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Posted by haddsl on May 26, 2005, at 12:02:30
In reply to JUST STARTED TAKING EFFEXOR XR, posted by TANYA on January 14, 2000, at 10:48:44
> Hi, I have just started taking effexor xr and I have only been on it for 3 days. I had been suffering from mild depression and sleeplessness. My dr. has also given me tryodozone for sleeping at night. it really helps and I wake up feeling refreshed after sleep. I don't have much of an appetite which to me feels good because I need to loose some weight. The only concern that I have is that I get severely tired during the day when taking the effexor xr the dr. said he wants me to take it during the day so that it will give me energy, but i haven't experienced that yet. I know it's only been 3 days, but am worried that I don't want to feel this exhausted during the day while taking it. Did anyone else experience this and if so how long before it went away?
> thanks,
> tanya
Hi I was on Cymbalta and it was making me super wired at night and tired all through the day. I was thinking that with it taking that long to kick in, take it at night. Then you might be able to sleep at night and be wired during the day. I am supposed to start Effexor XR 75MG today but I wanted to read about it first. Has anyone noticed how long it takes for it to wire you after taking it?
Posted by haddsl on May 26, 2005, at 16:27:22
In reply to I'm a newie to Effexor XR, posted by CKT on April 27, 2000, at 14:12:52
> As stated, I'm a newie with Effexor XR I just started yesterday on the starter kit and i am feeling a little anxious I feel like i'm on some type of speed. Is this normal? It kind of has me worried. I have tried Zoloft and Elevil and both have made me feel "racy" My doctor put me on Effexor because i am "Depressed" i don't know why and i'm tired all the time. I can't keep my eyes open and this seems to not let me sleep eventhough i keep yawning. I guess i really don't know what to expect and i'm afraid to become a "pill-popper" can anyone help me understand better please?
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>I am new also, and I haven't actually started taking my medicine yet, as i wanted to read about it first. I was lucky enough to stumble on this discussion thread, which has helped me more than anything else. I was on Cymbalta before and that is how I felt. Like I was on speed, my skin and body would get hot, I was sweating, really racey, talking a mile a minute. I was tired all day at work and then wide awake when I would get home. I was thinking about switching to taking my pills at night, but I wasn't sure how the Effexor XR would be different from the cymbalta.
Posted by jessek82 on May 26, 2005, at 23:02:10
In reply to Re: I'm a newie to Effexor XR, posted by haddsl on May 26, 2005, at 16:27:22
Couldnt' handle taking the effexor. Now my doc wants to try something else for my anxiety. Never really been consistantly medicated before
(only 23yo). What works? SSRI or benzo? Thanks for help.
Posted by Dr. Bob on May 27, 2005, at 8:02:55
In reply to Going off Effexor- best way, posted by jubilee on May 22, 2005, at 13:46:25
> I suggest going off when you have the most effexor possible and go real slow...
Sorry if it's confusing here, but I'd like to redirect follow-ups regarding going off Effexor to Psycho-Babble Withdrawal. Here's a link:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/wdrawl/20050214/msgs/457503.html
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Mr.Scott on May 27, 2005, at 10:33:50
In reply to Moving on, what else works?, posted by jessek82 on May 26, 2005, at 23:02:10
My personal advice is to see what you can get from ssri's before moving to the benzos.
Scott
Posted by flmj79 on May 30, 2005, at 2:59:50
In reply to Re: 4 Weeks off Effexor - joint pain » winddancer, posted by Emmi on May 22, 2005, at 9:53:34
I have Tried twice in the last 3 years to get off effexor XR 75 Mg. I am finally not taking it. Weened down to 37.5mg. But its been 9 days of PURE HELL. Well some days are just great like I am all amped up and ready to go. Other days my body hurts and I am on my death bed. My head feels all cloudy and I here or feel like swoosh like 2-4 times when I am walking around doing something and turning my neck. I am have had ringing in my ears. I can barely pick up my daughter is 2. I am only 26 I feel like I am 60 on days. I sometimes want to take effexor but It wasnt helping me any I was stuck in the Rut, No feelings I Like didnt feel love for anyone. Now all I feel is Aches and Pains, Massive DIZZINESS!!!! Faintish, wierd sensations in my head. HOW MUCH LONGER DOES THIS LAST?????? {PLEASE HELP} FAYE
Posted by Chron on May 30, 2005, at 10:46:36
In reply to Anyone had success on Effexor XR? , posted by jp on October 24, 1999, at 14:59:14
Hey guys anyone know of any adverse side effects of effexor and pot smoking? Haven't started meds yet but I'm just trying to make an informed decision, don't want to have to trade one drug for another!
