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Posted by zazenducke on October 16, 2012, at 10:44:29
In reply to deathometers are not thermometers » Phil, posted by zazenducke on October 16, 2012, at 10:40:48
Posted by zazenducke on October 16, 2012, at 11:01:15
In reply to deathometers are not thermometers » Phil, posted by zazenducke on October 16, 2012, at 10:40:48
> psychiatric medication often causes cognitive impairment and hostility as well as apathy
>
> there's death and then there's walking death
>
> your brain your choice
>
>obviously I was speaking generally and not to Phil in particular
One's brain one's choice
My brain my choice
etc etc etc
Posted by Phil on October 16, 2012, at 13:01:19
In reply to deathometers are not thermometers » Phil, posted by zazenducke on October 16, 2012, at 10:40:48
Haven't noticed side effects over the last 30 years on meds, thanks for the info.
Hostility? At Lou's post maybe? You don't have to take meds to get angry. The post was one of the worst I've seen here. Is he god? That upset me and it still upsets me.
And yes Z, my brain my choice. I know that and ask you to keep that in mind.
I don't like meds, shrinks, big pharma or little drug stores. But I like them all better than being curled up in bed for two weeks pleading with god to let me die.
Maybe I should take mineral, vitamins, colon cleansing, acupuncture, and herbs because people say these things help them. The odd thing is, I never met one of these people. I have a friend I've known since we were 6 years old. She's is currently trying mineral, vitamin type therapy with her shrink and the other doctors help. Do I say B... don't do it. Nope, I call her everyday and say, chin up, I'm praying for you. I care for you and lets hope this does the trick.
In fact, there are times I pray for everyone with MI that one day there will be a cure or treatments that have the side effects of a vitamin.
I truly believe that I would have never needed pills if I had not been exposed at a very young age to things that no child should witness. After I worked with the best therapist I've ever known, she was the one that introduced me to a psychiatrist.
This road has been hard but it's only made worse when someone tells me I'm wrong and you will pay for it. I've paid quite a lot already. If we met, and I don't even know if you're a man or a woman, doesn't matter. You would have no way to tell if I was sick and on meds. I can talk to anyone, I can make them laugh, and I hope I leave them with the feeling that I respect them. Everyone deserves that even people that try to treat their mental illness with pills. We do the best we know how to do.
Would I tell Michael J Fox that he will get brain damage from taking those meds and he should stop. Of course not because you see the before and after. Why would I say the same to someone with mental illness. Perhaps it's because no one can see it therefore it doesn't exist.
I go to a huge forum that has nothing to do with MI. I wrote my story and posted my picture underneath. The next day I was horrified and embarrassed that I did it. But I logged on and was shocked to tears at the 30 responses and multiple pm's and I'm still getting pm's two months later. A guy gave me his # and email so we talked. He ended the conversation with, Phil I'd rather lose two limbs than have this, my wife won't take 5 minutes to learn and she won't talk to me about it.
I wrote in my blog about it because it hit me hard.
If you can't tell I like to write but I write humor for fun. The last story I wrote I had a friend in NYC and another here in Austin say it's time to get a publisher.
So I don't think I have brain damage, I have heart damage. And that's where the humor comes from. OK, better stop.
Thanks for listening.
Posted by Phil on October 16, 2012, at 13:29:56
In reply to Re: deathometers are not thermometers » zazenducke, posted by Phil on October 16, 2012, at 13:01:19
A dear friend in New Yoak City, old what's her name, said I was a good conversationalist. I said of course, I've always cared about the environment. I told a friend about that and he said no Phil, She was saying you know how to bullsh*t. Oh.
I thought, that was nice of her seeing how New Yoakers are all supposed to be assh*les. Anyway so, I wrote this so she would know some shorter words for talking.Me and Phil shot the sh*t yesterday. Well he is one helluva bullsh*tter. What did he have to say? Sh*t I dunno I never listen to him. Me neither, nice guy though. I guess, says the same thing over and over story gets bigger every time. I'm supposed to see him tomorrow myself. What y'all gonna do? Ahh, drink a beer, shoot the sh*t. Well, he's a good bullsh*tter that's for sure. Tell him he still owes me 5 bucks. He's owes you money? No, but he can't remember sh*t so he'll think it's true, made $30 off him last year...tax free. Hey why was he in jail last week? Puked on a lady cop. Drunk driving? Naw, he was riding his daughters tricycle down the sidewalk and she saw him. Is that illegal? No, unless it's church time Sunday morning and you're drunk and nekkid. Boy we're gonna hear that story. Yup. Drunk nekkid bullsh*tter riding a tricycle pukes on a sergeant. She tazed him too. Was he being aggressive or something? Nope, he tried to bullsh*t his way out of it then he puked on her again. Boys downtown said she wanted to shoot him but didn't want to waste a perfectly good bullet. Wanna know where she tazed him? In the groin area. What did he say about that? Said it hurt like a mother f*cker but he had the best orgasm of his life. Now that is some bullsh*t there. Well, he is a good bullsh*tter. You got that right. Gotta like the guy though. Sh*t I guess I love him more than my own brother. I didn't know you had a brother. Yup, doing 15 federal time. What the hell did he do? Hijacked a semi hauling cigarettes. Seems like he got off light. He did, cause he got the wrong truck, no cigarettes. What was in it? Kids tricycles. I'll be godd*mn. Yup, we're surrounded by genius'.
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Posted by SLS on October 16, 2012, at 18:17:12
In reply to deathometers are not thermometers » Phil, posted by zazenducke on October 16, 2012, at 10:40:48
> psychiatric medication often causes cognitive impairment and hostility as well as apathy
>
> there's death and then there's walking deathThat's an interesting choice of words. That is *exactly* how I have described my illness in the past.
> your brain your choice
How does one come to choose?
- Scott
Posted by zazenducke on October 17, 2012, at 8:50:07
In reply to Re: deathometers are not thermometers » zazenducke, posted by Phil on October 16, 2012, at 13:01:19
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FihYsCy9x8A
Sorry if I annoyed you. I hope you're ok. I watched the movie Howl on netflix and thought of that prayer. I don't underestimate your pain phil. I can't imagine being able to pass for "normal" at least not for any length of time. Must be interesting like having a cloak of invisibility. I don't like to write. You are good at it. I'm glad you have friends with you online anyway. Remember the Alamo or try to forget it whichever makes you feel better.
Posted by Phil on October 17, 2012, at 11:50:44
In reply to Re: deathometers are not thermometers, posted by zazenducke on October 17, 2012, at 8:50:07
I do have real life friends. One for 33 years and he's heard it all from me. I try not to continually blabber on about my problems. But!! Me and my gf and him were riding around San Antonio one night tripping on acid. I lived there a long time but we were peaking on this stuff and I had no idea where we were. My gf and I went into a convenience store and when we came out he was gone. lol.
Not sure I ever got an explanation but I let it go. My gf at the time hates his guts still.
I've got to add that he is the most intelligent person I have ever known. Photographic memory. I'm the exact opposite. One night we were listening to Alice Cooper and I said R I really wish we could have seen them. He said we did. I said really, how was it, great show Philly, should have been there.Honestly, I could stay busy everyday with friends because in general I'm a pretty good guy, polite, have manners, and I listen. It's me that moans, I love being alone at home and I can be on this computer for 12 hours a day and not be bored.
When I got out of the psych ward and returned to work I made a stealth move for my cubicle. Two guys, both outdoorsy types, 6'5 and big, walked up to me and didn't say a word. Dave looked me in the eyes and shook my hand. Jay did the same and he did say, great to have you back Phil.
When these solid gold human beings walked away I made a beeline for the bathroom. I know I write $100 replies to a $20 question but these guys had never been around MI. Yet, what class. (again I cry) If they wouldn't have laid off so many of us I would still be working with these people and I miss them. I would not be on disability and I would be building my pension.
Not sure what the heck we were talking about ZZ but I appreciate your response and the video which shouldn't take me over a month to figure out what he's talking about.
Wanna hear my favorite Alice Cooper song?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1g4NT0t9h4
Posted by Lou Pilder on October 17, 2012, at 20:27:42
In reply to Lou's Little Shoppe-death-o-meter, posted by Lou Pilder on October 15, 2012, at 20:24:33
> > > > > > > > > > > > Friends
> > > > > > > > > > > > I can compute the probability of you dying in relation to how many years you have left to live based on the drugs yoiu take and for how long.
> > > > > > > > > > > > If you would like me to compute your chances of living as to how many years until your death, post here the following:
> > > > > > > > > > > > A. The drugs you take now
> > > > > > > > > > > > B. The amount of time you have taken each drug.
