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Posted by shay on August 28, 2003, at 15:29:41
In reply to re: New User » shay, posted by lil' jimi on August 28, 2003, at 15:06:52
> hi Shay,
>
> > You guys are so nice! :) I really appreciate all of the feedback! I definitely want to give this a try and don't want to feel like I do anymore. I'm tired of feeling like I don't think like "normal people" and I hoping my feelings of lonliness will subside! I get really down and a lot of times for no reason so I'm going to give it a try. If I feel sick, I feel sick, it is worth it. I just hope I don't have to call off work, not an option! :) Sooooo... I'll let you guys know how I do, wish me luck! (I get anxiety just thinking about starting, guess part of the problem to solve! :) ) >
> >
>
> ... i want to suggest/ advise that you try to get your doctor to allow you some benzo support for your anxieties, for _while_ you are working through the lexapro start up SEs ...
> ... my impression (i do not have anxiety issues) from reading this thread, is that folks who are fighting anxiety can and do have the worst time with these intial lex SEs ... of the folks who start lexapro but have to quit, many of them have anxiety issues and can not endure the increased anxiety from lex's initial SEs ... ... because lex does seem to make anxiety worse before it gets better .. .... .. not so surprising when you consider (my speculation here) lex is trying to rearrange our neurochemistry which gets destabilized as our system struggles to adapt to out new (and Improved!) serotonin levels ...
>
> ... i mention this because, although i had no anxiety symptoms, my lexapro adaptation SEs included a dozen or so panic attack episodes ... ... which is to say lexapro Can get us wound up pretty good before things settle down ...
>
> i was fortunate that all of my SEs lasted less than 2 weeks ... and i am doing fine now, these nearly 6 months since i started lex ...
>
> ... it seems like the regular treatment for anxiety is a supplement to the lex from the benzo family, such as xanax ...
>
> ... ... you know, i got this friend Wayne (BLKVETTES) and he has the inside line on anxiety ... ...we're going to want to give him a shout and let you have the benefit of his experience ... he's our anxiety/lexapro poster child ... (And he's the funny one! ... Not me!)
>
> HA!
>
> take care!!
> ~ jim
>
>Thanks for your advice! I definitely should get in touch with your buddy! :) I have taken Xanax for my attacks but haven't had any full blown anxiety attacks for over 2 yrs. now. It's more like a nervous tension I deal with. Usually I drink a tea I have that helps me sleep, relaxes me so I guess I have that to fall back on. That's usually why I quit other meds before because of the bad attacks I would have. Panic attacks are the worst and I wouldn't wish them on anybody! Thanks for the warning, I'm going to ask my doc about Xanax since I don't have any and definitely am going to keep a supply of my tea around! :)
Posted by lil' jimi on August 28, 2003, at 15:45:46
In reply to re: New User, posted by shay on August 28, 2003, at 15:29:41
hi again Shay,
> > hi Shay,
> >
> > > You guys are so nice! :) I really appreciate all of the feedback! I definitely want to give this a try and don't want to feel like I do anymore. I'm tired of feeling like I don't think like "normal people" and I hoping my feelings of lonliness will subside! I get really down and a lot of times for no reason so I'm going to give it a try. If I feel sick, I feel sick, it is worth it. I just hope I don't have to call off work, not an option! :) Sooooo... I'll let you guys know how I do, wish me luck! (I get anxiety just thinking about starting, guess part of the problem to solve! :) ) >
> > >
> >
> > ... i want to suggest/ advise that you try to get your doctor to allow you some benzo support for your anxieties, for _while_ you are working through the lexapro start up SEs ...
> > ... my impression (i do not have anxiety issues) from reading this thread, is that folks who are fighting anxiety can and do have the worst time with these intial lex SEs ... of the folks who start lexapro but have to quit, many of them have anxiety issues and can not endure the increased anxiety from lex's initial SEs ... ... because lex does seem to make anxiety worse before it gets better .. .... .. not so surprising when you consider (my speculation here) lex is trying to rearrange our neurochemistry which gets destabilized as our system struggles to adapt to out new (and Improved!) serotonin levels ...
> >
> > ... i mention this because, although i had no anxiety symptoms, my lexapro adaptation SEs included a dozen or so panic attack episodes ... ... which is to say lexapro Can get us wound up pretty good before things settle down ...
