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Posted by MrsT on January 15, 2004, at 22:32:59
In reply to Sudden descent into Efexor hell » kattay, posted by omegon on January 12, 2004, at 15:34:48
I am trying to come off of the Effexor. I tried cold turkey. BOY WAS THAT A MISTAKE!!!!! Over the last month I have went from 150mg to 37.5mg. Each day I try to wait a little later and a little later until I am taking 37.5 everyother day. I still experince headaches and the weird feeling in my head and sometimes down my arms but I will over come this. I decided that the the effects it was having on me wasn't worth it. I felt moody with or without it. Has anyone experienced in an uncontrolable mouth meaning feeling out of control with what comes out. I very seldom cuss but have found myself cussing for reasons that are not really that big of a deal. I have heard some people call this the devils drug. I do wonder.
Posted by creeppedOutWendy on January 16, 2004, at 10:17:20
In reply to Re: Brain zaps, posted by KimRN73 on January 15, 2004, at 21:10:03
Yes, I had the symptoms that everyone described for "Brain zaps" while I was taking it too. When my doctor prescribed me Effexor, she specifically, told me to take it right before I go to sleep so I won't feel the effect of it. I followed the instruction, but sometime I took the pill and then stay on the phone and times went by. Next thing I know, it was an hour or two after I took it and I'm still up. I started to feel this brain zaps thing. Of course, I went to sleep right away and understood my doctor's concern. So, my suggestion would be to take it before you go to bed. I'm not sure if it's possible for you since you mentioned taking it more than once a day. I was only taking it once a day. Anyway, I hope this helps you somehow. Take care.
Posted by kattay on January 16, 2004, at 11:01:22
In reply to Re: My Pdoc quit on me! scarier than I thought » Mercedes, posted by omegon on January 15, 2004, at 20:12:53
> > While on effexor, I also got blurred vision expecially after using the computer (doing research on my illness for goodness sakes!) and had to have my glasses changed six times in 14 months. And I still get the blurred vision.
>
> I'm wondering if it's not something to do with pupil dilation. I had both. The blurred vision _seemed_ to decrease with time on efexor, but judging by the difference I've noticed coming off it, this may have been purely subjective, "getting used to it" (by which I mean forgetting how it used to be, rather than learning to see as clearly with blurred input). I'm now on fluoxetine, and my pupils seem permanently fixed at HALF their efexor size, as if in rebellion. Shame. I kind of liked my big eyes, drinking in the world - such as I could see, anyway. Now I look disinterested. Feel it, too.
>
> Strangely enough, even while on efexor, people at work often said I have the text size on my computer set very small and they couldn't read it! Crystal clear to me. Can the brain compensate for persistent blurred vision by getting better at decoding blurred symbols, "turning up the sharpness"? I doubt it. Maybe our vision is clearer than we think
The blurred vision made me think of something. I've been thinking of getting lasik done but i wonder if i can because of being on effexor xr?
I don't have blurred vision though. I'm one of the lucky and so far no bad side affects. I'm only on 75mg though.
Posted by PoohBear on January 16, 2004, at 11:56:25
In reply to Am I the only one here that likes Effexor?, posted by Paco on January 11, 2004, at 19:48:27
I also have had a mainly positive experience with Effexor, after some intital bumps getting my doseage worked out.
I'm now taking it in combination with Remeron, taking each med 12 hours apart: Effexor in the AM and Remeron in the PM when I hit the sack.
I would suggest for anyone that is havin adverse SE's to speak with their PDoc. The worst of mine, including the "Brain Zaps" went away when we lowered the doseage for 225mg, back down to 75mg. But then my system seems to respond well to smaller doses than larger.
YMMV,
TR
Posted by Bairbe on January 16, 2004, at 12:09:42
In reply to Effexor XR for menopause?, posted by rdeoldy2 on July 17, 2003, at 19:14:24
The claim is Effexor Found to Reduce Hot Flashes by Over 60%
To see what Breastcancer.org says about it go to:
Posted by Zellie on January 16, 2004, at 13:33:05
In reply to Re: Effexor XR for menopause?, posted by Bairbe on January 16, 2004, at 12:09:42
Bairbe:
Thanks for the link you included. Very informative.