Posted by Chron on May 30, 2005, at 11:28:55
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR?, posted by Chron on May 30, 2005, at 10:46:36
Hey guys anyone know of any adverse side effects of effexor and pot smoking? Haven't started meds yet but I'm just trying to make an informed decision, don't want to have to trade one drug for another!
Posted by Chron on May 30, 2005, at 11:34:20
In reply to POT SMOKING AND EFFEXOR, posted by Chron on May 30, 2005, at 11:28:55
Anyone taking sleep meds w/effexor? Temazepam has worked so well for the sleeplessness, I'm afraid to mix with Effexor
Posted by vy on May 30, 2005, at 13:26:43
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR?, posted by Kev on January 4, 2000, at 21:32:43
I took paxil, zoloft and wellbutrin (all of those I had problems with). My new doctor just started me on Effexor XR 4 days ago. I am still only taking the 35 then I up the dosage in 2 days.
He told me to take my meds in the morning and walk 30 min a day to help,It help me sleep (since I suffer from insomnia)so I take it at night..
I feel great but I now have racing, obsessive thoughts while I am trying to sleep. Morphing coversations in my head that I never have had before. I also take Ativan to calm my anxiety if needed and Resterol to put me to sleep. Effexor seems to help my anxiety and depression so I was wondering if anyone has had the problems of going to bed with crazy awake dreams, but I don't have nightmares. Go figure..
I hope it passes since I feel good overall.
Any anwers would be great!
Posted by vy on May 30, 2005, at 16:56:37
In reply to Insomnia and depression, posted by Richie on February 25, 2001, at 2:46:53
> I have had insomnia for years which I used to solve by drinking and smoking marijuana, both of which I have stopped for over two months and now I can not sleep. I was given scrips for Sonata and then Ambien but find I need more than one to get to sleep. The doc started to prescribe anti depressants: Wellbutrin, Celexa and now Effexor 37.5mg), to help with anxiety and sleeplessness, but I have found they just keep me awake. I started to take the Effexor yesterday, and am not sure if it will help my insomnia. He told me to stop taking the Celexa with the Effexor, and the Wellbutrin definitely does not help. He doesn't want to prescribe Trazadone or Remeron because they are narcotics, but I have tried to go off everything and nothing helps to get me to sleep. Melatonin, Valerian, warm milk, turkey, etc. I will spend twelve hours in bed and sleep less than two hours. Any ideas on what I can ask the doc to prescribe to help me sleep? Thanks for any input.
I would ask for Resterol (generic Tamazipam). It is the only thing that works for me.
Posted by Chron on May 30, 2005, at 17:16:34
In reply to Re: Insomnia and depression, posted by vy on May 30, 2005, at 16:56:37
> > I have had insomnia for years which I used to solve by drinking and smoking marijuana, both of which I have stopped for over two months and now I can not sleep. I was given scrips for Sonata and then Ambien but find I need more than one to get to sleep. The doc started to prescribe anti depressants: Wellbutrin, Celexa and now Effexor 37.5mg), to help with anxiety and sleeplessness, but I have found they just keep me awake. I started to take the Effexor yesterday, and am not sure if it will help my insomnia. He told me to stop taking the Celexa with the Effexor, and the Wellbutrin definitely does not help. He doesn't want to prescribe Trazadone or Remeron because they are narcotics, but I have tried to go off everything and nothing helps to get me to sleep. Melatonin, Valerian, warm milk, turkey, etc. I will spend twelve hours in bed and sleep less than two hours. Any ideas on what I can ask the doc to prescribe to help me sleep? Thanks for any input.
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> I would ask for Resterol (generic Tamazipam). It is the only thing that works for me.
>Ha ha my prob exactly which is why I asked about the temazepam and pot, i need one or the other or both to sleep, even when I am exhausted!
