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Posted by morganator on August 15, 2009, at 18:21:01
Anyone want to chyme in on their recent experiences with Agomelatine?
I would also like to know if anyone is taking Agomelatine with another antidepressant, especially an SSRI like Zoloft.
Posted by ceres on August 17, 2009, at 3:14:29
In reply to Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by morganator on August 15, 2009, at 18:21:01
I wanted to try Agomelatine, hoping I might be able to sleep thru the night, -- but couldn't figure out how to get it in the States. I think it doesn't finish testing/approval here 'till 2012?
My doctor hadn't heard of it. I guess there's another drug that interacts w/ melatonin, (Rhy...?)
Have you tried it?
Posted by morganator on August 17, 2009, at 18:23:57
In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by ceres on August 17, 2009, at 3:14:29
Nope, that's why I am asking. I really want to try it.
Posted by Sigismund on August 17, 2009, at 23:39:18
In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by ceres on August 17, 2009, at 3:14:29
It's good for me.
Although it feels much different to Parnate, it is similar in that both drugs do not feel like pharmacological insults and both feel like euphoriants.
Also, of course, improves sleep.
Never tried SSRIs.
Posted by morganator on August 18, 2009, at 0:58:34
In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Sigismund on August 17, 2009, at 23:39:18
Are you only on Agomelatine? How many times do you dose it?
Why did you stop Parnate?
Sorry for all the questions I'm just very interested in both Parnate and Agomelatine, not to take together but individually.
Posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 18, 2009, at 7:42:32
In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by morganator on August 18, 2009, at 0:58:34
> Are you only on Agomelatine? How many times do you dose it?
>
> Why did you stop Parnate?
>
> Sorry for all the questions I'm just very interested in both Parnate and Agomelatine, not to take together but individually.Does Agomelatine help anhedonia?
Posted by Sigismund on August 18, 2009, at 17:45:27
In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by morganator on August 18, 2009, at 0:58:34
> Are you only on Agomelatine?
That and afobazol, Hydergine and Valium
>How many times do you dose it?Before bed
>Why did you stop Parnate?Insomnia, and higher doses made me feel weird.
Posted by Sigismund on August 18, 2009, at 17:50:56
In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 18, 2009, at 7:42:32
>Does Agomelatine help anhedonia?
I dunno.
There are drugs that can create a feeling of pleasure (all of them of course illegal), though they do not actually help with anhedonia once they are gone.
It might.
Afobazol is good, as good for that as agomelatine.
Available OTC in Russia.
Posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 19, 2009, at 2:57:54
In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences » Alexanderfromdenmark, posted by Sigismund on August 18, 2009, at 17:50:56
> >Does Agomelatine help anhedonia?
>
> I dunno.
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> There are drugs that can create a feeling of pleasure (all of them of course illegal), though they do not actually help with anhedonia once they are gone.
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> It might.
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> Afobazol is good, as good for that as agomelatine.
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> Available OTC in Russia.Yes, I don't live in Russia though...
Posted by Sigismund on August 19, 2009, at 17:50:35
In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 19, 2009, at 2:57:54
>Yes, I don't live in Russia though.
You live a lot closer to it than I do.
Posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 20, 2009, at 10:23:36
In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Sigismund on August 19, 2009, at 17:50:35
> >Yes, I don't live in Russia though.
>
> You live a lot closer to it than I do.Yes, maybe I'll go on a hike to Moscow tomorrow. The sun should be out. Gotta watch out for the bears though.
Posted by Sigismund on August 20, 2009, at 16:32:30
In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 20, 2009, at 10:23:36
I get it from Poland, actually. You could just stop there.
Posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 20, 2009, at 16:59:10
In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Sigismund on August 20, 2009, at 16:32:30
Oh god no, Poland is full of pale famished jews.. I rather wrestle a bear with my shoes tied together.
Posted by Sigismund on August 20, 2009, at 21:03:01
In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 20, 2009, at 16:59:10
>Poland is full of pale famished jews.
Not any more. Anyway, I'd like to see Krakow and the Carpathians.
Posted by Bob12 on August 23, 2009, at 9:58:44
In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 20, 2009, at 16:59:10
> Oh god no, Poland is full of pale famished jews.. I rather wrestle a bear with my shoes tied together.
Kindly do not post offensive, uneducated, and anti-semetic posts here.
