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Posted by Jeroen on March 10, 2005, at 17:09:30
In reply to Re: Jeroen, don't hurt yourself, posted by ed_uk on March 10, 2005, at 16:48:36
could this be the problem?
i only took it at night, 1 week passed and im still withdrawing, meds take 2 weeks to get out of my system
anyway i have success with zyprexa also with blinking but, first i took 5 mg for a week then increased upto 10 mg for 2 weeks, blinking was decreased by 40% by week 3 but i gained weight and quit it for this reason, very stupid indeed!!! ill add amantadine to my zyprexa
but when i took 10 mg for 2 week straight, i was almost blind, any theorys?? very weird isnt it???
VERY
anyway didnt continue any longer for it to go even more less or soshould give it a 8 week trial at highest dosage to see the results what do you think?
so if this fails, i will definatelly give the seroquel a try
thanks for your time ed, i hope we meet once and i wont be blinking hahahaahahaaaa :)
Posted by Jeroen on March 10, 2005, at 17:14:55
In reply to Re: Jeroen, don't hurt yourself » Jeroen, posted by SLS on March 10, 2005, at 8:53:58
yes, i had a small eye blinking tic actually before but didnt bother me at all
the geodon has caused it to become very worse
mmm there must have been an underlying condition and the geodon must have triggered it, what can this underlying condition be? ITS FACT!!!
Posted by ed_uk on March 10, 2005, at 18:08:44
In reply to TO SLS IMPORTANT, posted by Jeroen on March 10, 2005, at 17:14:55
Hi J,
Perhaps you would benefit from a drug other than an AP to treat your tic/blepharospasm/whatever. I can think of a few drugs which might be useful, I will make some suggestions tomorrow.
Sleep well,
Ed.
Posted by Phillipa on March 11, 2005, at 17:36:51
In reply to Re: TO SLS IMPORTANT, posted by ed_uk on March 10, 2005, at 18:08:44
Jeroen, Where are you? Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Jeroen on March 11, 2005, at 18:43:22
In reply to Re: TO SLS IMPORTANT, posted by Phillipa on March 11, 2005, at 17:36:51
im here, i started zyprexa 5 mg, in 3 weeks from now my blinking will be 40% less
Posted by Phillipa on March 11, 2005, at 19:27:48
In reply to Re: TO SLS IMPORTANT, posted by Jeroen on March 11, 2005, at 18:43:22
Jeroen, Where do you get your meds? Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Jeroen on March 12, 2005, at 6:05:16
In reply to Re: TO SLS IMPORTANT » Jeroen, posted by Phillipa on March 11, 2005, at 19:27:48
from the local pharmacy, and the doc at hospital prescrived zyprexa for me
Posted by Jeroen on March 12, 2005, at 9:04:10
In reply to Re: TO SLS IMPORTANT » Jeroen, posted by Phillipa on March 11, 2005, at 19:27:48
Zyprexa after 3 weeks - 40% improvement in eye problem, can it improve much more after weeks therafter or is the limit reached the first 3 weeks?
any theorys?
low dose 5 - 10 mg
i will also take amantadine for weight gain
Posted by SLS on March 12, 2005, at 14:19:03
In reply to Zyprexa after 3 weeks - 40% improvement in eye pro, posted by Jeroen on March 12, 2005, at 9:04:10
Hi Jeroen
> i will also take amantadine for weight gainWho's idea was this?
I know of someone whom had great success preventing Zyprexa weight gain using amantadine.
- Scott
Posted by Jeroen on March 12, 2005, at 14:25:14
In reply to Re: Zyprexa after 3 weeks - 40% improvement in eye pro » Jeroen, posted by SLS on March 12, 2005, at 14:19:03
http://www.psycheducation.org/depression/meds/amantadine.htm
i am going to do it, if i dont have serious side effects
Posted by Phillipa on March 12, 2005, at 15:14:02
In reply to Re: Zyprexa after 3 weeks - 40% improvement in eye pro, posted by Jeroen on March 12, 2005, at 14:25:14
Jeroen, I'm glad to know you are under a pdocs care. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by ed_uk on March 12, 2005, at 15:44:37
In reply to Re: Zyprexa after 3 weeks - 40% improvement in eye pro, posted by Jeroen on March 12, 2005, at 14:25:14
Good luck J!
Ed.
Posted by ed_uk on March 12, 2005, at 17:02:28
In reply to Re: Zyprexa after 3 weeks - 40% improvement in eye pro, posted by ed_uk on March 12, 2005, at 15:44:37
Hello,
The nicotine patch can sometimes relieve tics, it has been used to treat Tourette's syndrome. I wonder whether it might help Jeroen.
Ed.
