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Posted by Phil on February 5, 2013, at 9:01:50
For any condition, what would you choose? For any DX, what are the serious butt kickers?
Does this have an answer? MonotherapySay for bipolar
Schizophrenia
Depression
GAD
Bipolar depression
Treatment resistant depression
etc.
ADHD
Posted by B2chica on February 5, 2013, at 9:42:15
In reply to If you had to name the 10 most powerful psych meds, posted by Phil on February 5, 2013, at 9:01:50
one would definately be Zyprexa, i've seen it rx'd for i think all you listed.
Posted by Phillipa on February 5, 2013, at 9:50:21
In reply to Re: If you had to name the 10 most powerful psych meds, posted by B2chica on February 5, 2013, at 9:42:15
At this point in time for myself none but what on but seems I can see at times what others might need. In real life especially. Phillipa
Posted by Phil on February 5, 2013, at 14:09:29
In reply to Re: If you had to name the 10 most powerful psych meds, posted by Phillipa on February 5, 2013, at 9:50:21
I guess this could fall into the stupid question pile but I do agree with Zyprexa.
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on February 5, 2013, at 16:35:30
In reply to If you had to name the 10 most powerful psych meds, posted by Phil on February 5, 2013, at 9:01:50
clomipramine
phenelzine
sertaline
tranylcypromine
chlorpromazine
olanzapine
clozapine
lithium
lamotrrigine
alprazolam
Posted by Phil on February 5, 2013, at 19:05:29
In reply to Re: If you had to name the 10 most powerful psych meds, posted by jono_in_adelaide on February 5, 2013, at 16:35:30
Thanks jono very interesting.
Posted by linkadge on February 5, 2013, at 19:10:55
In reply to Re: If you had to name the 10 most powerful psych meds, posted by jono_in_adelaide on February 5, 2013, at 16:35:30
lithium / depakote
amitriptyline / imipramine / clomipramine
clonazepam
olanzapine / clozapine
phenelzine / tranylcypromine (sp)
Posted by Phil on February 5, 2013, at 19:23:25
In reply to Re: If you had to name the 10 most powerful psych meds, posted by linkadge on February 5, 2013, at 19:10:55
I can vouch for Amitriptyline and Clonazepam. Interesting I just wish I knew why on some of these drugs. Never been that fluent in knowing the actions of drugs but have been good at swallowing them. This gives me stuff to read up on.
Posted by baseball55 on February 5, 2013, at 19:45:59
In reply to Re: If you had to name the 10 most powerful psych meds » linkadge, posted by Phil on February 5, 2013, at 19:23:25
Haldol knocks me for a loop. When I was in a hospital once and made a suicide attempt they shot me up with haldol and ativan and I slept for 15 hours.
Posted by rjlockhart37 on February 5, 2013, at 20:01:49
In reply to If you had to name the 10 most powerful psych meds, posted by Phil on February 5, 2013, at 9:01:50
bipolar
LithiumSchizophrenia
Older high potency antipsychotics, also clozapineDepression
Parnate - Nardil - MAOIS and PaxilGAD and insomnia
BarbituratesBipolar depression
Depakote, Tegretol, LithiumTreatment resistant depression
MAOISADHD
Desoxynnot real sure all the way how accurate that is....i rerember i used to post what where the most potent meds for everything back 9 years ago..i got obsessed lol
that's my 2cents...
r
Posted by Phil on February 5, 2013, at 20:03:55
In reply to Re: If you had to name the 10 most powerful psych meds, posted by rjlockhart37 on February 5, 2013, at 20:01:49
Good luck getting a script for Desoxyn.
Posted by Laney on February 5, 2013, at 20:10:12
In reply to Re: If you had to name the 10 most powerful psych meds » rjlockhart37, posted by Phil on February 5, 2013, at 20:03:55
I have never heard of desoxyn. I wonder why Nort. didn't make the cut? LOL?
Posted by rjlockhart37 on February 5, 2013, at 20:20:08
In reply to If you had to name the 10 most powerful psych meds, posted by Phil on February 5, 2013, at 9:01:50
lol phil i was writting the high potency meds for these conditions....desoxyn...you have go through failed attempts with dextroamphetamine, methyphenidate, and other stuff....and it depends on the doc....and most docs today won't do that....but still there's some....
but if i picked another med for ADHD would be Dexedrine......and for anxiety maybe...well xanax...and some other outdated benzos....besides barbituates.....get what im saying lol i wasnt saying these are the current meds they use....these are like the last resort high potency stuff...
r
Posted by Phil on February 5, 2013, at 21:39:31
In reply to Re: If you had to name the 10 most powerful psych meds, posted by Laney on February 5, 2013, at 20:10:12
Desoxyn is straight up methamphetamine.
