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Posted by Jeroen on May 20, 2005, at 14:33:54
In reply to Re: TO ED UK, posted by Jeroen on May 20, 2005, at 14:32:09
Seroquel i took short felt like miracle for me
i felt no paranoia at all, i felt like 7 years beforebut its high sedation!!!! why not mak an abilify out of this, i feel were still living in the dark ages ... :(
Posted by ed_uk on May 20, 2005, at 14:37:18
In reply to Re: TO ED UK, posted by Jeroen on May 20, 2005, at 14:33:54
Hi J!
>but its high sedation!!!!
Have you ever tried Provigil? It might help with the sedation.
Kind regards,
Ed.
Posted by Jeroen on May 28, 2005, at 8:29:10
In reply to Re: TO ED UK » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on May 20, 2005, at 14:37:18
hey ed, just got home from another week of therapy
im on zyprexa 20 mg for 4 days now, my doc increased it
im also on TRANXENE 15 mg twice a daythe blinking is less but not gone...
i need your advice that i want to start taking lethicin 7500 mg and 15000 mg the second week, i purchased the gel capsules, each capsule contains 1200 mg of lecithin
is it safe to take letchin with zyprexa 20 mg, tranxene 15 mg
because the eye muscle cramp is less, maybe lethicin will make it worse?
my psy doc doesnt beleive in it, he only sais vitamine E works and tranxeneso is it safe? i really need your help on this...
cant discuss a normal conversation with my doctor,
Posted by ed_uk on May 28, 2005, at 10:20:24
In reply to TO ED UK - NEW MESSAGE, posted by Jeroen on May 28, 2005, at 8:29:10
Hi J!
>the blinking is less but not gone...
That's great :-)
>is it safe to take letchin with zyprexa 20 mg, tranxene 15 mg
I think so. You really need to ask Larry Hoover though! He's knows all about supplements :-)
>because the eye muscle cramp is less, maybe lethicin will make it worse?.....
I don't think it would.
Kind regards,
Ed.
Posted by Jeroen on May 28, 2005, at 10:46:49
In reply to Re: TO ED UK - NEW MESSAGE » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on May 28, 2005, at 10:20:24
i really am thinking bout the seroquel, i felt very good on it on 75 mg and took it once at night, i dont want 400 mg it will turn me into a zombie but on the other hand might repress my TD
should i go as high as 30 mg zyprexa for the blinking to go away?
i dont feel good on zyprexa then on the seroquel
Posted by ed_uk on May 28, 2005, at 11:28:51
In reply to Re: TO ED UK - NEW MESSAGE, posted by Jeroen on May 28, 2005, at 10:46:49
Hi J,
>i really am thinking bout the seroquel, i felt very good on it on 75 mg and took it once at night, i dont want 400 mg it will turn me into a zombie but on the other hand might repress my TD.........
........but you might not need as much as 400mg!
>should i go as high as 30 mg zyprexa for the blinking to go away?
No, I wouldn't recommend it. If 20mg doesn't work well I think it would be better to return to Seroquel :-)
Ed.
Posted by Jeroen on May 28, 2005, at 12:19:22
In reply to Re: TO ED UK - NEW MESSAGE » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on May 28, 2005, at 11:28:51
i felt good on dosage of 75 mg
ive read 150 mg is enough with people
400 mg makes me a zombie
Posted by ed_uk on May 28, 2005, at 13:13:36
In reply to Re: TO ED UK - NEW MESSAGE, posted by Jeroen on May 28, 2005, at 12:19:22
>400 mg makes me a zombie
It might not do if you worked your way up gradually. Anyway, your blinking might be improved on a much lower dose :-)
Yours,
Ed.
Posted by Phillipa on May 28, 2005, at 19:07:11
In reply to Re: TO ED UK - NEW MESSAGE » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on May 28, 2005, at 13:13:36
Hi Jeroen, Glad to hear the blinking is better. I don't think the lecithin will make it worse either but Larry is the one to ask. And as always listen to Ed. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Jeroen on May 31, 2005, at 8:05:16
In reply to Re: TO ED UK - NEW MESSAGE » ed_uk, posted by Phillipa on May 28, 2005, at 19:07:11
the hell with doctors, im going to try lethicin, im on zyprexa and tranxene
but im affraid please advice
Posted by Dr. Bob on June 1, 2005, at 21:41:37
In reply to Re: TO ED UK - NEW MESSAGE, posted by Jeroen on May 31, 2005, at 8:05:16
> im going to try lethicin
Sorry to interrupt, but I'd like to redirect follow-ups regarding lethicin to Psycho-Babble Alternative. Here's a link:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/alter/20050510/msgs/506579.html
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Jeroen on June 5, 2005, at 8:45:58
In reply to Redirect: lethicin, posted by Dr. Bob on June 1, 2005, at 21:41:37
im on zyprexa 20 mg and feel bad
the seroquel was a miracle for me, but im scared to get psychotic on it..
please i am out of options
Posted by ed_uk on June 5, 2005, at 9:40:17
In reply to im on zyprexa 20 mg and feel bad, posted by Jeroen on June 5, 2005, at 8:45:58
Hi J,
You are not out of options :-) I think you will be ok if you take the Seroquel twice daily. Now you are on Tranxene, you will have less anxiety :-)
Kind regards,
Ed.