> > > > > > > > > > > > I will use advanced statistics to compute your chances of living. The death-o-meter is a general prediction so your results may vary. This is not to tell you to stop your drugs, for people kill themselves when in withdrawal. If you want to withdrawal from these drugs, I could help you, but the prohibitions here from Mr Hsiung to me prevent me from posting what is needed by me that IMHHHO could save your life.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > > > Many of you already know that there are members here that are searching for a way out. A way out of addiction, depression, anxiety fear of death and such. It has been revealed to me how one could do that. It seems to me that members here would want to know that and go to Mr Hsiung to have him change his policy as to the foundation of Judaism as revealed to me so that I could post here what could lead you out of the darkness of depression and adddiction into a marvelous light.
> > > > > > > > > > > This thread was innitated by me for those that want to kno how many years they could go by taking their drugs before the drugs kill them as there are statistics that can reveal that that I can tell you.
> > > > > > > > > > > Now I have posted here that I do not want to have you stop your drugs because in wihdrawal there are people that kill themselves. And I could help people withdrawal without killing themselves if the posts that could arouse antisemitic feelings that are allowed to stand and I have outstanding requests about, were made not outstanding. Can't you see, that when you are told that others are superior to Jews and that Jewish children can not have forgiveness from and eternal life from the God that they give service and worship to because they do not (redacted by respondent)Jesus whch Mr Hsiung allows here to stand and even allows the poster to write that the bible says such? I think that the member here have a duty to redacted by respondent) and support life. That is why thois thread is about death. I want you to live, not die. And if you do not like my attempt to save lives here then you can (redacted by respondent).
> > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > > Many of you may not know that I have been here a long time, even from the start. I have seen many members die here from the drugs. But now there is not much time left for some. You see, I see a great statistical anomoly. This is because IMHO there is an indoctrination that could be goin' on here to lead people to believe particular (false) ideas about Jews, and me as a Jew. And because of that IMHHHO there are going to be many people die here soon from the drugs that they take. It stands out to me so visible that I want to warn you of the hard rain that is going to fall. But as in the days of Noah, we have somerhing differnt here. One can get on the ark and the door will not be shut. For I have a way for you to have a way out of the deluge of death that I see coming here.
> > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > This thread is for people that want to know as to the drugs that they are taking, as to how long they could live until the drugs kill them. If I was to know the drugs taken and the amount of time I could compute statistically a probability for that. I also could use the archive for more definition. Now for those that are not interested, they could go elseware and even start a new thread with their ideas about drugs and death.
> > > > > > > > > So let it be for the interested people here. I come to offer help in relation to warning those that may be misled into thinking that these drugs could not kill them. They kill by many ways. One is by inducing a mind-altered state to compel them to want to kill themselves. This could happen in withdrawal and someone posted here that just switching drugs could cause one to kill themselves.
> > > > > > > > > Yet today, people here offer advise to others to switch drugs. They also offer advise to take a drug that could induce homocidal thinking and/or suicidal thinking.
> > > > > > > > > Here is one case of death here. The FDA now admits that a lot of these drugs can increase suicidal thinking. But it is much more than that. Look at the posts here of all those that want to kill themselves. Look also at the drugs that they list taking. And look at the drugs advised by others for them to take. Is it not plainly visible what is goin' on here? Is the road of druggin' leading to being free from depression and addiction, or are the drugs causing addicton and depression? And telling others to go down that road of drugs, I ask if they know what's waiting 'round the bend.
> > > > > > > > > I am prohibited here from posting what the scriptures that the Jews use prescribe to those that tell others to take mind-altering drugs. I am prohibited here from posting what IMHO could save your life. But I say to you, that 42,000 people or so died last year from these drugs and before that and after that, a progression that sums to a great multitude of deaths. I have seen the Great Multitude, for it has been revealed to me and I am prohibited from posting about that here by the prohibitions made to me by Mr. Hsiung. And going forward I think that the advertising and other aspects could make that number higher and going forward higher and higher. For you that are alive now, just remember those millions of deaths that could be counted of those that the drugs killed going forward and those that have already been killed going back 50 years.
> > > > > > > > > Hear is one post of those that killed themselves that were members here.
> > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20020308/msgs/3971.html
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > Here is a video that I would like for interested members here to view.
> > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > To see this video,
> > > > > > > > A. Pull up Google
> > > > > > > > B. Type in:
> > > > > > > > [youtube, Psychiatric drugs-search warnings,studies & side effects]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > One of the dta bases that I use to compute your chances are of your death from the drugs that you take come from that data base of the FDA. So if you wnt to contest their data, please contact them, not me. I do trust their data and so does the Mayo Clinic.
> > > > > > > Here is a link to show your chances of your death from taking xanax.
> > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/xanax/death
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > There are many ways that I use to cpmpute probabilities in relation to the chances of death from mind-altering drugs. One site from many that I use is as follows and you could look through the sit and make your own determination as to its credibility :
> > > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/aboutus
> > > > > > Then there are the posts by the members that have died here and as to how one could detrmoine if they killed hemselves. Some have emails from their survivors saying that they killed themselves. Then there are the posts by the members that could say that they had suicidal thinking after taking a drug. hen there is the report that he person died from "accidental overdose". The drug did kill thembut there is the question fo how could someone accidental overose when they were taking psychotropic drugs as prescribed at a particular dosage? ANd who is to determine if the death was accidental and how could that determination be made? Could not the person killed themselves deliberatly?
> > > > > > Then there is the deaths by heart attack or cardiac arrest.
> > > > > > Now in the cases where there was not heart conditions present before the drugs, then that could be evidence that the drug did the killing and there are forensic tests if the family or police and such so want. Then there is liver failure, and other organ failures that can be determined as to if the drug caused the death.
> > > > > > Now the statistics from the FDA say what is what. And ehealthme uses those statistics and others.
> > > > > > Here is another link;
> > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/risperdal/death
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Friends,
> > > > > Now here comes some ways that I compute the chances of death. for instance, in the Risperdal stat, which is over 4%, we have the following reasoning depicted by ehealthme. But it is much more than that. Another aspect that I use is if the member is advised to swith their drug . And then does the member have the way to by-pass the psychiatrist/doctor/prescriber and take the advised drug behind the prescriber's back. Now if the psychiatrist/prescriber is doing what is right in relation to giving drugs, then could not one telling the prescriber that they want another drug lead the prescriber to think that they are a bozo for not issueing the drug in the first place? Can you not see that there is a danger here by people advising others to take a drug that is not prescribed to the other? And could not death result if the person skips their doctor's visit to get a prescription for the drug? And could not a case be made to arrest the advisor if the other member dies from the drug advised to take? Maybe that person is allergic to the advised drug and dies from one pill.
> > > > > Here is another link
> > > > > Lou
> > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/paxil/death
> > > >
> > > > Friends,
> > > > I see the door shutting here. As in the days of Noah, there was a warning from one that knew. Now I know from what I see statistically that many could die here, soon. I base this on what is plainly visible to me here. You see, when the dice are rolled over and over, for years upon years, the probability becomes accurate. You could roll the dice 65 times and snake-eyes might not come up. But if you roll the dice 10,000 times and record each number, snake-eyes could approach its true probability. (1 in 36)
> > > > So I see a catastrophy here coming. A catastrophy of death.
> > > > BUt let's suppose that one takes multiple drugs. Then does not the probability of death equal the sum of the probabilities?
> > > > Lou
> > > > So let's look at:
> > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/prozac/death
> > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/celexa/death
> > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/luvox/death
> > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/lexapro/death
> > >
> > > Friends,
> > > Now these:
> > > Lou
> > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/zoloft/death
> > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/zyprexa/death
> > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/geodon/death
> > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/lamictal/death
> > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/imipramine/death
> >
> > Friends,
> > Let's look at more of that I use to determine how long one could live with the knowledge of what drugs they take and for how long. There is much more that I use also. The site , ehealthme, has statisics that I use but that is only one part of what I use. The site uses a {population}. The population is those that have recorded FDA and other agencies reports from those that use the drug in queston. That is only one population that I use. There are many other populations such as {clinical trials} and more.
> > So I am not only using the data from ehealthme, which they obtain a lot from the FDA.
> > There is a lot of mathematics involved here. One concept that is important here is {ratio and proportion}. Another is what is known as the {standard deviation} and another known as the{mean proportional}. This is some of what is involved in the statistical analysis of data. This leads to interpretaion of {causation}.
> > I intend to develop this here so that your undertanding of data could be understood better.
> > Now the concept of {ratio} is ancient and what people here could be disallowed from knowing by the nature of the prohibitions to me here by Mr Hsiung, is that he word {ratio}comes from the ancient Greek language as {logos} as their word for {reason} or, {word} which involves tha foundation of Judaism as revealed to me that is prohibited by Mr Hsiung to me to post here.
> > Now some of you may have a door opened here to see a light penatrating here if you have been following my attempts to save lives here by and through the {Word} or {logos}.