Kindest regards,
Zellie
> The claim is Effexor Found to Reduce Hot Flashes by Over 60%
>
> To see what Breastcancer.org says about it go to:
>
> http://www.breastcancer.org/res_news_effexor.html
Posted by flyingdreams on January 16, 2004, at 16:34:26
In reply to How long would these withdrawal symtoms last?, posted by creeppedOutWendy on January 14, 2004, at 9:47:31
Hi Everyone!
I'm starting a writing campaign to Dateline NBC, please email:
and inform them of how bad your withdrawl symptoms are going off Effexor. That this is NOT the non addictive, "happy Pill" they are pushing heavy to the public to make big bucks!
If we send enough letters, it might get their attention enough to warrant a story and get the FACTS out there to the public. These drug companies should NOT get away with these outright lies! Let's stand up and be heard!
Thanks,
Wendy
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 18, 2004, at 14:27:14
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR? YES! , posted by Shel on July 18, 2000, at 1:35:45
Posted by CityBoi1971 on January 17, 2004, at 7:34:14
I am on 300Mg of Effexor-XR and I was wondering if anyone else has had success with this drug, if so, it wold be great to hear from you.
Anyone else on more than 300MG of the extended release form of Effexor-XR?
Thanks for your feedback.
Nick
Posted by Salty_Dog on January 19, 2004, at 0:53:50
In reply to Re: success on Effexor XR « CityBoi1971, posted by Dr. Bob on January 18, 2004, at 14:27:14
> Posted by CityBoi1971 on January 17, 2004, at 7:34:14
>
> I am on 300Mg of Effexor-XR and I was wondering if anyone else has had success with this drug, if so, it wold be great to hear from you.
>
> Anyone else on more than 300MG of the extended release form of Effexor-XR?
>
> Thanks for your feedback.
> Nick
Hello All,
I am currently tapering from 600mg to 300mg. I've been at 600mg for half a year. All but one of the SE's went away - loss of energy. I am taking remeron 45mg now and have begun tapering down the dosage of Effexor XR. One of the best ways I have found so far for tapering is to get alot of sleep. I use the weekends as taper down periods. I sleep from Friday night to Monday morning while initially stepping down to dosage. I enjoy the dreams more than I do reality. On these weekends I slow down my eating and drink plenty of water. I get up just long enough to take my meds at the usual times.I am begining to wonder if the 'Zaps' have something to do with blood-sugar levels. I don't currently seem to have the 'Zaps' but with this drug - anything goes.
I take Effexor XR at noon and remeron and zyprexa at night. All I know is I can't very the timing of the Effexor XR without feeling it.
Good luck all,
Posted by kaylex on January 19, 2004, at 10:37:50
In reply to Re: Thank You All, posted by Sierra on June 8, 2001, at 10:54:04
I have been on Effexor for about a month now... and except for some small side affects,,,, it is working out great for me!!!!
Im happier with my kids,,, Im loving my husband again,,, and I am now motivated to do things... like clean my house and go to work again,,,
The only bad part about it,, is drinking,,, If I have one drink I'm fine,, but anymore then that and I get stupid,,, or I pass out,, its gotten so bad that my husband has banned me from drinking until I'm well enough to go off the drug!!!
Does anyone else have this same problem???
Posted by PoohBear on January 19, 2004, at 10:46:49
In reply to Drinking and Effexor dont mix!!, posted by kaylex on January 19, 2004, at 10:37:50
I HAVE had a little wine on perhaps two ocassions in the past 3 months on Effexor, but I've decided that if there's a big label on the bottle that says "DO NOT USE ALCOHOL WITH THIS MEDICATION", it's just not worth the risks.