Posted by Jeroen on June 5, 2005, at 10:32:29
In reply to Re: im on zyprexa 20 mg and feel bad » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on June 5, 2005, at 9:40:17
thanks but my doc said to keep zyprexa 20 mg for 1 month maybe it will help (it does not)
Posted by ed_uk on June 5, 2005, at 11:39:56
In reply to Re: im on zyprexa 20 mg and feel bad, posted by Jeroen on June 5, 2005, at 10:32:29
Hi J,
>maybe it will help (it does not)
Well, I suppose you will at least have given it a full trial. Let me know how it goes :-)
Kind regards,
Ed.
Posted by Phillipa on June 5, 2005, at 18:11:49
In reply to Re: im on zyprexa 20 mg and feel bad » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on June 5, 2005, at 11:39:56
Jeroen, You could ask the doctor. Have you told him that you want to try seroquel? Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Jeroen on June 11, 2005, at 6:51:40
In reply to Re: im on zyprexa 20 mg and feel bad » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on June 5, 2005, at 11:39:56
ok second week on zyprexa 20 mg, minimal to no improvement in eye blinking
i feel like sh*t on zyprexa
Posted by Phillipa on June 11, 2005, at 17:26:44
In reply to Re: im on zyprexa 20 mg and feel bad, posted by Jeroen on June 11, 2005, at 6:51:40
Haven't you told the doctor about how you feel about seroquel? Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by ed_uk on June 11, 2005, at 18:07:19
In reply to Re: im on zyprexa 20 mg and feel bad, posted by Jeroen on June 11, 2005, at 6:51:40
Hi J,
I really think it's time to switch to Seroquel. Perhaps you could discuss it with your doctor next week :-)
Kind regards,
Ed.
Posted by Jeroen on June 12, 2005, at 6:05:48
In reply to Re: im on zyprexa 20 mg and feel bad » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on June 11, 2005, at 18:07:19
im not sure asking seroquel, even it helped MUCH unlike any other anti psychotic, my paranoid taughts were gone
taking 400 mg will turn me into a zombie, i already tryed that
why cant the make abilify out of this? with minimal sedation!!!!
Posted by Jeroen on June 12, 2005, at 6:16:03
In reply to Re: im on zyprexa 20 mg and feel bad » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on June 11, 2005, at 18:07:19
its been 2 week on 20 mg of zyprexa
my doc sais i need to be atleast 1 month on it for its effect
after that if zyprexa dont work for me i will ask for Seroquel
i felt ok already the first days on seroquel, zyprexa DOESNT
should i try the schizophrenia dosage of seroquel or low dose 100 mg?
ive read 400 mg of seroquel can mask TD, i know someone whos TD reversed at this dosage
please can you tell me what i should do?
Posted by ed_uk on June 12, 2005, at 7:09:24
In reply to Zyprexa TRIAL, posted by Jeroen on June 12, 2005, at 6:16:03
Hi J!
>taking 400 mg will turn me into a zombie, i already tryed that.......
I know........but you suddenly took 400mg out of the blue! If you work your way up to a higher dose you might never get such bad side effects. Anyway, you might not need as much as 400mg :-)
>my doc sais i need to be atleast 1 month on it for its effect.......
OK, perhaps you should wait 2 more weeks on Zyprexa. If it doesn't help, you could ask for Seroquel.
>should i try the schizophrenia dosage of seroquel or low dose 100 mg?
Start at a low dose and gradually increase. When you reach a dose which is treating your symptoms with minimal side effects - stop increasing!
Kind regards,
Ed.
Posted by Jeroen on June 12, 2005, at 7:25:43
In reply to Re: Zyprexa TRIAL » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on June 12, 2005, at 7:09:24
i dont think my doctor wants to increase dosage by dosage, he will immediatelly build upto 400 mg so ill be a zombiew
Posted by ed_uk on June 12, 2005, at 7:54:08
In reply to Re: Zyprexa TRIAL, posted by Jeroen on June 12, 2005, at 7:25:43
Hi J,
>i dont think my doctor wants to increase dosage by dosage, he will immediatelly build upto 400 mg so ill be a zombie........
You could tell him about how good you felt when you gradually built up the dose before. Also, you could tell him how bad you felt when you took 400mg without building up.
Anyway, even if your doc increases the dose rapidly, the drowsiness will probably reduce after a few weeks :-)
Kind regards,
Ed.
Posted by Jeroen on June 12, 2005, at 10:42:07
In reply to Re: Zyprexa TRIAL » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on June 12, 2005, at 7:54:08
There has never been a definitive, validated and widely accepted treatment for TD. Dozens of drugs have been tested over the past 30 years with mixed results at best. The atypical antipsychotic clozapine has been reported to reverse persistent TD after 6-12 months, possibly through gradual "down-regulation" of supersensitive dopamine D2 receptors. Some preliminary reports suggest that other atypical antipsychotics may also help reverse TD.
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