Posted by Phillipa on May 30, 2005, at 17:20:59
In reply to Re: Insomnia and depression, posted by Chron on May 30, 2005, at 17:16:34
Trazadone and Remeron aren't narcotics! They're both antidepressants! Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by vy on May 30, 2005, at 23:50:54
In reply to Re: Insomnia and depression, posted by Chron on May 30, 2005, at 17:16:34
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> Ha ha my prob exactly which is why I asked about the temazepam and pot, i need one or the other or both to sleep, even when I am exhausted!
>I never got into pot. Not for me and when I was a teenager it made me hyper.. like I was on acid. I stick to Ativan and Resterol. Those 2 work like ace and I am not groggy in the morning.
Posted by Chron on May 31, 2005, at 10:00:08
In reply to Re: Insomnia and depression, posted by vy on May 30, 2005, at 23:50:54
Yes but those are chemical pharmeceuticals, pot is just pot man. you are medicating medication, isn't anyone in here a little concerned about having to take medication for medcation? One pill has adverse side effects so you take another one to balance out the effect of that one and then another one to sleep or whatever? is noone concerned about becoming a med head and totally dependant on mass factory-produced chemicals to alter your brain which you and you alone have control over? is pill popping and being spoon fed prespription medication by a physician who is PAID to promote and market name brand government sanctioned pharmaceuticals really the solution? technically, isn't that just another form of mind control? ive been reading this board for the last two days and you folks talk about meds the was elvis talked about cadillacs....scary.
Posted by tatarka on May 31, 2005, at 11:09:50
In reply to Re: Insomnia and depression » vy, posted by Chron on May 31, 2005, at 10:00:08
You are absolutly right, Chron! That's why I started gradually going off Effexor. I asked my doc to prescribe me half-dose, so I dont go cold turkey (I tried though - dont recomend anybody! it's not safe). And I hate the fact that I'm so addicted now to these things - Effexor and Wellbutrin, but I hope I'll be able to quit.
Posted by tatarka on May 31, 2005, at 11:11:43
In reply to Re: Insomnia and depression » Chron, posted by tatarka on May 31, 2005, at 11:09:50
ATTENTION TO EVERYBODY: here is the link that helped me to solve some of my problems better than my docs: http://mentalhelp.net/psyhelp/
Start from what relates to your problems/interests (I started from adsertiveness), and then you can start over from the beginning.
Posted by jubilee on May 31, 2005, at 11:14:12
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR?, posted by Chron on May 30, 2005, at 10:46:36
> Hey guys anyone know of any adverse side effects of effexor and pot smoking? Haven't started meds yet but I'm just trying to make an informed decision, don't want to have to trade one drug for another!
I hope you will here me as one that took effexor for 4 years , and now I am half blind and have a friend who is dying of irriversable liver dammage from it . it over works the liver and is highly poisionous . Withdrawals are insane and it took me 5 months to come down off it as its worse than herion . Please dont put it in your body as I would rather see you just smoke pot or take prozak which has helped me and is older and proven. Thety have symbrax now which is prozac w/ zyprexa for anxioty. God Bless . Jubilee
Ps , I just stop by here once in a awhile as I like to keep the truth up. again , Jubilee.
Posted by jubilee on May 31, 2005, at 11:14:51
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR?, posted by Chron on May 30, 2005, at 10:46:36
> Hey guys anyone know of any adverse side effects of effexor and pot smoking? Haven't started meds yet but I'm just trying to make an informed decision, don't want to have to trade one drug for another!
I hope you will here me as one that took effexor for 4 years , and now I am half blind and have a friend who is dying of irriversable liver dammage from it . it over works the liver and is highly poisionous . Withdrawals are insane and it took me 5 months to come down off it as its worse than herion . Please dont put it in your body as I would rather see you just smoke pot or take prozak which has helped me and is older and proven. Thety have symbrax now which is prozac w/ zyprexa for anxioty. God Bless . Jubilee
Ps , I just stop by here once in a awhile as I like to keep the truth up. again , Jubilee.
Posted by Chron on May 31, 2005, at 12:42:50
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR?listen!, posted by jubilee on May 31, 2005, at 11:14:51
> > Hey guys anyone know of any adverse side effects of effexor and pot smoking? Haven't started meds yet but I'm just trying to make an informed decision, don't want to have to trade one drug for another!