TR
Posted by ZAPPA on January 19, 2004, at 12:24:02
In reply to Electrical shock-like sensations , posted by sick of being sick on January 4, 2004, at 21:22:30
I am also experiencing "brain zapps". I began drug and psychotherapy in August of 2003 for "major depressive disorder". Initially Zoloft,replaced by Effexor XR. Starting Effexor at 35mg per day increasing to 300mg per day over a 6 week period. I must admit that I no longer felt depressed. However, I did not "feel" anything until the sensory disturbances or "brain zaps" began. I reduced my dosage to "wean" myself but my doctor wanted me to stop cold turkey. It has been almost 1 week since I stopped taking this RX but the zapps continue in unison with eye movement. It is very hard to try and explain to my family what I am feeling. They just give me that condescending "look", as if saying "Mom is just tripping again" (actually the only time I tripp is when my brain gets zapped and I become dizzy. At this time I am more concerned with these sensory f*rts then I am with the depression. How long will they last? Anybody? Anybody?....please
Posted by omegon on January 19, 2004, at 14:29:11
In reply to Drinking and Effexor dont mix!!, posted by kaylex on January 19, 2004, at 10:37:50
> The only bad part about it is drinking. If I have one drink I'm fine, but anymore then that and I get stupid, or I pass out. It's gotten so bad that my husband has banned me from drinking until I'm well enough to go off the drug!
> Does anyone else have this same problem?Yes. Efexor got rid of the craving for alcohol which I had while on paroxetine, but if I had one drink, it was very hard to stop until I was wrecked. (I didn't react well to efexor in general, though: had to discontinue due to severe mood swings)
Posted by omegon on January 19, 2004, at 14:33:57
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR?, posted by Salty_Dog on January 19, 2004, at 0:53:50
> One of the best ways I have found so far for tapering is to get alot of sleep. I use the weekends as taper down periods. I sleep from Friday night to Monday morning while initially stepping down to dosage.
This is just what I did last weekend when going through bad withdrawals from efexor.
> I enjoy the dreams more than I do reality.
Yes! I can sympathise with this. Even though the dreams were terrible nightmares, I still wanted to be asleep rather than awake.
> On these weekends I slow down my eating and drink plenty of water. I get up just long enough to take my meds at the usual times.
Actually, this sounds like most weekends for me since I went on efexor. No energy for anything, not even eating.
Posted by KimberlyDi on January 19, 2004, at 16:32:37
In reply to using sleep for withdrawal » Salty_Dog, posted by omegon on January 19, 2004, at 14:33:57
I haven't had Effexor for 3 days now (I know from experience that day 4 is the worst so I might take 1/2 a 37.5mg amount). I have been having the most sexually intense dreams and experiencing a slight return of my sex drive. This since having zero zilch sex drive since May of 2003 when I began Effexor. I'm afraid to get my hopes up after being numb for so long, but if those dreams continue, my husband's going to be a very happy man.
Brain shivers are less intense. I also think I'm more careful about moving my head left or right while walking. Funny how adapting to Effexor's side effects may leave long-term changes in behavior.
Wanted to post a positive note about life after Effexor. It does get better. :)
KDi in TX
Posted by KimRN73 on January 19, 2004, at 18:12:37
In reply to Re: Electrical shock-like sensations » sick of being sick, posted by ZAPPA on January 19, 2004, at 12:24:02
Hey there....
I am so sick of these "zaps" or whatever also !!
I describe them to doctors and they look at me like I dont know what I'm talking about. I am NOT on Effexor XR, I take the regular tablets. I tend to take them with food around 9am, feel funny in my head approx. 6 hrs later. I also get the feeling that my ears need to pop, and I feel so "out of it"...anyone else???? I hope Im not going nuts!!!!!!!! :) Would like to know if anyone else has similar symptoms. Im on 75mg twice a day. Have tried to switch to XR but I go SOOOOOOOOOOOOO DIZZY. AND im afraid to get off of Effexor.....maybe if i start taking something else WHILE im tapering off?? any ideas anyone??????
I am going to my doctor tomorrow to talk about all this CRUD !!! :) thanks.....Kim
Posted by shadows721 on January 19, 2004, at 19:48:54
In reply to Re: Sudden descent into Efexor hell, posted by MrsT on January 15, 2004, at 22:32:59
That almost sounds like a stroke symptom. I have heard that when people have a stroke on a certain part of the brain, they will tend to curse a lot. I wonder if Effexor affected this part of the brain. I don't think you are having strokes, but I do think that effexor affected that lobe of your brain. Take it slow with the taper. Prozac has been mentioned to help in the withdrawal process. Take care.