> >
> > i was fortunate that all of my SEs lasted less than 2 weeks ... and i am doing fine now, these nearly 6 months since i started lex ...
> >
> > ... it seems like the regular treatment for anxiety is a supplement to the lex from the benzo family, such as xanax ...
> >
> > ... ... you know, i got this friend Wayne (BLKVETTES) and he has the inside line on anxiety ... ...we're going to want to give him a shout and let you have the benefit of his experience ... he's our anxiety/lexapro poster child ... (And he's the funny one! ... Not me!)
> >
> > HA!
> >
> > take care!!
> > ~ jim
> >
> >
>
> Thanks for your advice! I definitely should get in touch with your buddy! :) I have taken Xanax for my attacks but haven't had any full blown anxiety attacks for over 2 yrs. now. It's more like a nervous tension I deal with. Usually I drink a tea I have that helps me sleep, relaxes me so I guess I have that to fall back on. That's usually why I quit other meds before because of the bad attacks I would have. Panic attacks are the worst and I wouldn't wish them on anybody! Thanks for the warning, I'm going to ask my doc about Xanax since I don't have any and definitely am going to keep a supply of my tea around! :)
>Wayne posts here just about everyday as "BLKVETTES"... ... which how we got to be friends ... but he is probably busy at the other boards he visits ... ...
.... .... anyway, there are 2 ways to access his insights:
1) click on the link by ggrrl from june of 2002 that's at the top of the lex links ... this will load the whole lex thread to your browser's window ... then look for "blkvettes"'s posts ... they'll be in the last 6 months ...
OR
2) post to Wayne here ... which is how i'm about to give him a "shout" for us ... ... ... like now~ jim
Posted by galkeepinon on August 28, 2003, at 15:47:58
In reply to New User to any type of med., posted by shay on August 28, 2003, at 12:41:33
Hi shay, You need to find a doctor that will listen to you!!!! I'm so glad you got a lot of replies to your post so far:-) Sometimes, at first, especially if you have never taken medications for depression, they can make you feel 'weird' or 'sick' or just plain 'blah'. I took my first antidepressant in 1995. (Prozac) *You say that sometimes your depression is sometimes bad and sometimes it's not*-there could be many reasons for that-PMS LOL, simple, normal mood swings, or if you want an infamous label-bipolar 1 or 2-but a doctor, of course, would be the best one to make that diagnosis.
Medications don't usually change one's personality-in my opinion. I was told this by all my doctors and I have experienced it. Through all the meds I have been on-and that's pretty much all of them!, my personality has never changed. What has changed though, is like you said, I've gotten side effects, some good and some not so good. The not so good ones can always be dealt with or coped with-usually. When I first started on medication, I started on a low dose of meds in conjunction with therapy-good idea. But only you can decide what's best for you.
***You need to find a doctor that will listen to you-I should have put this first, I just did :-)
You may not have to be on a medication for the rest of your life' either, it may be that you need it to get you through whatever it is you are going through that is causing you these feelings right now in your life.
Please keep us posted and I wish you the best!> I have never been on any medications for depression but feel like I've had some level of depression pretty much since I was a little girl. I've tried some for a few days but couldn't stand how they made me feel. I don't feel like I have major depression so I'm always leary of starting something because of side effects, I don't want to feel worse, since I've also dealt with anxiety. I read some of these posts and wonder if it's even worth getting into taking Lexapro, which I got samples of yesterday. The doc told me to break in half and take 5mg. I'm worried though because I do drink socially and don't want to feel all "wacked out" and "weird." Like I said, no one would even think of me as depressed but I am sometimes. And sometimes it's really bad and sometimes not. I never not do anything or not go anywhere and work a 9-5 so what should I do... I feel like I read these posts and I want to read something like "Lexapro makes me feel great, I'm so happy now, it definitely worked so well!!!!!!" And I'm not reading this, am I going to feel happy and normal or what??? Any suggestions or help... I don't want to be on something for the rest of my life and feel worse. I already feel tired and sad sometimes, w/o feeling sick and weird. Anyone???? Also, I haven't had counseling but wonder if this is more what I should do or if this low dose will be ok for me??? The docs never listen to my symptoms so I don't know who to ask for advice. You all seem to know best! :) Thanks!