> > Lou
> >
> Friends,
> If you are considering being a discussant in this thread, or an interested party tryoing to make a more-informed decision as to either take mind-altering psychiatric drugs or considering a way to be free from the drug that you are taking, I am requesting that you read the following.
> Lou
> To see this article:
> A. Bring up Google
> B. Type in:
> [Three New Studies Show Psychiatric Drugs Provide]
> Posted by childsafety on Aug 17, 2011Friends,
If you are an interested person here, I am requesting that you view the following video.
This video features Dr. Peter Breggin as he explaines how psychotropic drugs effect the brain.
I am requesting that discuusants here view this so that we could referr to what is contained in the video.
Parents may also want to view this in order to make a more-informed decision as to drug your son, your daughter or even yourself.
Later, I wil post how these drugs can kill your child or yourself, or give them a life-ruining condition or addiction. You may also want to view part one and the other parts.
Let us start with part 2.
Lou
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4Xb29geVwE
Posted by Phil on October 18, 2012, at 0:19:41
In reply to Lou's Little Shoppe-death-o-meter, posted by Lou Pilder on October 17, 2012, at 20:27:42
Now I know from what I see statistically that many could die here, soon.
_____________________How long have I got, Doc? Shouldn't I be dead? 80 meds...30 years, not counting street drugs, cigarettes and unprotected sex?
Why would I want to know when I will die? Do you? You could be in a car crash and die tomorrow. Or have a heart attack or stroke. You could go to a movie theater and get gunned down by a madman. It could happen to me too.
Would it be right for me to know that a friend is on Prozac and I say, friend do you want to know when you're going to die because I'll tell you. I dunno, kind of bad manners I think.
It's water under the bridge. My goose is cooked. If people really believe you are god and you know when they will die, don't you think that may freak them out just a bit?
Shall we take every psychotic person off of their meds so they can live a long psychotic life?
You could have a tumor festering in your brain as we speak which is the only way I can imagine that you're doing this. Good intentions aren't enough on your part. We already have serious mental health issues and all the joy that goes along with that. And now a guy is going to use statistics and horrible judgement to tell me when I'll die?
It's a more or less free country so you can do what you like. But my health will be guided by my research and my doctors. And if they are wrong and I die tomorrow, then I'm dead. No Jesus, no hell, only ashes to be thrown to the wind. Free at last.
Posted by zazenducke on October 18, 2012, at 3:41:49
In reply to Lou's Little Shoppe-death-o-meter, posted by Lou Pilder on October 17, 2012, at 20:27:42
Hi Lou
How are you? I feel awful to tell the truth. Maybe it's the change of seasons. Is autumn beautiful where you are? Sorry if the link to Ginsberg I put in was offensive to you if it was. It did seem like a prayer. Babble is the meanest board I've ever seen. I hope you have plenty of people to love you in real life. Do you think God loves people any less because they want to drug themselves? Do you think everywhere is holy because God is everywhere? Do you believe the poem that says there are no unholy places only desecrated places?
Why does everything hurt so much? Why do people have to die? Have you ever been to Israel? I'd like to go there. So those are my 3:40 AM blues
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Isaiah 53-55
53 Who hath believed our report? And to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed?2 For He shall grow up before Him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground. He hath no form nor comeliness, and when we shall see Him, there is no beauty that we should desire Him.
3 He is despised and rejected of men, a Man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief. And we hid as it were our faces from Him; He was despised, and we esteemed Him not.
4 Surely He hath borne our griefs and carried our sorrows; yet we did esteem Him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
5 But He was wounded for our transgressions; He was bruised for our iniquities. The chastisement of our peace was upon Him, and with His stripes we are healed.
6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on Him the iniquity of us all.
7 He was oppressed, and He was afflicted, yet He opened not his mouth; He is brought as a lamb to the slaughter; and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so He openeth not His mouth.
8 He was taken from prison and from judgment; and who shall declare His generation? For He was cut off out of the land of the living; for the transgression of My people was He stricken.
9 And He made His grave with the wicked, and with the rich in His death, because He had done no violence, neither was any deceit in His mouth.
10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise Him; He hath put Him to grief. When thou shalt make His soul an offering for sin, He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in His hand.
11 He shall see of the travail of His soul, and shall be satisfied. By His knowledge shall My righteous Servant justify many, for He shall bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore will I divide Him a portion with the great, and He shall divide the spoil with the strong, because He hath poured out His soul unto death. And He was numbered with the transgressors; and He bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
54 Sing, O barren, thou that didst not bear! Break forth into singing and cry aloud, thou that didst not travail with child! For more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife, saith the Lord.
2 Enlarge the place of thy tent, and let them stretch forth the curtains of thine habitations; spare not, lengthen thy cords, and strengthen thy stakes.
3 For thou shalt break forth on the right hand and on the left, and thy seed shall inherit the Gentiles, and make the desolate cities to be inhabited.
4 Fear not; for thou shalt not be ashamed; neither be thou confounded, for thou shalt not be put to shame: for thou shalt forget the shame of thy youth, and shalt not remember the reproach of thy widowhood any more.
5 For thy Maker is thine husband the Lord of hosts is His name and thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; the God of the whole earth shall He be called.
6 For the Lord hath called thee as a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth, when thou wast refused, saith thy God.
7 For a small moment have I forsaken thee, but with great mercies will I gather thee.
8 In a little wrath I hid My face from thee for a moment, but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the Lord thy Redeemer.
9 For this is as the waters of Noah unto Me; for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth, so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee nor rebuke thee.
10 For the mountains shall depart and the hills be removed, but My kindness shall not depart from thee, neither shall the covenant of My peace be removed, saith the Lord that hath mercy on thee.
11 O thou afflicted, tossed with tempest and not comforted, behold, I will lay thy stones with fair colors and lay thy foundations with sapphires.
12 And I will make thy windows of agates and thy gates of rubies, and all thy borders of pleasant stones.
13 And all thy children shall be taught of the Lord, and great shall be the peace of thy children.
14 In righteousness shalt thou be established; thou shalt be far from oppression, for thou shalt not fear; and from terror, for it shall not come near thee.
15 Behold, they shall surely gather together, but not by Me; whosoever shall gather together against thee shall fall for thy sake.
16 Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy.
17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, and their righteousness is of Me, saith the Lord.
55 Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters; and he that hath no money, come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.
2 Why do ye spend money for that which is not bread, and your labor for that which satisfieth not? Hearken diligently unto Me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.
3 Incline your ear, and come unto Me; hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.
4 Behold, I have given him for a witness to the people, a leader and commander to the people.
5 Behold, thou shalt call a nation that thou knowest not, and nations that knew not thee shall run unto thee because of the Lord thy God, and for the Holy One of Israel; for He hath glorified thee.
6 Seek ye the Lord while He may be found, call ye upon Him while He is near.
7 Let the wicked forsake his way and the unrighteous man his thoughts; and let him return unto the Lord, and He will have mercy upon him, and to our God, for He will abundantly pardon.
8 For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, saith the Lord.
9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts.
10 For as the rain cometh down and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower and bread to the eater,
11 so shall My word be that goeth forth out of My mouth: It shall not return unto Me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
12 For ye shall go out with joy, and be led forth with peace; the mountains and the hills shall break forth before you into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands.
13 Instead of the thorn shall come up the fir tree, and instead of the brier shall come up the myrtle tree; and it shall be to the Lord for a name, for an everlasting sign that shall not be cut off.
Posted by zazenducke on October 18, 2012, at 4:01:09
In reply to Re: deathometers are not thermometers » zazenducke, posted by Phil on October 17, 2012, at 11:50:44
Thanks Phil you're a good person.
Posted by zazenducke on October 18, 2012, at 5:02:01
In reply to Lou's Little Shoppe-death-o-meter, posted by Lou Pilder on October 17, 2012, at 20:27:42
Carl Solomon was ginsbergs roommate in the looney bin. Breggin is right. and Ginsberg is right There isn't any chemical imbalance. There is a society that needs to drug people into submission and block the pain that comes from living in this world. The drugs don't treat an illness. They block the pain that is a natural reaction to the injuries caused by world we're living in. Breggin says Add drugs make animals into good cage animals and that's what drugs are meant to do to us. It's a horrible thing to see being done to anyone but especially children.
I'm with you carl solomon in rockland
Posted by zazenducke on October 18, 2012, at 5:36:13
In reply to Lou's Little Shoppe-death-o-meter, posted by Lou Pilder on October 15, 2012, at 20:24:33
Lou if Bob is prohibiting you from posting things that will save lives shouldn't you disobey Bob?
Don't you have a higher authority than Bob?
> > > > > > > > > > > > Friends
> > > > > > > > > > > > I can compute the probability of you dying in relation to how many years you have left to live based on the drugs yoiu take and for how long.