Posted by Mercedes on January 19, 2004, at 20:50:41
In reply to Re: Electrical shock-like sensations » sick of being sick, posted by ZAPPA on January 19, 2004, at 12:24:02
Zappa,
I cannot beleive, well yes I do, that your doc told you to stop cold turkey.I too was on 300 mgs of Effexor and weened myself down. If I remember right, cause my memory was affected too, I went down to 225 for a week then 150 for two weeks, then 75 for a week, maybe two, don't remember, then 37.5 for two weeks, then nothing. Each decrease from the 150 had the brain zaps, with eye movement, even typing, was a brain zap with each keystroke.
Then the REAL zaps and dizzyness and confusion and.... started and it took me 5 weeks to finally be free of Effexor. That was my experience in weening down.
Good luck and push your doc to research what you're feeling. That's why he/she get's paid.
Mercedes
Posted by Mercedes on January 19, 2004, at 21:45:56
In reply to Re: Drinking and Effexor dont mix!! » kaylex, posted by omegon on January 19, 2004, at 14:29:11
This happened to me too while on Effexor. First, I didn't crave alcohol once I was up to the 75 mg dose or maybe the 150mg dose. Yet once in a while I went to our 'only' bar with freinds and when I drank, I got very happy and talkative at first, then another frink and anopher and was so frigg'n frunk. I'd have 'black-out's' of the night before. Then it took 3 days or so for me to get it back together....head wise. So I chose not to drink.
I went on Lexapro for about a month, didn't drink, now on Zoloft and Lamictal. I do crave a drink every now and then and still trying not to have one. It's kinda hard when family get's together and most everyone is drink'n, but it's doable. And not having a hangover the next day, is rewarding in itself.
Hang in there!
Mercedes.
> > The only bad part about it is drinking. If I have one drink I'm fine, but anymore then that and I get stupid, or I pass out. It's gotten so bad that my husband has banned me from drinking until I'm well enough to go off the drug!
> > Does anyone else have this same problem?
>
> Yes. Efexor got rid of the craving for alcohol which I had while on paroxetine, but if I had one drink, it was very hard to stop until I was wrecked. (I didn't react well to efexor in general, though: had to discontinue due to severe mood swings)
Posted by micro on January 19, 2004, at 23:46:07
In reply to Re: Electrical shock-like sensations » sick of being sick, posted by ZAPPA on January 19, 2004, at 12:24:02
> I am also experiencing "brain zapps". I began drug and psychotherapy in August of 2003 for "major depressive disorder". Initially Zoloft,replaced by Effexor XR. Starting Effexor at 35mg per day increasing to 300mg per day over a 6 week period. I must admit that I no longer felt depressed. However, I did not "feel" anything until the sensory disturbances or "brain zaps" began. I reduced my dosage to "wean" myself but my doctor wanted me to stop cold turkey. It has been almost 1 week since I stopped taking this RX but the zapps continue in unison with eye movement. It is very hard to try and explain to my family what I am feeling. They just give me that condescending "look", as if saying "Mom is just tripping again" (actually the only time I tripp is when my brain gets zapped and I become dizzy. At this time I am more concerned with these sensory f*rts then I am with the depression. How long will they last? Anybody? Anybody?....please
Hello, I believe that you are going through discontinuance syndrome. Please ask your physician to reinstitute a small dose of your med to calm your symtoms. You should have some immediate relief.Then please taper your dose gradually a week at a time or slower based on how you respond.Your docs request to taper rapidly is not for you and please let him know! You will feel better soon. Regards, micro
Posted by Madigan on January 20, 2004, at 0:30:52
In reply to Re: Electrical shock-like sensations » ZAPPA, posted by KimRN73 on January 19, 2004, at 18:12:37
Hi Kim,
I was just browsing the posts on Effexor (both the XR and the regular) when I saw your post about a "brain zap" sensation. Years ago, I experienced that exact thing on Prozac. My doctor said was some sort of psychosomatic symptom, but I want to reasure you, you're NOT NUTS. It's real! I don't know if it goes away or not; I stopped taking the med before I found out. Now, believe it or not, I'm contemplating talking to my doctor about Effexor.
Hope you get some relief,
Madigan
Posted by PoohBear on January 20, 2004, at 9:35:05
In reply to Re: Electrical shock-like sensations » KimRN73, posted by Madigan on January 20, 2004, at 0:30:52
>Now, believe it or not, I'm contemplating talking to my doctor about Effexor.