Posted by lil' jimi on August 28, 2003, at 15:53:19
In reply to New User to any type of med., posted by shay on August 28, 2003, at 12:41:33
hi Wayne,
Shay needs the low down on anxiety, for lex users ....
please, Sir!(Wayne's the funny One!)
~ jim>>>>>>
> I have never been on any medications for depression but feel like I've had some level of depression pretty much since I was a little girl. I've tried some for a few days but couldn't stand how they made me feel. I don't feel like I have major depression so I'm always leary of starting something because of side effects, I don't want to feel worse, since I've also dealt with anxiety. I read some of these posts and wonder if it's even worth getting into taking Lexapro, which I got samples of yesterday. The doc told me to break in half and take 5mg. I'm worried though because I do drink socially and don't want to feel all "wacked out" and "weird." Like I said, no one would even think of me as depressed but I am sometimes. And sometimes it's really bad and sometimes not. I never not do anything or not go anywhere and work a 9-5 so what should I do... I feel like I read these posts and I want to read something like "Lexapro makes me feel great, I'm so happy now, it definitely worked so well!!!!!!" And I'm not reading this, am I going to feel happy and normal or what??? Any suggestions or help... I don't want to be on something for the rest of my life and feel worse. I already feel tired and sad sometimes, w/o feeling sick and weird. Anyone???? Also, I haven't had counseling but wonder if this is more what I should do or if this low dose will be ok for me??? The docs never listen to my symptoms so I don't know who to ask for advice. You all seem to know best! :) Thanks!
>>>>>
Posted by galkeepinon on August 28, 2003, at 15:53:31
In reply to Re: New User to any type of med., posted by shay on August 28, 2003, at 14:04:13
Posted by galkeepinon on August 28, 2003, at 15:56:40
In reply to Re: New User to any type of med., posted by Esmarelda on August 28, 2003, at 14:55:43
>>>>In fact, just got back from my therapist and really didn't even have anything to talk to her about. Yee ha!!!!<<<<
Esmarelda!!! Isn't that a good sign? :-):-)
I'm glad to hear you sound like you're doing good!
Take Care!
Shay - I think you will be fine. I have been intermittantly depressed for about 4-5 years now with no real event setting it off. Just didn't feel like facing the world some days. I never liked the thought of taking medicine. But, this last go around had life events that literally threw me to the ground, shook me around and then kicked my butt. I had to do something -- I could not even get out of bed 2-3 days a week and cried all the time. Not to mention the anxiety/panic attacks. I could barely even get out of bed to let my dogs out. I feel "almost normal" now after 10 weeks. I never had to call in sick from side effects - just the overwhelming depression, itself. I think you will be fine if Lex is something your body likes. I am doing great on it. In fact, just got back from my therapist and really didn't even have anything to talk to her about. Yee ha!!!!
Posted by Esmarelda on August 28, 2003, at 16:03:35
In reply to Re: New User to any type of med. » Esmarelda, posted by galkeepinon on August 28, 2003, at 15:56:40
Thanks to you Gal, and all the other posters, for the wonderful information. I think part of it is truly realizing that you are not in this alone and there are others (unfortunately) who feel the same way you do. I always felt I should just be able to snap out of it. IT DON'T WORK THAT WAY, huh?
Posted by galkeepinon on August 28, 2003, at 16:25:34
In reply to Re: New User to any type of med., posted by Esmarelda on August 28, 2003, at 16:03:35
And thanks to you:-) I'm so glad we're not alone in this-it helps us ALL so much! yes.
Nope-we can't just snap out of it-despite what people who don't walk in our shoes think. ;)
I wish it were that easy though..................
> Thanks to you Gal, and all the other posters, for the wonderful information. I think part of it is truly realizing that you are not in this alone and there are others (unfortunately) who feel the same way you do. I always felt I should just be able to snap out of it. IT DON'T WORK THAT WAY, huh?
Posted by lil' jimi on August 28, 2003, at 16:25:45
In reply to Re: New User to any type of med., posted by koko on August 28, 2003, at 13:50:19
hi Koko!
now you wrote:
> This brought up a really good point...One of the other reasons that I decided to switch to Lex is because I heard that the sexual SE's were reportedly less than with Celexa. Has anyone else experienced any sexual side effects from Lex, positive or negitive?
>now i have never had celexa (nor any t'other ADs), so i don't know about them and i haven't read enough posts about celexa's SEs to shake a stick at ... ...