Posted by blynth on August 24, 2009, at 3:51:34
In reply to Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by morganator on August 15, 2009, at 18:21:01
Posted by blynth on August 24, 2009, at 3:53:19
In reply to Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by morganator on August 15, 2009, at 18:21:01
I combined 12.5 of agomelatine with 75 of venlafaxine (SNRI). Within 2 days I was hypomanic, and I have never had any hypomania ever before with any drug or combination. I had not been diagnosed bipolar. I have now gone off venlafaxine and am starting agomelatine on its own with a mood stabiliser. Just thought you should be aware of that before combining...
Posted by SLS on August 24, 2009, at 5:30:23
In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences » morganator, posted by blynth on August 24, 2009, at 3:53:19
> I combined 12.5 of agomelatine with 75 of venlafaxine (SNRI). Within 2 days I was hypomanic, and I have never had any hypomania ever before with any drug or combination. I had not been diagnosed bipolar. I have now gone off venlafaxine and am starting agomelatine on its own with a mood stabiliser. Just thought you should be aware of that before combining...
Thanks for the idea!!!
Anything that is capable of making me manic is a blessing. I have been so areactive to previous treatments, that my doctors would be happy if I were to become manic because it is very easily controlled in me with Depakote. So, the thinking is that such a strategy would leave me euthymic.
- Scott
Posted by SLS on August 24, 2009, at 5:37:51
In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 20, 2009, at 16:59:10
> Oh god no, Poland is full of pale famished jews.. I rather wrestle a bear with my shoes tied together.
After reading this, I might be disinclined to interact with you. My grandparents were Polish, pale, famished Jews.
Is there anything you would like to add to your comments?
Would you prefer that I not offer you feedback in the future? I am still willing.
- Scott
Posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 24, 2009, at 7:17:33
In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences » Alexanderfromdenmark, posted by SLS on August 24, 2009, at 5:37:51
> > Oh god no, Poland is full of pale famished jews.. I rather wrestle a bear with my shoes tied together.
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> After reading this, I might be disinclined to interact with you. My grandparents were Polish, pale, famished Jews.
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> Is there anything you would like to add to your comments?
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> Would you prefer that I not offer you feedback in the future? I am still willing.
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> - ScottOh god it really is difficult to crack a joke on the internet without offending someone.
Posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 24, 2009, at 7:19:08
In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Sigismund on August 20, 2009, at 21:03:01
> >Poland is full of pale famished jews.
>
> Not any more. Anyway, I'd like to see Krakow and the Carpathians.I thought the Carpathians were extinct.
Maybe i'm thinking about something else. I thought they were like the knights templar or something.
Posted by SLS on August 24, 2009, at 7:31:59
In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 24, 2009, at 7:17:33
> > > Oh god no, Poland is full of pale famished jews.. I rather wrestle a bear with my shoes tied together.
> > After reading this, I might be disinclined to interact with you. My grandparents were Polish, pale, famished Jews.
> >
> > Is there anything you would like to add to your comments?
> >
> > Would you prefer that I not offer you feedback in the future? I am still willing.> Oh god it really is difficult to crack a joke on the internet without offending someone.
Sorry, but I don't buy it.
- Scott
Posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 24, 2009, at 11:09:41
In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences » Alexanderfromdenmark, posted by SLS on August 24, 2009, at 7:31:59
> > > > Oh god no, Poland is full of pale famished jews.. I rather wrestle a bear with my shoes tied together.
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> > > After reading this, I might be disinclined to interact with you. My grandparents were Polish, pale, famished Jews.
> > >
> > > Is there anything you would like to add to your comments?
> > >
> > > Would you prefer that I not offer you feedback in the future? I am still willing.
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> > Oh god it really is difficult to crack a joke on the internet without offending someone.
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> Sorry, but I don't buy it.
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> - ScottYou think I'm a jew hater?
Posted by clipper40 on August 24, 2009, at 15:29:22
In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 24, 2009, at 11:09:41
It sure sounded like it to me. You may have intended it to be a joke, but some things just aren't funny.
(BTW, my grandparents were Polish Jews who got out of Poland just in time.)
Posted by SLS on August 24, 2009, at 15:42:13
In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 24, 2009, at 11:09:41
> > > > > Oh god no, Poland is full of pale famished jews.. I rather wrestle a bear with my shoes tied together.
> > > > After reading this, I might be disinclined to interact with you. My grandparents were Polish, pale, famished Jews.
> > > >
> > > > Is there anything you would like to add to your comments?
> > > >
> > > > Would you prefer that I not offer you feedback in the future? I am still willing.
> > > Oh god it really is difficult to crack a joke on the internet without offending someone.
> > Sorry, but I don't buy it.
> You think I'm a jew hater?
I cannot know what is in your mind or in your heart.I doubt it would be productive for us to discuss this any more.
- Scott
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