> > > > > > > > > > > > If you would like me to compute your chances of living as to how many years until your death, post here the following:
> > > > > > > > > > > > A. The drugs you take now
> > > > > > > > > > > > B. The amount of time you have taken each drug.
> > > > > > > > > > > > I will use advanced statistics to compute your chances of living. The death-o-meter is a general prediction so your results may vary. This is not to tell you to stop your drugs, for people kill themselves when in withdrawal. If you want to withdrawal from these drugs, I could help you, but the prohibitions here from Mr Hsiung to me prevent me from posting what is needed by me that IMHHHO could save your life.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > > > Many of you already know that there are members here that are searching for a way out. A way out of addiction, depression, anxiety fear of death and such. It has been revealed to me how one could do that. It seems to me that members here would want to know that and go to Mr Hsiung to have him change his policy as to the foundation of Judaism as revealed to me so that I could post here what could lead you out of the darkness of depression and adddiction into a marvelous light.
> > > > > > > > > > > This thread was innitated by me for those that want to kno how many years they could go by taking their drugs before the drugs kill them as there are statistics that can reveal that that I can tell you.
> > > > > > > > > > > Now I have posted here that I do not want to have you stop your drugs because in wihdrawal there are people that kill themselves. And I could help people withdrawal without killing themselves if the posts that could arouse antisemitic feelings that are allowed to stand and I have outstanding requests about, were made not outstanding. Can't you see, that when you are told that others are superior to Jews and that Jewish children can not have forgiveness from and eternal life from the God that they give service and worship to because they do not (redacted by respondent)Jesus whch Mr Hsiung allows here to stand and even allows the poster to write that the bible says such? I think that the member here have a duty to redacted by respondent) and support life. That is why thois thread is about death. I want you to live, not die. And if you do not like my attempt to save lives here then you can (redacted by respondent).
> > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > > Many of you may not know that I have been here a long time, even from the start. I have seen many members die here from the drugs. But now there is not much time left for some. You see, I see a great statistical anomoly. This is because IMHO there is an indoctrination that could be goin' on here to lead people to believe particular (false) ideas about Jews, and me as a Jew. And because of that IMHHHO there are going to be many people die here soon from the drugs that they take. It stands out to me so visible that I want to warn you of the hard rain that is going to fall. But as in the days of Noah, we have somerhing differnt here. One can get on the ark and the door will not be shut. For I have a way for you to have a way out of the deluge of death that I see coming here.
> > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > This thread is for people that want to know as to the drugs that they are taking, as to how long they could live until the drugs kill them. If I was to know the drugs taken and the amount of time I could compute statistically a probability for that. I also could use the archive for more definition. Now for those that are not interested, they could go elseware and even start a new thread with their ideas about drugs and death.
> > > > > > > > > So let it be for the interested people here. I come to offer help in relation to warning those that may be misled into thinking that these drugs could not kill them. They kill by many ways. One is by inducing a mind-altered state to compel them to want to kill themselves. This could happen in withdrawal and someone posted here that just switching drugs could cause one to kill themselves.
> > > > > > > > > Yet today, people here offer advise to others to switch drugs. They also offer advise to take a drug that could induce homocidal thinking and/or suicidal thinking.
> > > > > > > > > Here is one case of death here. The FDA now admits that a lot of these drugs can increase suicidal thinking. But it is much more than that. Look at the posts here of all those that want to kill themselves. Look also at the drugs that they list taking. And look at the drugs advised by others for them to take. Is it not plainly visible what is goin' on here? Is the road of druggin' leading to being free from depression and addiction, or are the drugs causing addicton and depression? And telling others to go down that road of drugs, I ask if they know what's waiting 'round the bend.
> > > > > > > > > I am prohibited here from posting what the scriptures that the Jews use prescribe to those that tell others to take mind-altering drugs. I am prohibited here from posting what IMHO could save your life. But I say to you, that 42,000 people or so died last year from these drugs and before that and after that, a progression that sums to a great multitude of deaths. I have seen the Great Multitude, for it has been revealed to me and I am prohibited from posting about that here by the prohibitions made to me by Mr. Hsiung. And going forward I think that the advertising and other aspects could make that number higher and going forward higher and higher. For you that are alive now, just remember those millions of deaths that could be counted of those that the drugs killed going forward and those that have already been killed going back 50 years.
> > > > > > > > > Hear is one post of those that killed themselves that were members here.
> > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20020308/msgs/3971.html
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > Here is a video that I would like for interested members here to view.
> > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > To see this video,
> > > > > > > > A. Pull up Google
> > > > > > > > B. Type in:
> > > > > > > > [youtube, Psychiatric drugs-search warnings,studies & side effects]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > One of the dta bases that I use to compute your chances are of your death from the drugs that you take come from that data base of the FDA. So if you wnt to contest their data, please contact them, not me. I do trust their data and so does the Mayo Clinic.
> > > > > > > Here is a link to show your chances of your death from taking xanax.
> > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/xanax/death
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > There are many ways that I use to cpmpute probabilities in relation to the chances of death from mind-altering drugs. One site from many that I use is as follows and you could look through the sit and make your own determination as to its credibility :
> > > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/aboutus
> > > > > > Then there are the posts by the members that have died here and as to how one could detrmoine if they killed hemselves. Some have emails from their survivors saying that they killed themselves. Then there are the posts by the members that could say that they had suicidal thinking after taking a drug. hen there is the report that he person died from "accidental overdose". The drug did kill thembut there is the question fo how could someone accidental overose when they were taking psychotropic drugs as prescribed at a particular dosage? ANd who is to determine if the death was accidental and how could that determination be made? Could not the person killed themselves deliberatly?
> > > > > > Then there is the deaths by heart attack or cardiac arrest.
> > > > > > Now in the cases where there was not heart conditions present before the drugs, then that could be evidence that the drug did the killing and there are forensic tests if the family or police and such so want. Then there is liver failure, and other organ failures that can be determined as to if the drug caused the death.
> > > > > > Now the statistics from the FDA say what is what. And ehealthme uses those statistics and others.
> > > > > > Here is another link;
> > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/risperdal/death
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Friends,
> > > > > Now here comes some ways that I compute the chances of death. for instance, in the Risperdal stat, which is over 4%, we have the following reasoning depicted by ehealthme. But it is much more than that. Another aspect that I use is if the member is advised to swith their drug . And then does the member have the way to by-pass the psychiatrist/doctor/prescriber and take the advised drug behind the prescriber's back. Now if the psychiatrist/prescriber is doing what is right in relation to giving drugs, then could not one telling the prescriber that they want another drug lead the prescriber to think that they are a bozo for not issueing the drug in the first place? Can you not see that there is a danger here by people advising others to take a drug that is not prescribed to the other? And could not death result if the person skips their doctor's visit to get a prescription for the drug? And could not a case be made to arrest the advisor if the other member dies from the drug advised to take? Maybe that person is allergic to the advised drug and dies from one pill.
> > > > > Here is another link
> > > > > Lou
> > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/paxil/death
> > > >
> > > > Friends,
> > > > I see the door shutting here. As in the days of Noah, there was a warning from one that knew. Now I know from what I see statistically that many could die here, soon. I base this on what is plainly visible to me here. You see, when the dice are rolled over and over, for years upon years, the probability becomes accurate. You could roll the dice 65 times and snake-eyes might not come up. But if you roll the dice 10,000 times and record each number, snake-eyes could approach its true probability. (1 in 36)
> > > > So I see a catastrophy here coming. A catastrophy of death.
> > > > BUt let's suppose that one takes multiple drugs. Then does not the probability of death equal the sum of the probabilities?
> > > > Lou
> > > > So let's look at:
> > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/prozac/death
> > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/celexa/death
> > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/luvox/death
> > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/lexapro/death
> > >
> > > Friends,
> > > Now these:
> > > Lou
> > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/zoloft/death
> > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/zyprexa/death
> > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/geodon/death
> > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/lamictal/death
> > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/imipramine/death
> >
> > Friends,
> > Let's look at more of that I use to determine how long one could live with the knowledge of what drugs they take and for how long. There is much more that I use also. The site , ehealthme, has statisics that I use but that is only one part of what I use. The site uses a {population}. The population is those that have recorded FDA and other agencies reports from those that use the drug in queston. That is only one population that I use. There are many other populations such as {clinical trials} and more.
> > So I am not only using the data from ehealthme, which they obtain a lot from the FDA.
> > There is a lot of mathematics involved here. One concept that is important here is {ratio and proportion}. Another is what is known as the {standard deviation} and another known as the{mean proportional}. This is some of what is involved in the statistical analysis of data. This leads to interpretaion of {causation}.
> > I intend to develop this here so that your undertanding of data could be understood better.