...
... however, you asked about lex sex SEs ... (you asked, okay?) ... (you're friend ~jim thinks everyone's sick from hearing me post about this ... so my old posts may amuse you (?))... anyway, i have had both negative and positive effects from lexapro ...
first the negative:
maybe 5 or 6 days of anorgasmia (inability to orgasm) ... these were like days 2 through 7 ... (or maybe 3 through 9?) ... anyway, very very early on ... and it went away completely ...
which bring us to ...the positive:
... once i recovered from the anorgasmia ... things got ... better ... a lot better ... a whole lot better ...understand that to begin with i had experienced NO problems ... no problems with libido; no erectile dysfunction; and i had never imagined anorgasmia before ....
... and now everything is as good as it ever was ... except my orgasmic response has been improved ... ... a LOT ... dramatically ... much better
... ... when i had never imagined it Could be "better" ... ... but it is like a new experience now ... way different ...... you had to ask ... ( !! ) ... but my experience is not typical ... ... ... i have asked for lex users' feedback about this and i have found only a few who had negative responses and many of them were also on other meds ... and i found a few who had positive responses as well .. ....
that's my story ...
TAKE CARE!!
~ jim
Posted by koko on August 28, 2003, at 16:40:56
In reply to re: New User(s) re: sexual SEs » koko, posted by lil' jimi on August 28, 2003, at 16:25:45
Posted by lil' jimi on August 28, 2003, at 17:05:44
In reply to Re: New User to any type of med., posted by Esmarelda on August 28, 2003, at 16:03:35
hi Esmarelda,
> Thanks to you Gal, and all the other posters, for the wonderful information. I think part of it is truly realizing that you are not in this alone and there are others (unfortunately) who feel the same way you do. I always felt I should just be able to snap out of it. IT DON'T WORK THAT WAY, huh? >
>no they do not work that way ... you Are so right!
it is like we could stomp and shout at our neurotransmitters all day and night and night and day
... ... but they do they Listen ??
NO!... but if our neurotransmitters want our attention?
... all they have to do is just whisper
... just once
... and we are on the floor crying our guts out and praying for mercy!when neurotransmitters talk, every Body listens
... ... and neurotransmitter don't 'talk'
... they swear !peace,
~ jim
Posted by Esmarelda on August 28, 2003, at 17:10:26
In reply to re: New User » Esmarelda, posted by lil' jimi on August 28, 2003, at 17:05:44
Love, Peace and Happiness to you, Jim!
I think your funny! LOL
Posted by lil' jimi on August 28, 2003, at 20:11:33
In reply to re: New Userjim, posted by Esmarelda on August 28, 2003, at 17:10:26
Posted by trucker on August 28, 2003, at 20:20:46
In reply to Re: koko !---catching up..I got lost in the thread, posted by koko on August 28, 2003, at 9:20:57
SEE IF YOU CAN TAKE IT AT NIGHT FOR THE FIRST MONTH OR SO, THAT WAY THE SIDE EFFECTS OCCUR WHILE YOU ARE SLEEPING AND YOU DON'T REALIZE THEM AS MUCH. THIS IS WHAT I DID FOR A MONTH AND IT WORKED WELL FOR ME!!!
TAKE IT EASY
TRUCKER
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////> Thanks Gal! That really helps. And you are right, I get so caught up focusing on the SE's that I may be making them worse than they would be otherwise. But this forum helps, and reading about everyone's experiances help. And most of all, knowing that everyone else seems to have experienced this or some SE's simular to this and lived!...that helps too.
> So, I'll keep reading and hope that they get better soon. Today is day 4! So far, I've stuck to taking the full 10mg. I'll keep you posted...
> Thanks again and I wish everyone a happy and productive Thursday!