Posted by Phil on February 5, 2013, at 21:46:19
In reply to Re: If you had to name the 10 most powerful psych meds, posted by rjlockhart37 on February 5, 2013, at 20:20:08
I had some friends go to Big Bend National Park 30 ago. http://www.nationalparkreservations.com/bigbend.php?gclid=CM6WwvfhoLUCFVSSPAodACMAUg
Very cool place but they were partying and said we had this speed, and I said meth? They said...Desoxyn! I just lmao. No wonder. Idiots.
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on February 5, 2013, at 22:01:31
In reply to Re: If you had to name the 10 most powerful psych meds, posted by rjlockhart37 on February 5, 2013, at 20:01:49
"GAD and insomnia
Barbiturates"I think the reason the benzodiazepines were so instantrly sucsessful as tranquilisers is thatt hey are better fpr anxirty than barbiturates - they can releive anxiety without sedating you.
Also, tolorance occurs much more slowly - the BMJ found that nitrazepam retained its efficenecy as a hypnotic for 26 weeks atleast, where as amylbarbitone started to lose efficiency after a few weeks, and by 6 months, was having in impact at all.
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on February 5, 2013, at 22:04:30
In reply to Re: If you had to name the 10 most powerful psych meds » rjlockhart37, posted by Phil on February 5, 2013, at 21:46:19
My mother was a pharmacisr, when she first left university she was a "mod" and used to like to stay out late dancing. Amphetamine use was common in the mod culture, and she always used to keep some Methedrine in her handbag so she could keep going, but because it wouldnt have done to be found with a bottle of methedrine, she used to put them in an aspirin bottle.
One night my grandfather found them and took three for his arthritis, they found him pacing up and down the verandah at 6am not having slept a wink and convinced he was going mad
Posted by Phil on February 5, 2013, at 22:33:57
In reply to Re: If you had to name the 10 most powerful psych meds, posted by jono_in_adelaide on February 5, 2013, at 22:04:30
HAHAHA!! What are they putting in aspirin these days??
Posted by sleepygirl2 on February 6, 2013, at 18:56:11
In reply to Re: If you had to name the 10 most powerful psych meds, posted by jono_in_adelaide on February 5, 2013, at 22:04:30
Awwww, your poor grandfather, but that is funny.
Posted by Zyprexa on February 11, 2013, at 21:05:56
In reply to If you had to name the 10 most powerful psych meds, posted by Phil on February 5, 2013, at 9:01:50
minus the ADHD, I would say Zyprexa!
Posted by CamW on February 12, 2013, at 22:48:06
In reply to If you had to name the 10 most powerful psych meds, posted by Phil on February 5, 2013, at 9:01:50
Hands down, but with many qualifiers, LSD + guided psychotherapy for certain major depressive disorders (the kind we used to call "reactive").
As for listing 10, it really depends upon diagnosis, but I'd include clozapine, lithium carbonate, opiates, dexadrine, thioridazine (with frequent heart monitoring), tranylcypromine, venlafaxine, amitriptyline, & MDMA.
Controversial? Yes!
Powerful? Definitely!
Would I use them clinically? Not all.- Cam
Posted by brynb on February 13, 2013, at 2:48:30
In reply to If you had to name the 10 most powerful psych meds, posted by Phil on February 5, 2013, at 9:01:50
With my recent experience, I'm gonna have to throw ketamine on the list...
-b
Posted by brynb on February 18, 2013, at 10:55:39
In reply to If you had to name the 10 most powerful psych meds, posted by Phil on February 5, 2013, at 9:01:50
Did anyone mention Thorazine?
Posted by Phil on February 18, 2013, at 12:10:59
In reply to Re: If you had to name the 10 most powerful psych meds » Phil, posted by brynb on February 18, 2013, at 10:55:39
I read about a drug in the same class as thorazine but they said it's 200 X as powerful. See if I can find it.
Posted by brynb on February 18, 2013, at 14:06:11
In reply to Re: If you had to name the 10 most powerful psych meds, posted by Phil on February 18, 2013, at 12:10:59
> I read about a drug in the same class as thorazine but they said it's 200 X as powerful. See if I can find it.
Eek! I was hit w/ Thorazine during a detox. I'm never at a loss for words, but I was literally tongue tied...:/
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