> > Now the concept of {ratio} is ancient and what people here could be disallowed from knowing by the nature of the prohibitions to me here by Mr Hsiung, is that he word {ratio}comes from the ancient Greek language as {logos} as their word for {reason} or, {word} which involves tha foundation of Judaism as revealed to me that is prohibited by Mr Hsiung to me to post here.
> > Now some of you may have a door opened here to see a light penatrating here if you have been following my attempts to save lives here by and through the {Word} or {logos}.
> > Lou
> >
> Friends,
> If you are considering being a discussant in this thread, or an interested party tryoing to make a more-informed decision as to either take mind-altering psychiatric drugs or considering a way to be free from the drug that you are taking, I am requesting that you read the following.
> Lou
> To see this article:
> A. Bring up Google
> B. Type in:
> [Three New Studies Show Psychiatric Drugs Provide]
> Posted by childsafety on Aug 17, 2011
Posted by zazenducke on October 18, 2012, at 6:24:54
In reply to Saving lives vs being civil » Lou Pilder, posted by zazenducke on October 18, 2012, at 5:36:13
. The Greek words for sorcery are: pharmakeia, pharmakeus, and pharmakos
Is big pharm big sorcery? Is that what Bob won't let you say?
It's ridiculous that you can't post anything you want when the Babblers are allowed to play doctor with each other and post really dubious and sometimes dangerous medical advice.
Posted by zazenducke on October 18, 2012, at 6:39:17
In reply to sorcery?, posted by zazenducke on October 18, 2012, at 6:24:54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoR23_308Q4
On your feet everybody!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Why am I dancing all alone?
Posted by Phil on October 18, 2012, at 9:45:43
In reply to Boot scootin music for depressos, posted by zazenducke on October 18, 2012, at 6:39:17
No mental illness so what it comes down to is you f* yourself from the start.
Posted by Lou Pilder on October 18, 2012, at 10:48:50
In reply to Saving lives vs being civil » Lou Pilder, posted by zazenducke on October 18, 2012, at 5:36:13
> Lou if Bob is prohibiting you from posting things that will save lives shouldn't you disobey Bob?
> Don't you have a higher authority than Bob?
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I can compute the probability of you dying in relation to how many years you have left to live based on the drugs yoiu take and for how long.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > If you would like me to compute your chances of living as to how many years until your death, post here the following:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > A. The drugs you take now
> > > > > > > > > > > > > B. The amount of time you have taken each drug.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I will use advanced statistics to compute your chances of living. The death-o-meter is a general prediction so your results may vary. This is not to tell you to stop your drugs, for people kill themselves when in withdrawal. If you want to withdrawal from these drugs, I could help you, but the prohibitions here from Mr Hsiung to me prevent me from posting what is needed by me that IMHHHO could save your life.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Many of you already know that there are members here that are searching for a way out. A way out of addiction, depression, anxiety fear of death and such. It has been revealed to me how one could do that. It seems to me that members here would want to know that and go to Mr Hsiung to have him change his policy as to the foundation of Judaism as revealed to me so that I could post here what could lead you out of the darkness of depression and adddiction into a marvelous light.
> > > > > > > > > > > > This thread was innitated by me for those that want to kno how many years they could go by taking their drugs before the drugs kill them as there are statistics that can reveal that that I can tell you.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Now I have posted here that I do not want to have you stop your drugs because in wihdrawal there are people that kill themselves. And I could help people withdrawal without killing themselves if the posts that could arouse antisemitic feelings that are allowed to stand and I have outstanding requests about, were made not outstanding. Can't you see, that when you are told that others are superior to Jews and that Jewish children can not have forgiveness from and eternal life from the God that they give service and worship to because they do not (redacted by respondent)Jesus whch Mr Hsiung allows here to stand and even allows the poster to write that the bible says such? I think that the member here have a duty to redacted by respondent) and support life. That is why thois thread is about death. I want you to live, not die. And if you do not like my attempt to save lives here then you can (redacted by respondent).
> > > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > > > Many of you may not know that I have been here a long time, even from the start. I have seen many members die here from the drugs. But now there is not much time left for some. You see, I see a great statistical anomoly. This is because IMHO there is an indoctrination that could be goin' on here to lead people to believe particular (false) ideas about Jews, and me as a Jew. And because of that IMHHHO there are going to be many people die here soon from the drugs that they take. It stands out to me so visible that I want to warn you of the hard rain that is going to fall. But as in the days of Noah, we have somerhing differnt here. One can get on the ark and the door will not be shut. For I have a way for you to have a way out of the deluge of death that I see coming here.
> > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > > This thread is for people that want to know as to the drugs that they are taking, as to how long they could live until the drugs kill them. If I was to know the drugs taken and the amount of time I could compute statistically a probability for that. I also could use the archive for more definition. Now for those that are not interested, they could go elseware and even start a new thread with their ideas about drugs and death.
> > > > > > > > > > So let it be for the interested people here. I come to offer help in relation to warning those that may be misled into thinking that these drugs could not kill them. They kill by many ways. One is by inducing a mind-altered state to compel them to want to kill themselves. This could happen in withdrawal and someone posted here that just switching drugs could cause one to kill themselves.
> > > > > > > > > > Yet today, people here offer advise to others to switch drugs. They also offer advise to take a drug that could induce homocidal thinking and/or suicidal thinking.
> > > > > > > > > > Here is one case of death here. The FDA now admits that a lot of these drugs can increase suicidal thinking. But it is much more than that. Look at the posts here of all those that want to kill themselves. Look also at the drugs that they list taking. And look at the drugs advised by others for them to take. Is it not plainly visible what is goin' on here? Is the road of druggin' leading to being free from depression and addiction, or are the drugs causing addicton and depression? And telling others to go down that road of drugs, I ask if they know what's waiting 'round the bend.
> > > > > > > > > > I am prohibited here from posting what the scriptures that the Jews use prescribe to those that tell others to take mind-altering drugs. I am prohibited here from posting what IMHO could save your life. But I say to you, that 42,000 people or so died last year from these drugs and before that and after that, a progression that sums to a great multitude of deaths. I have seen the Great Multitude, for it has been revealed to me and I am prohibited from posting about that here by the prohibitions made to me by Mr. Hsiung. And going forward I think that the advertising and other aspects could make that number higher and going forward higher and higher. For you that are alive now, just remember those millions of deaths that could be counted of those that the drugs killed going forward and those that have already been killed going back 50 years.
> > > > > > > > > > Hear is one post of those that killed themselves that were members here.
> > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20020308/msgs/3971.html
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > Here is a video that I would like for interested members here to view.
> > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > To see this video,
> > > > > > > > > A. Pull up Google
> > > > > > > > > B. Type in:
> > > > > > > > > [youtube, Psychiatric drugs-search warnings,studies & side effects]
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > One of the dta bases that I use to compute your chances are of your death from the drugs that you take come from that data base of the FDA. So if you wnt to contest their data, please contact them, not me. I do trust their data and so does the Mayo Clinic.
> > > > > > > > Here is a link to show your chances of your death from taking xanax.
> > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/xanax/death
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > There are many ways that I use to cpmpute probabilities in relation to the chances of death from mind-altering drugs. One site from many that I use is as follows and you could look through the sit and make your own determination as to its credibility :
> > > > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/aboutus
> > > > > > > Then there are the posts by the members that have died here and as to how one could detrmoine if they killed hemselves. Some have emails from their survivors saying that they killed themselves. Then there are the posts by the members that could say that they had suicidal thinking after taking a drug. hen there is the report that he person died from "accidental overdose". The drug did kill thembut there is the question fo how could someone accidental overose when they were taking psychotropic drugs as prescribed at a particular dosage? ANd who is to determine if the death was accidental and how could that determination be made? Could not the person killed themselves deliberatly?
> > > > > > > Then there is the deaths by heart attack or cardiac arrest.
> > > > > > > Now in the cases where there was not heart conditions present before the drugs, then that could be evidence that the drug did the killing and there are forensic tests if the family or police and such so want. Then there is liver failure, and other organ failures that can be determined as to if the drug caused the death.
> > > > > > > Now the statistics from the FDA say what is what. And ehealthme uses those statistics and others.
> > > > > > > Here is another link;
> > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/risperdal/death
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > Now here comes some ways that I compute the chances of death. for instance, in the Risperdal stat, which is over 4%, we have the following reasoning depicted by ehealthme. But it is much more than that. Another aspect that I use is if the member is advised to swith their drug . And then does the member have the way to by-pass the psychiatrist/doctor/prescriber and take the advised drug behind the prescriber's back. Now if the psychiatrist/prescriber is doing what is right in relation to giving drugs, then could not one telling the prescriber that they want another drug lead the prescriber to think that they are a bozo for not issueing the drug in the first place? Can you not see that there is a danger here by people advising others to take a drug that is not prescribed to the other? And could not death result if the person skips their doctor's visit to get a prescription for the drug? And could not a case be made to arrest the advisor if the other member dies from the drug advised to take? Maybe that person is allergic to the advised drug and dies from one pill.