Posted by Phillipa on March 12, 2005, at 17:10:15
In reply to Re: Nicotine, posted by ed_uk on March 12, 2005, at 17:02:28
Hi Ed! I didn't know this. It's worth a try though isn't it? Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Jeroen on March 13, 2005, at 9:57:42
In reply to Re: Nicotine » ed_uk, posted by Phillipa on March 12, 2005, at 17:10:15
lol nicotine for tardive dyskinesia, when i smoke the eye blinking spasms are getting worse
anyway, iv been a week of Seroquel and i am still withdrawing, mmm i had this psychotic panic attack still week after withdrawing,
remember i only took 75 mg at night nothing in the morning, and it started on day 6 on 75 mg in 3 PM afternoon
even a week off i had same problems, i think ur right it might been taking the dosage not right
i had the same thing with GEODON if i missed one dose i get hardcore anxiety and my heart beating like crazy
mmm ed can you answer this question, what would usually happen when i dont take seroquel twice a day?could this be the problem because i didnt took it twice a day? and i already in the afternoon suffering from withdrawal symptoms like i have now a week later totally of it?
if thats the case the seroquel might cure me. but im not sure of cure of my eye problem
Posted by ed_uk on March 13, 2005, at 10:53:48
In reply to TO ED UK - QUESTION, posted by Jeroen on March 13, 2005, at 9:57:42
Hi J,
>lol nicotine for tardive dyskinesia, when i smoke the eye blinking spasms are getting worse
:-( I don't suppose a nicotine patch would help then. Anyway, this could be a good opportunity to quit smoking!!
>remember i only took 75 mg at night nothing in the morning, and it started on day 6 on 75 mg in 3 PM afternoon
The panic attack could have been a withdrawal symptom, at 3pm it was a long time since your last dose, the amount of Seroquel in your brain would have been low when you had the attack.
Tell me this....
Was the panic attack that you had while you were taking Seroquel similar to the one that you had after you'd stopped Seroquel?
>could this be the problem because i didnt took it twice a day?
It could be, if you want to try Seroquel again you could take it every 12 hours, twice daily. For example, you could take your morning dose at 8am and your evening dose at 8pm.
Seroquel has a short half-life (about 6 to 7 hours). You might need to take it three times a day!
Ed.
Posted by Jeroen on March 13, 2005, at 11:03:06
In reply to Re: TO ED UK - QUESTION » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on March 13, 2005, at 10:53:48
< Was the panic attack that you had while you were taking Seroquel similar to the one that you had after you'd stopped Seroquel?
yes, also i experienced things in slow motion, like door opening, very scary really
Posted by Jeroen on March 13, 2005, at 11:03:55
In reply to Re: TO ED UK - QUESTION, posted by Jeroen on March 13, 2005, at 11:03:06
but im on zyprexa atm, 5 mg, after 10 days i will increase my dosage to 10 mg
Posted by ed_uk on March 13, 2005, at 11:33:23
In reply to Re: TO ED UK - QUESTION, posted by Jeroen on March 13, 2005, at 11:03:55
Hi J!
You sound better today, calmer :-)
>but im on zyprexa atm, 5 mg, after 10 days i will increase my dosage to 10 mg
Good luck! I really hope it works out. If not, you can always return to Seroquel. Leponex could be useful if Seroquel doesn't work out.
Ed.
Posted by Jeroen on March 13, 2005, at 12:05:26
In reply to Re: TO ED UK - QUESTION » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on March 13, 2005, at 11:33:23
thanks
Posted by Jeroen on March 13, 2005, at 16:02:06
In reply to Re: TO ED UK - QUESTION, posted by Jeroen on March 13, 2005, at 12:05:26
im always thinking of killing myself in a few monts from now on, if the zyprexa doesnt cure my eye problem i want to die...
tardive dyskinesia develops after months even not years even from HALDOL, i know someone who had eye blinking after like 12 years of usethe GEODON madness gave it after 3 weeks 20 mg twice a day,
this is absolute madness
I AM SO DUMB, i DONT LIKE MYSELF ANYMORE
i want a new life, and a new body, i am suffering very long time now and enough is enough!!!!!!!!
god dont want me to have happyness, have a girlfriend etc, im so f*cked up.
Posted by Phillipa on March 13, 2005, at 16:28:26
In reply to im always thinking of killing myself in a few mont, posted by Jeroen on March 13, 2005, at 16:02:06
Jeroen, Try and calm down. You will be okay. Take your meds as the doctor ordered. Try some deep breathing. You have been doing very well the last few days, listening to Scott, and Ed. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by SLS on March 14, 2005, at 0:04:14
In reply to im always thinking of killing myself in a few mont, posted by Jeroen on March 13, 2005, at 16:02:06
> im always thinking of killing myself in a few monts from now on, if the zyprexa doesnt cure my eye problem i want to die...
Sorry, Jeroen, but you have already committed to waiting until 2006. :-)
I am not making light of your frustration and pain. I am pointing out how labile one's feelings can be regarding suicide. Please do not act on a momentary impulse to perform an act that is forever irreversible.
Q: What is the purpose of life?
A: Life is its own purpose.
C: You have purpose.
Hang in there. You are doing a good job being persistent in advocating for your attainment of health. Setbacks are often inevitable.
- Scott
Posted by Jeroen on March 14, 2005, at 5:35:40
In reply to Re: im always thinking of killing myself in a few mont » Jeroen, posted by SLS on March 14, 2005, at 0:04:14
i still have panick attacks from seroquel withdrawal
Posted by SLS on March 14, 2005, at 6:20:10
In reply to Re: im always thinking of killing myself in a few mont, posted by Jeroen on March 14, 2005, at 5:35:40
> i still have panick attacks from seroquel withdrawal
You know how some people suggest to take one day at a time? That's good advice, but sometimes doesn't take into consideration those times that are the most intensely painful. For those, you might have to take one moment at a time. To get through even one hour might be a momentous achievement.
I don't know what else to say to you at the moment, except that you could perhaps discuss with your doctor the use of Klonopin. Make sure you tell your doctor about everything you are thinking, feeling, and experiencing.
Take care of yourself.
- Scott
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