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Posted by Corafree on April 25, 2005, at 15:49:42
In reply to Re: double double quotes » Dr. Bob, posted by winddancer on April 23, 2005, at 21:48:36
Okay, I want to try it out.
There is a book, ""TELLING YOURSELF THE TRUTH"" by William Backus & Marie Chapian, that is probably the single most helpful book I have ever read.
It is about 'saying you are too weak to do a thing' ... which is not true. It is a 'how to rid yourself of negative thoughts and statements' book, by realizing you are lieing to yourself.
Now will say best wishes and see if this works, cf
Posted by Corafree on April 25, 2005, at 15:56:22
In reply to Re: double double quotes » winddancer, posted by Dr. Bob on April 23, 2005, at 14:04:03
Okay, I want to try it out.
There is a book, ""YOU CAN FEEL GOOD AGAIN"" by Richard Carlson, Ph.D., that my father gave to me before he passed away last year.
I really need to read this book.
Now will say best wishes and see if this works, cf
Posted by Corafree on April 25, 2005, at 16:03:55
In reply to Re: double double quotes » Dr. Bob, posted by Corafree on April 25, 2005, at 15:56:22
I think I am doing this correctly because the double double quotes is linking me to Amazon, but apparently they have neither of these books.
Okay, I see! It says below ...
Sorry, no match at Amazon.
And it will not allow you to uncheck the 'link to Amazon' choice.
Thought one of these would be there. Sorry, cf
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 25, 2005, at 20:54:12
In reply to Re: double double quotes, posted by Corafree on April 25, 2005, at 16:03:55
Posted by winddancer on April 26, 2005, at 0:22:44
In reply to Re: thanks for trying (nm) » Corafree, posted by Dr. Bob on April 25, 2005, at 20:54:12
Hi,
I do not see a link to Amazon. Huh? where am I supposed to find it. The post by cf showed double double quotes but it didn't link me to Amazon, at least as far as I could tell.I guess I don't get it - I thought there would be an indication of a link to the Amazon site, but I see none.
winddancer
Posted by Corafree on April 26, 2005, at 10:47:42
In reply to Re: thanks for trying » Dr. Bob, posted by winddancer on April 26, 2005, at 0:22:44
WINDDANCER - I think the reason you didn't see it is because Amazon did not carry either of the books. If you try it, w/ a book they have or don't have, you will see the option to link to it. If you try to link to Amazon with a book they don't have, it won't work ... others will not see it. That's why you don't. Not having a good morn' here, but think that's correct. You've been on my mind. Been meaning to babble you ... will soon. cf
Posted by StayceeIB on April 26, 2005, at 22:03:05
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR? » StayceeIB, posted by Corafree on April 23, 2005, at 2:33:27
many days later I have nottaken anything..but my daily ativan b4 I sleep tho yesterday no panic attack..I ssee shrink friday not sure what to say? would lexapro help me teh same with less side effctes? I am scaredddddddddddd ofthis effexor. i am not sure I will ever take it!
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Posted by winddancer on April 27, 2005, at 7:35:37
In reply to Re: thanks for trying » winddancer, posted by Corafree on April 26, 2005, at 10:47:42
Thanks,
I'll look for your babble. How do you initiate a babble to someone? I have so far only replied to babbles.
winddancer
Posted by Corafree on April 27, 2005, at 8:55:58
In reply to Re: thanks for trying » Corafree, posted by winddancer on April 27, 2005, at 7:35:37
Winddancer:
My life 'isn't' right now ... I'm trying to pull together enough to even babble or post about!
To babble you, I would just double click on your name which is underlined, sort of brown in color, at the top of your post, where it says
Posted by winddancer on April 27, 2005, at 7:35:37
I can't underline your name here, but on your post it is underlined and brown ... that's where you double click. I believe if not brown in color, people don't accept babbling.
Try babbling me, best wishes cf
Posted by Phillipa on April 27, 2005, at 17:52:14
In reply to Re: thanks for trying » winddancer, posted by Corafree on April 27, 2005, at 8:55:58
The name appears blue on my computer if a person is accepting Babblemail, and black if it's turned off. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Corafree on April 27, 2005, at 18:17:26
In reply to Re: thanks for trying » Corafree, posted by Phillipa on April 27, 2005, at 17:52:14
Yep ... I know.
The writing is all purple and your name is blue. I'm thinking as long as the 'clickable name or word' is in a color which contrasts the rest of the writing, it is a link.
Maybe Dr. Bob can better explain.
Ya' got me!
