post that you include is from the Psych board.
I didn't mean to "pick on" Psychology, but that archive was high up in Google, and that thread was high up in that archive. And I'm supposed to talk about how I moderate, and when things are going well, I just sit around.
Plus I do think it's an interesting example because (1) the topic isn't discussed much, (2) it involved someone in the mental health field, and (3) I had to intervene twice.
But there's definitely more to the experience here than just that. That's why posters will have more time than I will. And why they'll be empowered to talk about what *they* think is important. :-)
Bob
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