>
Posted by trucker on August 28, 2003, at 20:34:52
In reply to New User to any type of med., posted by shay on August 28, 2003, at 12:41:33
I WOULD LOOK FOR A COUSELOR AT YOUR COUNTY MENTAL HEALTH, THEY WORK ON A SLIDING SCALE SOME OTHER PLACES DO TOO BUT THIS SEEMS TO BE THE EASIEST TO ACCESS. THE MEDS AND THE COUSELING GO HAND IN HAND,******PLUS ITS LIKE GOING TO A FOOT DOCTOR FOR A HEART PROBLEM***** WHEN YOU HAVE DEPRESSION, ANXIETY, BY-POLAR, ETC. COUNSELORS ARE SPECALISTS IN THE DEPARTMENT FOR DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY ETC... SO DON'T GO TO A GENERAL PRACTITIONER FOR DEPRESSION. HE IS A JACK OF ALL TRADES MASTER OF NONE. TAKE IT AT NIGHT IF YOU CAN. ANY AND ALL SIDE EFFECTS OCCUR A COUPLE HOURS AFFTER TAKING IT. WHILE YOU ARE ASLEEP YOU WON'T NOTICE THEM AS MUCH.
DON'T LET THESE POSTS SCARE YOU. I FEEL TERRIFIC ON 20 MG OF LEXAPRO, I HAVE A SEXUAL HUNGER OF MY YOUNGER YEARS, AND I AM IN CONTROL OF MY LIFE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A LONG TIME. I LIKE IT BETTER THAN ZOLOFT, AND WELBUTRIN. FIRST COUPLE WEEKS YOU ARE ADJUSTING TO IT. HANG IN THERE, YOU WILL LIKE IT.
TAKE IT EASY
TRUCKER//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////> I have never been on any medications for depression but feel like I've had some level of depression pretty much since I was a little girl. I've tried some for a few days but couldn't stand how they made me feel. I don't feel like I have major depression so I'm always leary of starting something because of side effects, I don't want to feel worse, since I've also dealt with anxiety. I read some of these posts and wonder if it's even worth getting into taking Lexapro, which I got samples of yesterday. The doc told me to break in half and take 5mg. I'm worried though because I do drink socially and don't want to feel all "wacked out" and "weird." Like I said, no one would even think of me as depressed but I am sometimes. And sometimes it's really bad and sometimes not. I never not do anything or not go anywhere and work a 9-5 so what should I do... I feel like I read these posts and I want to read something like "Lexapro makes me feel great, I'm so happy now, it definitely worked so well!!!!!!" And I'm not reading this, am I going to feel happy and normal or what??? Any suggestions or help... I don't want to be on something for the rest of my life and feel worse. I already feel tired and sad sometimes, w/o feeling sick and weird. Anyone???? Also, I haven't had counseling but wonder if this is more what I should do or if this low dose will be ok for me??? The docs never listen to my symptoms so I don't know who to ask for advice. You all seem to know best! :) Thanks!
Posted by trucker on August 28, 2003, at 20:43:14
In reply to Re: New User to any type of med., posted by koko on August 28, 2003, at 13:50:19
YES IT WOKE UP AND STARTED SCREAMING FEED ME AND THE OTHER HALF IS STILL ON THE MODE I WAS ON BEFORE. HE THINKS ITS TO GOOD TO BE TRUE.
TRUCKER
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////> This brought up a really good point...One of the other reasons that I decided to switch to Lex is because I heard that the sexual SE's were reportedly less than with Celexa. Has anyone else experienced any sexual side effects from Lex, positive or negitive?
>
Posted by BLKVETTES on August 28, 2003, at 20:46:42
In reply to New User to any type of med., posted by shay on August 28, 2003, at 12:41:33
Hi Shay, first of all happy lexapro users are not going to wake up and decide to search for this board. Anyone who comes to any kind of board like this is hurting in some way. When they get here they either get better and leave, or they change meds and leave or maybe they just give up and leave. Ive been coming to this board for 6 or 7 months. Why do I stay, I have my reasons!!! When I got here I was suicidal, housebound, afraid to be alone, could not drive, I was shaking, I had tremors, muscle pain, muscle spasms, I cried at one point 70 days in a row. I could keep going, I suffered from panic, anxiety and depression. Lexapro was my 3rd med and I really did not want to take it. I started at 5mg and went down to 2.5mg and then back up to 5mg. You start at what makes you comfortable. Does not matter how fast you get there as long as you get there and thats my opinion. Since you posted I think you have seen some happy stories from others. To me my recovery is a miracle!!!!!!! Lexapro wiped out my panic, my anxiety and my depression. My problem now is just moving on and trying to forget those memories of the hell I lived through. I probably go to way to many boards. Im beginning to wonder if this is good or bad because it keeps my memories alive like it was yesterday. You came to this board for a reason. I think that reason was because you dont like the way you feel. Can lexapro make you better, the answer is yes!!! Is it the right med for you, no one knows!!! You have nothing to lose by trying!!! Doesnt work you try something else or live like you have!! I wish you luck!!!!!!!! TAKE CARE!!!!!!!