Best Wishes this Weds, cf
Posted by AQUARIAS on April 28, 2005, at 15:39:52
In reply to Re: Permanently damaged!!!!!!!!!, posted by Kathleen on February 12, 2001, at 23:40:43
I'VE BEEN TAKING EFFEXER XR FOR ONLY 3 DAYS NOW, I TAKE IT AT NIGHT. FROM THE FIRST NIGHT I'VE HAD DULL CONSTANT HEADACHES, RESTLESSNESS, NASUEA,LOSS OF APPETITE, TIREDNESS, AND I FEEL LIKE I'M IN SLOW MOTION. SHOULD I GIVE IT MORE TIME? I DON'T WANTTO WALK AROUND NOT CARING ABOUT ANYTHING. THANKS
Posted by winddancer on April 28, 2005, at 16:15:31
In reply to Re: Permanently damaged!!!!!!!!!, posted by Lynn V on February 11, 2001, at 0:19:23
Hi,
I have many of the symptoms of fibromyalgia since I've taken Effexor, but it's not been diagnosed. I've never hurt so much all over my body as I do now. And I've stopped taking Effexor for about 3 weeks. The tendonitis in my hands is excrutiating and its extremely painful to write with a pen and very uncomfortable using the computer keyboard and mouse. I even got a mouse glidepoint pad and I haven't seen any improvement. I have had SI (low back) pain and sciatica off and on for about 5 years, but now it is so bad that I finally went in and had cortisone injections along my spine. This is after an MRI shows disc degeneration. I am going in for another MRI on my neck this afternoon, to see if they can find anything causing the hand pain and tingly fingers.
My doctor who administered the spinal cortisone said that low back pain can certainly lead to depression. And my MD and others sometimes dismiss back pain as a symptom of depression and I've heard that often they will treat back pain by prescribing an anti-depressant. Interesting, isn't it.
Winddancer
Posted by Phillipa on April 28, 2005, at 18:18:55
In reply to Re: Permanently damaged!!!!!!!!! » Lynn V, posted by winddancer on April 28, 2005, at 16:15:31
Be careful of those cortisone injections. I had a friend who got them and one day they missed. I can't remember all the details but she was bedbound. I had a herniated disc and I refused them. It healed on it's own. The only time my back and muscle aches went away was on cymbalta. I didn't realize they were gone until I stopped the med. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Corafree on April 28, 2005, at 18:28:36
In reply to Re: HOW LONG SHOULD I TAKE EFFEXER XR, posted by AQUARIAS on April 28, 2005, at 15:39:52
If you don't feel a lot better by this weekend, I, personally, would ask doc about decrease dosage or d.c. In fact, call today, tomorrow, the next day, every day until the 'darn' weekends. Sorry and hope someone will help you. cf
Posted by Corafree on April 28, 2005, at 18:34:38
In reply to Re: HOW LONG SHOULD I TAKE EFFEXER XR » AQUARIAS, posted by Corafree on April 28, 2005, at 18:28:36
Oh wait, today is Thur. You only have today and tomorrow to get through to your doc?? I would call now, in the morning, at noon tomorrow, and get immediate attn. Self advocate. You shouldn't feel so horrible ... I don't think that is okay. If they say it is ... ask them how you are supposed to tolerate it? bestwishes, cf
Posted by winddancer on April 28, 2005, at 21:06:36
In reply to Re: Permanently damaged!!!!!!!!! » winddancer, posted by Phillipa on April 28, 2005, at 18:18:55
I agree that caution is definitely merited with cortisone shots. I assured myself that I had the best doctor in the vacinity and am feeling complete relief since the shot. The dr found on the MRI a cyst that had a lot of fluid in it and was able to aspirate some of it out and said it had been pinching a nerve going down my leg. Apparently the cortisone has not had time to work yet, so my immediate relief is from the fluid removal. He does not recommend getting any more cortisone shots if this doesn't provide continuous relief, since repeated cortisone can damage tissues and shouldn't be used more than once or twice. If the pain returns, we'll need to talk about other solutions.
It's interesting that if I had not elected to go in for the shots, the fluid on the cyst would not have been addressed.
Thanks for the heads up to the list about cortisone injections around the spine being potentially dangerous. I did not enter into this procedure lightly.
Winddancer
Posted by Phillipa on April 28, 2005, at 21:44:18
In reply to Re: Permanently damaged!!!!!!!!! » Phillipa, posted by winddancer on April 28, 2005, at 21:06:36
I knew you wouldn't. But I just wanted to be sure. He sounds like a good doc to me. The one she saw kept giving her shots monthly until she had the bad reaction. Cyst? that's a new one. I'm glad you're feeling relief and hope the shot helps even more. Oh and my husband just remembered what happened it went to her brain. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Al_p on April 29, 2005, at 5:47:18
In reply to Anyone had success on Effexor XR? , posted by jp on October 24, 1999, at 14:59:14
I have had excellent results with this med Side effects are low Was previously on Zoloft And was mistakenly Diagnosed was also on stelazine For 10
years
Posted by Corafree on April 30, 2005, at 0:53:44
In reply to Re: Permanently damaged!!!!!!!!! » Phillipa, posted by winddancer on April 28, 2005, at 21:06:36
Winddancer - I thought you were have epidural injections? I assume you had trigger point injections, as I don't believe cortisone is ever used in epidurals. I had TPIs that afforded 5 wks of relief. They were great. I would rather have been able to continue those than to be on a narcotic all the time. You don't feel the same way? My injury is in the 2-3, 3-4, 4-5, so the 2-3 is at the very base of my head and causes intolerable headaches. I put off my MRI; have to get abdominal surgery first. I am wondering what they will find in my head, as I was beaten pretty badly. best wishes, cf
Posted by tiredguy on May 2, 2005, at 10:05:38
In reply to starting effexor... keep posting.. success/dosage?, posted by jp on October 25, 1999, at 12:01:53
I'm on 75 mg of XR. I also take 300 mg of Wellbutrin. I suffered from very high anxiety. It's now gone! I've been in a few very stressfull situations and have handled them well. The key for me is to see how long it will work for me. I tried a number of AD medications. Most worked for a few days and then stopped. I've been taking Effexor for about a month. The Jury is still out.