>Madigan:
Effexor has helped many, including me. There is a very vocal minority here that have had very real, bad experiences. Since this is the case with nearly any med, you should not hesitate to try it, if you and your doctor feel that it will yield good results.
TR
Posted by Madigan on January 20, 2004, at 17:55:18
In reply to Re: Electrical shock-like sensations, posted by PoohBear on January 20, 2004, at 9:35:05
Hi TR,
Good point. Kim's "brain zaps" do give me pause, but not enough to keep me from at least talking to my doctor about it. I have clinical depression (had it most of my life), situational depression (father passed away), and severe PMS or PMDD. A friend suggested Effexor, thought it might help me. So far, SSRIs have been ineffectual or intolerable. I'm wary, but open to at least talking to the doc about it.
Thanks for your input!
Madigan
Posted by Salty_Dog on January 20, 2004, at 19:05:37
In reply to Re: Electrical shock-like sensations, posted by Madigan on January 20, 2004, at 17:55:18
> Hi TR,
>
> Good point. Kim's "brain zaps" do give me pause, but not enough to keep me from at least talking to my doctor about it. I have clinical depression (had it most of my life), situational depression (father passed away), and severe PMS or PMDD. A friend suggested Effexor, thought it might help me. So far, SSRIs have been ineffectual or intolerable. I'm wary, but open to at least talking to the doc about it.
>
> Thanks for your input!
>
> MadiganMadigan,
You may have better success with remeron or it's counterpart imipri???(I don't have a clue on how to spell that one - and I don't have first hand knowledge of it). These drugs don't get you all up in a bunch before you know which way is up. I group Effexor (XR) in the same category as Xanax in terms of physical dependancies, don't go there for the fun of it - You may end up going on to higher doses (225 - 300 mg) and before you know it - your stuck. The ramp up time on Effexor XR is long enough (Manufacture's samples) to hook your mind into a problem zone in terms of forgetting what you set out to do.Here is a good web site:
http://www.nami.org/Content/NavigationMenu/Inform_Yourself/About_Mental_Illness/About_Treatments_and_Supports/About_Medications/Default798.htmIt's a non-profit (not supported by the drug manufactures) source on info. concerning many mental health issues.
Of course, it you are bored, try Effexor XR - your life will never be the same (good or bad).
Sorry for the long winded posting but I do not recomend Effexor XR to any one I love or like. It works, but, ........... the side are hell going on and getting off.
P.S. I am still at the 600mg taper down to 300mg - it is a difficult at the top range as it is at the bottom range ( 75 to 0 mg).
Posted by Gummybear on January 20, 2004, at 20:21:52
In reply to Re: Electrical shock-like sensations » ZAPPA, posted by KimRN73 on January 19, 2004, at 18:12:37
> Hey there....
> I am so sick of these "zaps" or whatever also !!
> I describe them to doctors and they look at me like I dont know what I'm talking about. I am NOT on Effexor XR, I take the regular tablets. I tend to take them with food around 9am, feel funny in my head approx. 6 hrs later. I also get the feeling that my ears need to pop, and I feel so "out of it"...anyone else???? I hope Im not going nuts!!!!!!!! :) Would like to know if anyone else has similar symptoms. Im on 75mg twice a day. Have tried to switch to XR but I go SOOOOOOOOOOOOO DIZZY. AND im afraid to get off of Effexor.....maybe if i start taking something else WHILE im tapering off?? any ideas anyone??????
> I am going to my doctor tomorrow to talk about all this CRUD !!! :) thanks.....KimHey Kim,
Don't worry your totally NOT alone, the first three weeks when I was on Effexor XR I also felt like my ears needed to be popped. It was so wierd, I wasn't sure if I was imagining or not - but now that you mention it... I remember thinking that maybe I had an ear infection or that it was from altitude... couldn't figure it out.
And I was also really dizzy too, I still get dizzy sometimes. Every second day or almost every day after work at around 4pm or so I start feeling totally out of it and get a REALLY BAD headache, my heart starts beating fast, and I get disoriented...... is that like you??? I'm not sure if it's from my anxiety or the med... but it sucks. I start feeling totally out of it and can barely keep it together - can barely hold a conversation or even watch a tv show.I'm been on Effexor XR 75mg once a day between 3pm-5pm for over 6 weeks now.
help... anyone else feel like this??
G. Bear.
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