> > > > > > Here is another link
> > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/paxil/death
> > > > >
> > > > > Friends,
> > > > > I see the door shutting here. As in the days of Noah, there was a warning from one that knew. Now I know from what I see statistically that many could die here, soon. I base this on what is plainly visible to me here. You see, when the dice are rolled over and over, for years upon years, the probability becomes accurate. You could roll the dice 65 times and snake-eyes might not come up. But if you roll the dice 10,000 times and record each number, snake-eyes could approach its true probability. (1 in 36)
> > > > > So I see a catastrophy here coming. A catastrophy of death.
> > > > > BUt let's suppose that one takes multiple drugs. Then does not the probability of death equal the sum of the probabilities?
> > > > > Lou
> > > > > So let's look at:
> > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/prozac/death
> > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/celexa/death
> > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/luvox/death
> > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/lexapro/death
> > > >
> > > > Friends,
> > > > Now these:
> > > > Lou
> > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/zoloft/death
> > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/zyprexa/death
> > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/geodon/death
> > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/lamictal/death
> > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/imipramine/death
> > >
> > > Friends,
> > > Let's look at more of that I use to determine how long one could live with the knowledge of what drugs they take and for how long. There is much more that I use also. The site , ehealthme, has statisics that I use but that is only one part of what I use. The site uses a {population}. The population is those that have recorded FDA and other agencies reports from those that use the drug in queston. That is only one population that I use. There are many other populations such as {clinical trials} and more.
> > > So I am not only using the data from ehealthme, which they obtain a lot from the FDA.
> > > There is a lot of mathematics involved here. One concept that is important here is {ratio and proportion}. Another is what is known as the {standard deviation} and another known as the{mean proportional}. This is some of what is involved in the statistical analysis of data. This leads to interpretaion of {causation}.
> > > I intend to develop this here so that your undertanding of data could be understood better.
> > > Now the concept of {ratio} is ancient and what people here could be disallowed from knowing by the nature of the prohibitions to me here by Mr Hsiung, is that he word {ratio}comes from the ancient Greek language as {logos} as their word for {reason} or, {word} which involves tha foundation of Judaism as revealed to me that is prohibited by Mr Hsiung to me to post here.
> > > Now some of you may have a door opened here to see a light penatrating here if you have been following my attempts to save lives here by and through the {Word} or {logos}.
> > > Lou
> > >
> > Friends,
> > If you are considering being a discussant in this thread, or an interested party tryoing to make a more-informed decision as to either take mind-altering psychiatric drugs or considering a way to be free from the drug that you are taking, I am requesting that you read the following.
> > Lou
> > To see this article:
> > A. Bring up Google
> > B. Type in:
> > [Three New Studies Show Psychiatric Drugs Provide]
> > Posted by childsafety on Aug 17, 2011
>
> ZZDucke,
You wrote at the top of this page that if (Mr Hsiung) is prohibiting me from posting what I think could save lives here,...].
I think that if one interested in this situation could go to the administrative board here, and post in the threads where I have outstanding requests to Mr Hsiung their concerns from their perspective, that then I could post my response to the member's concerns there.
Lou
Posted by Phil on October 18, 2012, at 13:55:55
In reply to Lou's reply-Saving lives vs being civil » zazenducke, posted by Lou Pilder on October 18, 2012, at 10:48:50
I don't like being ignored then go to the Admin and Lou posted that I'm anti-semitic when what I said was positive. Jews are the most charitable people in the world. My best friend is Jewish, I worked for a Jewish owned company for 7 years. There wouldn't be comedy without Jews. I've dated Jewish women.
He won't answer me here on this subject but takes something I didn't know he had a problem with and goes straight Admin.from 2002~~~~~~~
In reply to not anti-religion..., posted by krazy kat on May 26, 2002, at 11:28:03Friends,
I am not anti-medicine. I believe in medicine. I am not a member of the groups that deny their children to have medicine or blood transfusions to save their life. I believe that death is an enemy. And that we should fight the enemy.
((so ten years later I still believe in meds. Lou has evidently gone the other way and my agenda now should be his?))
________________________________________Another post: I'm not affiliated with any religion
________________________________________Another post, I'm Morman.
Bro you can't even spell Mormon.
_______________________________________Google Nazi White horse and read the posts from 2002. Or don't, I don't care.
________________________________________I think that Lou means well and I'll just leave it at that. I don't think he's a bad person. I just don't understand what he talks about.
I'm writing 3rd person because well just because. I'll chill I promise.
And I'll never post Lou's name again. I'm not trying to offend anyone including Lou and if I have I'm sorry.
Posted by schleprock on October 18, 2012, at 18:31:44
In reply to Lou's reply-Saving lives vs being civil » zazenducke, posted by Lou Pilder on October 18, 2012, at 10:48:50
I like Lou's Little Shoppe, it's like a cross between Cheers and Saw.
Posted by sleepygirl2 on October 18, 2012, at 18:36:30
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-Saving lives vs being civil, posted by schleprock on October 18, 2012, at 18:31:44
That was funny :-)
Posted by Lou Pilder on October 19, 2012, at 5:57:35
In reply to sorcery?, posted by zazenducke on October 18, 2012, at 6:24:54
t> . The Greek words for sorcery are: pharmakeia, pharmakeus, and pharmakos
>
> Is big pharm big sorcery? Is that what Bob won't let you say?
>
> It's ridiculous that you can't post anything you want when the Babblers are allowed to play doctor with each other and post really dubious and sometimes dangerous medical advice.ZZDucke,
You wrote the above.
Now the prohibitions to me here by Mr Hsiung are numerous and do include the prohibiton to me that I am prohibited to post what the scriptures that the Jews use prescribe to those that use mind-altering drugs, those that provide them to others or manufacture them and such. But it is much more than that, for the scriptures tell of a great delusion that involves sorcery. If I was allowed to post here about that, I think that lives could be saved. Yet today, people can post statements that could arouse antisemitic feelings and give people (false) feelings of superiority that they state comes from their bible, (does it?) and when they are in a mind-altered state from drugs, they could think to target a Jew for murder.
Lou
Posted by AlexCanada on October 19, 2012, at 22:30:27
In reply to Lou's Little Shoppe-death-o-meter, posted by Lou Pilder on October 13, 2012, at 18:04:40
If it wasn't for meds I would not be here today. You are well known to have a reputation of believing that the human brain is the only organ in the body to not get sick. Which is absolutely irrational.If you want a real statistic then here I am. I am here thanks to Meds! Get lost and stop trying to cause people harm.
> > > > > > > > Friends
> > > > > > > > I can compute the probability of you dying in relation to how many years you have left to live based on the drugs yoiu take and for how long.
> > > > > > > > If you would like me to compute your chances of living as to how many years until your death, post here the following:
> > > > > > > > A. The drugs you take now
> > > > > > > > B. The amount of time you have taken each drug.
> > > > > > > > I will use advanced statistics to compute your chances of living. The death-o-meter is a general prediction so your results may vary. This is not to tell you to stop your drugs, for people kill themselves when in withdrawal. If you want to withdrawal from these drugs, I could help you, but the prohibitions here from Mr Hsiung to me prevent me from posting what is needed by me that IMHHHO could save your life.
> > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > Many of you already know that there are members here that are searching for a way out. A way out of addiction, depression, anxiety fear of death and such. It has been revealed to me how one could do that. It seems to me that members here would want to know that and go to Mr Hsiung to have him change his policy as to the foundation of Judaism as revealed to me so that I could post here what could lead you out of the darkness of depression and adddiction into a marvelous light.
> > > > > > > This thread was innitated by me for those that want to kno how many years they could go by taking their drugs before the drugs kill them as there are statistics that can reveal that that I can tell you.
> > > > > > > Now I have posted here that I do not want to have you stop your drugs because in wihdrawal there are people that kill themselves. And I could help people withdrawal without killing themselves if the posts that could arouse antisemitic feelings that are allowed to stand and I have outstanding requests about, were made not outstanding. Can't you see, that when you are told that others are superior to Jews and that Jewish children can not have forgiveness from and eternal life from the God that they give service and worship to because they do not (redacted by respondent)Jesus whch Mr Hsiung allows here to stand and even allows the poster to write that the bible says such? I think that the member here have a duty to redacted by respondent) and support life. That is why thois thread is about death. I want you to live, not die. And if you do not like my attempt to save lives here then you can (redacted by respondent).
> > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > Many of you may not know that I have been here a long time, even from the start. I have seen many members die here from the drugs. But now there is not much time left for some. You see, I see a great statistical anomoly. This is because IMHO there is an indoctrination that could be goin' on here to lead people to believe particular (false) ideas about Jews, and me as a Jew. And because of that IMHHHO there are going to be many people die here soon from the drugs that they take. It stands out to me so visible that I want to warn you of the hard rain that is going to fall. But as in the days of Noah, we have somerhing differnt here. One can get on the ark and the door will not be shut. For I have a way for you to have a way out of the deluge of death that I see coming here.
> > > > > > Lou
> > > > >
> > > > > Friends,
> > > > > This thread is for people that want to know as to the drugs that they are taking, as to how long they could live until the drugs kill them. If I was to know the drugs taken and the amount of time I could compute statistically a probability for that. I also could use the archive for more definition. Now for those that are not interested, they could go elseware and even start a new thread with their ideas about drugs and death.
> > > > > So let it be for the interested people here. I come to offer help in relation to warning those that may be misled into thinking that these drugs could not kill them. They kill by many ways. One is by inducing a mind-altered state to compel them to want to kill themselves. This could happen in withdrawal and someone posted here that just switching drugs could cause one to kill themselves.
> > > > > Yet today, people here offer advise to others to switch drugs. They also offer advise to take a drug that could induce homocidal thinking and/or suicidal thinking.
> > > > > Here is one case of death here. The FDA now admits that a lot of these drugs can increase suicidal thinking. But it is much more than that. Look at the posts here of all those that want to kill themselves. Look also at the drugs that they list taking. And look at the drugs advised by others for them to take. Is it not plainly visible what is goin' on here? Is the road of druggin' leading to being free from depression and addiction, or are the drugs causing addicton and depression? And telling others to go down that road of drugs, I ask if they know what's waiting 'round the bend.
> > > > > I am prohibited here from posting what the scriptures that the Jews use prescribe to those that tell others to take mind-altering drugs. I am prohibited here from posting what IMHO could save your life. But I say to you, that 42,000 people or so died last year from these drugs and before that and after that, a progression that sums to a great multitude of deaths. I have seen the Great Multitude, for it has been revealed to me and I am prohibited from posting about that here by the prohibitions made to me by Mr. Hsiung. And going forward I think that the advertising and other aspects could make that number higher and going forward higher and higher. For you that are alive now, just remember those millions of deaths that could be counted of those that the drugs killed going forward and those that have already been killed going back 50 years.
> > > > > Hear is one post of those that killed themselves that were members here.
> > > > > Lou
> > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20020308/msgs/3971.html
> > > >
> > > > Friends,
> > > > Here is a video that I would like for interested members here to view.
> > > > Lou
> > > > To see this video,
> > > > A. Pull up Google
> > > > B. Type in:
> > > > [youtube, Psychiatric drugs-search warnings,studies & side effects]
> > >
> > > Friends,
> > > One of the dta bases that I use to compute your chances are of your death from the drugs that you take come from that data base of the FDA. So if you wnt to contest their data, please contact them, not me. I do trust their data and so does the Mayo Clinic.
> > > Here is a link to show your chances of your death from taking xanax.
> > > Lou
> > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/xanax/death
> >
> > Friends,
> > There are many ways that I use to cpmpute probabilities in relation to the chances of death from mind-altering drugs. One site from many that I use is as follows and you could look through the sit and make your own determination as to its credibility :
> > http://www.ehealthme.com/aboutus
> > Then there are the posts by the members that have died here and as to how one could detrmoine if they killed hemselves. Some have emails from their survivors saying that they killed themselves. Then there are the posts by the members that could say that they had suicidal thinking after taking a drug. hen there is the report that he person died from "accidental overdose". The drug did kill thembut there is the question fo how could someone accidental overose when they were taking psychotropic drugs as prescribed at a particular dosage? ANd who is to determine if the death was accidental and how could that determination be made? Could not the person killed themselves deliberatly?
> > Then there is the deaths by heart attack or cardiac arrest.
> > Now in the cases where there was not heart conditions present before the drugs, then that could be evidence that the drug did the killing and there are forensic tests if the family or police and such so want. Then there is liver failure, and other organ failures that can be determined as to if the drug caused the death.
> > Now the statistics from the FDA say what is what. And ehealthme uses those statistics and others.
> > Here is another link;
> > Lou
> > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/risperdal/death
> >
>
> Friends,
> Now here comes some ways that I compute the chances of death. for instance, in the Risperdal stat, which is over 4%, we have the following reasoning depicted by ehealthme. But it is much more than that. Another aspect that I use is if the member is advised to swith their drug . And then does the member have the way to by-pass the psychiatrist/doctor/prescriber and take the advised drug behind the prescriber's back. Now if the psychiatrist/prescriber is doing what is right in relation to giving drugs, then could not one telling the prescriber that they want another drug lead the prescriber to think that they are a bozo for not issueing the drug in the first place? Can you not see that there is a danger here by people advising others to take a drug that is not prescribed to the other? And could not death result if the person skips their doctor's visit to get a prescription for the drug? And could not a case be made to arrest the advisor if the other member dies from the drug advised to take? Maybe that person is allergic to the advised drug and dies from one pill.
> Here is another link
> Lou
> http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/paxil/death
Posted by Lou Pilder on October 20, 2012, at 13:16:38
In reply to Meds saved my life, posted by AlexCanada on October 19, 2012, at 22:30:27
>
> If it wasn't for meds I would not be here today. You are well known to have a reputation of believing that the human brain is the only organ in the body to not get sick. Which is absolutely irrational.
>
> If you want a real statistic then here I am. I am here thanks to Meds! Get lost and stop trying to cause people harm.
>
>
>
>
> > > > > > > > > Friends
> > > > > > > > > I can compute the probability of you dying in relation to how many years you have left to live based on the drugs yoiu take and for how long.
> > > > > > > > > If you would like me to compute your chances of living as to how many years until your death, post here the following:
> > > > > > > > > A. The drugs you take now
> > > > > > > > > B. The amount of time you have taken each drug.
> > > > > > > > > I will use advanced statistics to compute your chances of living. The death-o-meter is a general prediction so your results may vary. This is not to tell you to stop your drugs, for people kill themselves when in withdrawal. If you want to withdrawal from these drugs, I could help you, but the prohibitions here from Mr Hsiung to me prevent me from posting what is needed by me that IMHHHO could save your life.
> > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > Many of you already know that there are members here that are searching for a way out. A way out of addiction, depression, anxiety fear of death and such. It has been revealed to me how one could do that. It seems to me that members here would want to know that and go to Mr Hsiung to have him change his policy as to the foundation of Judaism as revealed to me so that I could post here what could lead you out of the darkness of depression and adddiction into a marvelous light.
> > > > > > > > This thread was innitated by me for those that want to kno how many years they could go by taking their drugs before the drugs kill them as there are statistics that can reveal that that I can tell you.
> > > > > > > > Now I have posted here that I do not want to have you stop your drugs because in wihdrawal there are people that kill themselves. And I could help people withdrawal without killing themselves if the posts that could arouse antisemitic feelings that are allowed to stand and I have outstanding requests about, were made not outstanding. Can't you see, that when you are told that others are superior to Jews and that Jewish children can not have forgiveness from and eternal life from the God that they give service and worship to because they do not (redacted by respondent)Jesus whch Mr Hsiung allows here to stand and even allows the poster to write that the bible says such? I think that the member here have a duty to redacted by respondent) and support life. That is why thois thread is about death. I want you to live, not die. And if you do not like my attempt to save lives here then you can (redacted by respondent).
> > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > Many of you may not know that I have been here a long time, even from the start. I have seen many members die here from the drugs. But now there is not much time left for some. You see, I see a great statistical anomoly. This is because IMHO there is an indoctrination that could be goin' on here to lead people to believe particular (false) ideas about Jews, and me as a Jew. And because of that IMHHHO there are going to be many people die here soon from the drugs that they take. It stands out to me so visible that I want to warn you of the hard rain that is going to fall. But as in the days of Noah, we have somerhing differnt here. One can get on the ark and the door will not be shut. For I have a way for you to have a way out of the deluge of death that I see coming here.
> > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > This thread is for people that want to know as to the drugs that they are taking, as to how long they could live until the drugs kill them. If I was to know the drugs taken and the amount of time I could compute statistically a probability for that. I also could use the archive for more definition. Now for those that are not interested, they could go elseware and even start a new thread with their ideas about drugs and death.
> > > > > > So let it be for the interested people here. I come to offer help in relation to warning those that may be misled into thinking that these drugs could not kill them. They kill by many ways. One is by inducing a mind-altered state to compel them to want to kill themselves. This could happen in withdrawal and someone posted here that just switching drugs could cause one to kill themselves.
> > > > > > Yet today, people here offer advise to others to switch drugs. They also offer advise to take a drug that could induce homocidal thinking and/or suicidal thinking.