For side effects, I am tired all the time. I take Provigil which helps wake me up. If the tradeoff is tired vs anxious, I choose tired.
Posted by nancyb on May 2, 2005, at 15:40:34
In reply to Re: starting effexor... keep posting.. success/dosage?, posted by tiredguy on May 2, 2005, at 10:05:38
I've been on Effexor for 5 days. So far, I can tell an amazing difference! I am starting with the 37.5 mg. and moving to 75 in the next day or so. I have more energy than I have in years. I don't dwell on bad things. I was wrapping up in a blanket and sleeping from the time I got home from work until the next morning. Now, I'm not sleepy at all. That is one of the side effects for me -- restlessness when I'm supposed to be sleeping. My heart does beat funny sometimes, like it's beating through my shirt. I'd rather be up and energized than sleeping all the time.
Posted by Wendigo on May 2, 2005, at 16:21:59
In reply to Re: starting effexor... keep posting.. success/dos, posted by nancyb on May 2, 2005, at 15:40:34
Hello all. I've taken Effexor XR for about a year (150 mg) and wondered if any of you noticed certain [for lack of better word] alcoholic tendencies while taking it; I mean, before taking antidepressants I was an occasional drinker, at most a weekend drinker (3-4 drinks [wine/beer]). Although I enjoyed drinking, and had a fairly high tolerance for alcohol, I never considered myself an alcoholic or someone with a "drinking habit" or problem. I am, however, a recovering anorexic/bulimic (no episodes in 8 years); I wonder if I have traded one disorder for another, or if taking Effexor (for depression, social anxiety) has anything at all to do with my recent excessive alcohol consumption. I know it could be coincidental, but I also know that my tolerance (without medication fairly high) is even greater while on Effexor (which I assumed was due to the antidepressant counteracting the depressant effects of alcohol). I find myself drinking more to achieve any effect (I'm aware that this could also indicate addiction). I've never been truly suicidal, but my recent lack of control with alcohol has caused great stress in my marriage--my lying and deceit (about purchase/consumption of alcohol) and my husband's accusations, spying/snooping (can't really blame him, although he is a rather controlling/paternal person) have left me with little sense of self...I feel irresponsible for having had kids, etc. Any insights? I only wonder whether my increased desire to drink has anything to do with the Effexor because while postpartum several years ago I took Prozac, and experienced a similar urge to drink, and to drink greater quantities, than when taking no medication.
I've read the warnings about drinking alcohol while taking antidepressants, which state that the alcohol increases drowsiness, dizziness, and that the antidepressant will intensify the effects of alcohol, but this doesn't seem to be the case for me.
I don't want to become an alcoholic, and have begun gradually to decrease my dosage of Effexor to see the effect on my urge to drink.Sorry if this is repetitive; I posted a similar message elsewhere in psycho-babble (I'm new to this).
Posted by nancyb on May 2, 2005, at 16:40:50
In reply to Effexor XR: Can ALCOHOLISM be a side effect?, posted by Wendigo on May 2, 2005, at 16:21:59
I know that I have a tendency to want to drink too. However, I wanted to do that before I was taking Effexor. I live by myself, so I was drinking to find some way to feel better about myself. That is to say, that if I didn't feel anything, I couldn't feel bad about myself or anything else. It was a lie. I felt really bad the next day! Depression makes me feel bad; I drink to feel good; I then feel bad again. Doesn't help. I was raised with a mother who didn't drink, but took drugs. We were given drugs, either OTC, or prescription, for practically everything. So, my mind set is -- feel bad, ingest something and you will feel better. I absolutely love taking drugs -- uppers, downers, alcohol, you name it. But, I have a low tolerance and feel really awful the next day. I'm trying to stay away from that, and I'm having some success. I'm not addicted because I can say no. I only do it when I'm bored. Effexor has given me the energy to get my butt up and do stuff. And, I'm actually smiling. So, as long as I'm feeling this way, I don't want to drink.
Posted by Corafree on May 2, 2005, at 18:08:49
In reply to Effexor XR: Can ALCOHOLISM be a side effect?, posted by Wendigo on May 2, 2005, at 16:22:43
When I was taking Effexer-XR (not plain Effexor), I noticed definitely noticed something. I felt it was 'a gift of sorts'. My tendencies to drink completely vanished. Opposite reactions, I believe, are out there. Best wishes, cf
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