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> I hope you will here me as one that took effexor for 4 years , and now I am half blind and have a friend who is dying of irriversable liver dammage from it . it over works the liver and is highly poisionous . Withdrawals are insane and it took me 5 months to come down off it as its worse than herion . Please dont put it in your body as I would rather see you just smoke pot or take prozak which has helped me and is older and proven. Thety have symbrax now which is prozac w/ zyprexa for anxioty. God Bless . Jubilee
> Ps , I just stop by here once in a awhile as I like to keep the truth up. again , Jubilee.
>Thaks so much for the insight!
Posted by john berk on June 1, 2005, at 7:53:43
In reply to Re: Insomnia and depression » Chron, posted by tatarka on May 31, 2005, at 11:09:50
HI! CHRON MAKES A VALID POINT ABOUT EXCXHANGING ONE MEDICATION FOR ANOTHER, BUT AS A RECOVERING ALCOHOLIC, AND A NOW VERY HEALTH ORIENTED PERSON, I STILL BELEIVE THAT TAKING A PRESCRIBED MED FOR SLEEP IS A GOOD OPTION. ALMOST ALL THE PEOPLE OF I HAVE MET IN RECOVERY HAVE MAJOR SLEEP ISSUES, AND I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT FRUSTRATION WITH INSOMNIA CAN IN THE LONG RUN LEAD TO A RELAPSE, IF NOT FULL-BLOWN DEPRESSION. TRAZADONE AT A LOW DOSE, [50 MGS.] IS A GREAT HELP WITH SLEEP, AS IS 10 MGS. OF AMBIEN. ALSO EXCERSISE AND SUNLIGHT IN THE MORNING RESET YOUR SLEEP CYCLES AND RAISE MELATONIN. POT,[THC] IS A UNRELIABLE, [MORE DANGEROUS THAN ONCE SUPPOSED] "DRUG", IT HAS WORSENED MY BROTHERS OCD, AND I WOULD MUCH RATHER TAKE A PRESCRITION MED THAN SOME OFF THE STREET, UNPREDICTABLE MOOD ALTERING SUBSTANCE!! THAT'S JUST MY HUMBLE OPINION...JOHN BERK
Posted by Dr. Bob on June 1, 2005, at 21:32:53
In reply to Re: Insomnia and depression » vy, posted by Chron on May 31, 2005, at 10:00:08
> you folks talk about meds the was elvis talked about cadillacs....scary.
Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
Follow-ups regarding these issues should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration. They, as well as replies to the above post, should of course themselves be civil.
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on June 1, 2005, at 21:33:28
In reply to Psychological self-help, posted by tatarka on May 31, 2005, at 11:11:43
> ATTENTION TO EVERYBODY: here is the link that helped me to solve some of my problems better than my docs: http://mentalhelp.net/psyhelp/
Sorry to interrupt, but I'd like to redirect follow-ups regarding psychological self-help to Psycho-Babble Psychology. Here's a link:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/psycho/20050528/msgs/506569.html
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by gardenergirl on June 1, 2005, at 22:09:22
In reply to Re: Insomnia and depression » vy, posted by Chron on May 31, 2005, at 10:00:08
> you are medicating medication, isn't anyone in here a little concerned about having to take medication for medcation? One pill has adverse side effects so you take another one to balance out the effect of that one and then another one to sleep or whatever?
People who have Parkinson's disease must take medication to replace the dopamine that is depleted in their brains. Sometimes this medication can cause psychotic symptoms due to too much dopamine. Thus, an antipsychotic is often intiated to manage those symptoms.
If I am following your statement correctly, then you might say that the medicine that people with Parkinson's disease require to slow the progression of their disease and to be able to even move should not be taken if it causes the person to require another medication to manage the side effect of psychosis?
gg
Posted by redjr on June 1, 2005, at 22:18:09
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR? » Kev, posted by vy on May 30, 2005, at 13:26:43
Kev,
Don't feel alone with the obssesive thoughts at night! Effexor wasn't the cause for me. I've had them for years, but lately my insomnia has gotten progressively worse - to the point of it being maddening!
My pdoc changed me over to Remeron last week, but I'm not sure if it's much better. :( It's supposed to help with sleep so I take it before bed. I think the cure is worse than the symptoms - now I feel groggy, kinda like a zombie up until the late afternoon(I guess the Remeron is wearing off).
As many know on this forum, insomnia can be in and of itself a major cause of depression - or at a minimum put our bodies at risk of behaving in a depressed state! It's soooooo frustrating. Just can't turn my mind off at night.
Take care. We're all here to help....
redjr...
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