> > > > > > Here is one case of death here. The FDA now admits that a lot of these drugs can increase suicidal thinking. But it is much more than that. Look at the posts here of all those that want to kill themselves. Look also at the drugs that they list taking. And look at the drugs advised by others for them to take. Is it not plainly visible what is goin' on here? Is the road of druggin' leading to being free from depression and addiction, or are the drugs causing addicton and depression? And telling others to go down that road of drugs, I ask if they know what's waiting 'round the bend.
> > > > > > I am prohibited here from posting what the scriptures that the Jews use prescribe to those that tell others to take mind-altering drugs. I am prohibited here from posting what IMHO could save your life. But I say to you, that 42,000 people or so died last year from these drugs and before that and after that, a progression that sums to a great multitude of deaths. I have seen the Great Multitude, for it has been revealed to me and I am prohibited from posting about that here by the prohibitions made to me by Mr. Hsiung. And going forward I think that the advertising and other aspects could make that number higher and going forward higher and higher. For you that are alive now, just remember those millions of deaths that could be counted of those that the drugs killed going forward and those that have already been killed going back 50 years.
> > > > > > Hear is one post of those that killed themselves that were members here.
> > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20020308/msgs/3971.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Friends,
> > > > > Here is a video that I would like for interested members here to view.
> > > > > Lou
> > > > > To see this video,
> > > > > A. Pull up Google
> > > > > B. Type in:
> > > > > [youtube, Psychiatric drugs-search warnings,studies & side effects]
> > > >
> > > > Friends,
> > > > One of the dta bases that I use to compute your chances are of your death from the drugs that you take come from that data base of the FDA. So if you wnt to contest their data, please contact them, not me. I do trust their data and so does the Mayo Clinic.
> > > > Here is a link to show your chances of your death from taking xanax.
> > > > Lou
> > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/xanax/death
> > >
> > > Friends,
> > > There are many ways that I use to cpmpute probabilities in relation to the chances of death from mind-altering drugs. One site from many that I use is as follows and you could look through the sit and make your own determination as to its credibility :
> > > http://www.ehealthme.com/aboutus
> > > Then there are the posts by the members that have died here and as to how one could detrmoine if they killed hemselves. Some have emails from their survivors saying that they killed themselves. Then there are the posts by the members that could say that they had suicidal thinking after taking a drug. hen there is the report that he person died from "accidental overdose". The drug did kill thembut there is the question fo how could someone accidental overose when they were taking psychotropic drugs as prescribed at a particular dosage? ANd who is to determine if the death was accidental and how could that determination be made? Could not the person killed themselves deliberatly?
> > > Then there is the deaths by heart attack or cardiac arrest.
> > > Now in the cases where there was not heart conditions present before the drugs, then that could be evidence that the drug did the killing and there are forensic tests if the family or police and such so want. Then there is liver failure, and other organ failures that can be determined as to if the drug caused the death.
> > > Now the statistics from the FDA say what is what. And ehealthme uses those statistics and others.
> > > Here is another link;
> > > Lou
> > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/risperdal/death
> > >
> >
> > Friends,
> > Now here comes some ways that I compute the chances of death. for instance, in the Risperdal stat, which is over 4%, we have the following reasoning depicted by ehealthme. But it is much more than that. Another aspect that I use is if the member is advised to swith their drug . And then does the member have the way to by-pass the psychiatrist/doctor/prescriber and take the advised drug behind the prescriber's back. Now if the psychiatrist/prescriber is doing what is right in relation to giving drugs, then could not one telling the prescriber that they want another drug lead the prescriber to think that they are a bozo for not issueing the drug in the first place? Can you not see that there is a danger here by people advising others to take a drug that is not prescribed to the other? And could not death result if the person skips their doctor's visit to get a prescription for the drug? And could not a case be made to arrest the advisor if the other member dies from the drug advised to take? Maybe that person is allergic to the advised drug and dies from one pill.
> > Here is another link
> > Lou
> > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/paxil/death
>
> Friends,
What is written by the poster here could lead you to think that mind-altering chemicals called psychiatric medicines, could save your life or your child's life and such and you will use that line of thinking to be indoctrinated to drug your child or yourself or such.
But I say to you, that each month around 3,600 people die from psycihiatric drugs in one way or another. And that there is evidence that psychiatric drugs {increase} suicidal thoughts and violence. And could someone really claim that because they are not dead that taking mind-altering drugs that could give horrific life-ruining conditions or addiction or death be saving their life?
Friends, I know what causes people to think about killing themselves. And there are prohibitions to me here by Mr Hsiung that prevent me from posting that here. Now the poster here can post that claim that psychotropic drugs have kept him/her alive. Really? Could the fact that one is alive prove that the drugs that they take keep them from killig themselves, if that is what is meant, when thousands of people each year kill themselves and others while on these drugs? Where is the rationallity seen in that type of claim?
I would like for parents thinking to drug their child or not to view the following video. I would like people trying to make a more informed, educated decision as to start taking psychiatric drugs to view this video. I would like psychiarists that are questoning the effects of the drugs that they prescribe to view this video. I would like for those that have had loved ones die while they were taking thses drug to view this video. I would like for those that have been taking thses drugs that have had some of their humanity taken away by these drugs to view this video. I would like for those that think that giving someone a drug that could kill them or addict them or induce a life-ruining condition in them to constitute a crims, a crime against humanity, to view this video.
And after that if you think that taking a psychotropic drug will prevent you from killing yourself, or cure some type of illness that woud result in death by some other means other than suicide, I invite you to post here with your rationale, if there is any, and then I will post more to you and give other readers their right to know the facts, even with the prohibitions to me here by Mr Hsiung so that you could live and not be a victim of psychiatric drugging that could lead to addiction, life-ruining conditions or death.
To see this video:
A. Pull up Google
B. Type in:
[youtube, Psychiatric Drugs-Increased Suicides & Violent Acts]
posted on Dec 30 2011....11 min long
Posted by Lou Pilder on October 21, 2012, at 8:21:07
In reply to Why I will never buy what Lou is selling, posted by Phil on October 18, 2012, at 13:55:55
> I don't like being ignored then go to the Admin and Lou posted that I'm anti-semitic when what I said was positive. Jews are the most charitable people in the world. My best friend is Jewish, I worked for a Jewish owned company for 7 years. There wouldn't be comedy without Jews. I've dated Jewish women.
> He won't answer me here on this subject but takes something I didn't know he had a problem with and goes straight Admin.
>
> from 2002~~~~~~~
> In reply to not anti-religion..., posted by krazy kat on May 26, 2002, at 11:28:03
>
> Friends,
> I am not anti-medicine. I believe in medicine. I am not a member of the groups that deny their children to have medicine or blood transfusions to save their life. I believe that death is an enemy. And that we should fight the enemy.
> ((so ten years later I still believe in meds. Lou has evidently gone the other way and my agenda now should be his?))
> ________________________________________
>
> Another post: I'm not affiliated with any religion
> ________________________________________
>
> Another post, I'm Morman.
> Bro you can't even spell Mormon.
> _______________________________________
>
> Google Nazi White horse and read the posts from 2002. Or don't, I don't care.
> ________________________________________
>
> I think that Lou means well and I'll just leave it at that. I don't think he's a bad person. I just don't understand what he talks about.
> I'm writing 3rd person because well just because. I'll chill I promise.
> And I'll never post Lou's name again. I'm not trying to offend anyone including Lou and if I have I'm sorry.Phil,
I am unsure as to what you are wanting to mean here. If you could post answers to the following, then I could have the opportunity to respond acordingly.
A. Could you post the URL of where you say that I posted that you were antisemitic?
B. If not, and there is not a post like that, what is your intention to lead others to believe about me if there is no such post?
C. In that you posted about a previous post by me concerning that I believe in medicines, are you aware that I have a different conception of what a medicine is than that of psychiatry that promotes mind-altering chemicals as medicines?
D. In you post here about Mormons, could you post the URL if there is one that someone stated that they are a Mormon? I do not know if I am your subject person or not and I am not a member of the LDS. If there is not one, what is what you posted wanting to show?
E. In that you posted that you would not post my name again, what has changed your mind since you are talking about me now on the administration board here?
F. Are you aware that just last year alone, 42,000 people died by one means or another from psychotropic drugs and that many have died here from those drugs? If so, or if not so, is there an objection by you here to me posting facts about death and drugs that I think if there were not the prohibitions made to me here by Mr Hsiung that lives could be saved by what I could post if there was not the repression to my speech imposed upon me here by Mr Hsiung?
Lou
Posted by brynb on October 21, 2012, at 9:56:37
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-Saving lives vs being civil » schleprock, posted by sleepygirl2 on October 18, 2012, at 18:36:30
> That was funny :-)
>it was...thank goodness for comic relief!
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