WAYNE
Posted by hog80ci on August 28, 2003, at 20:47:33
In reply to re: Lexapro - increased dose » hog80ci, posted by lil' jimi on August 28, 2003, at 5:48:07
Thanks for the support , Jim. I wasn't so sick to my stomach. So, if the physical stuff is getting better, does that the mean the mental health should start improving too? Still feel pretty cranked up.
The Harley's great...you caught that did you?? lol I love the bike.
Jim
> hey Jim ~
>
>
> > Hi all
> > I go up to 20mg tomorrow. I've been pretty jittery on 10. I keep telling myself to be patient and not to flush it all down the toilet. Reading your posts always helps. thank you.
> > Jim
>
> just wanted to say ...
> Hang In There, pardner!!
>
> take care,
> ~ jim
>
> p.s. how's the Harley doing, man ?
> Good luck with the 20 !
Posted by theump on August 28, 2003, at 20:53:01
In reply to New User to any type of med., posted by shay on August 28, 2003, at 12:41:33
Your story sounds VERY similar to mine. I haven't read all the posts between your original and this one but I wanted to say that I had the same reservations you did. I felt like the Zoloft commercial and told my primary care physician just that. He recommended Lexapro. A couple friends of mine had started anti-depressants recently also and I figured if they could admit to it and do it, so could I. So I talked to my doctor and he put me on Lex and that afternoon I took my first 10mg dose without any knowledge of what the side effects could be. Then I found this site and realized I might have a long haul before feeling better.
Well, about 3 months later I'm still on Lex and gradually going up to 20mg. I'm at 15mg now. I've been very lucky with side effects and do still drink socially every so often. I've never felt "wacked out" or "weird".
I was tired and unmotivated going into Lex. I can say I got over some of the tiredness but now that I just went up in does it's back. At least for now. I however am feeling more motivated than I have in a number of years. Fluke or fact from Lex I'm not sure, but I'm not going to complain. I also work 8+ hours a day and still go and do things although like I said the motivation to do what should be done instead of only what had to be done had waned.
I have not talked to a counselor either. My doctor mentioned that if I still don't feel like Lex is making a difference for me that he'll refer me to a psyciatrist to help me figure it all out. I'm currently dealing with the end of a 5 year relationship and someone at work quitting and having a lot more stressful time there. I have also started exercising again, thanks to a knee problem, and that may be helping also.
I'm still not sure if Lex is making a difference or if my attitude has changed. But it hasn't been a bad choice for me. I'm one of the lucky ones as far as side effects and as I said I'm just now moving up my dose and feeling a difference. My doc wants me up to 20 and I have about a month to get there to see if it makes a difference.
Whatever your decision, I've found that letting others know what your going through is a great form of support.
Renee
> I have never been on any medications for depression but feel like I've had some level of depression pretty much since I was a little girl. I've tried some for a few days but couldn't stand how they made me feel. I don't feel like I have major depression so I'm always leary of starting something because of side effects, I don't want to feel worse, since I've also dealt with anxiety. I read some of these posts and wonder if it's even worth getting into taking Lexapro, which I got samples of yesterday. The doc told me to break in half and take 5mg. I'm worried though because I do drink socially and don't want to feel all "wacked out" and "weird." Like I said, no one would even think of me as depressed but I am sometimes. And sometimes it's really bad and sometimes not. I never not do anything or not go anywhere and work a 9-5 so what should I do... I feel like I read these posts and I want to read something like "Lexapro makes me feel great, I'm so happy now, it definitely worked so well!!!!!!" And I'm not reading this, am I going to feel happy and normal or what??? Any suggestions or help... I don't want to be on something for the rest of my life and feel worse. I already feel tired and sad sometimes, w/o feeling sick and weird. Anyone???? Also, I haven't had counseling but wonder if this is more what I should do or if this low dose will be ok for me??? The docs never listen to my symptoms so I don't know who to ask for advice. You all seem to know best! :) Thanks!
Posted by trucker on August 28, 2003, at 21:09:44
In reply to SHAY AND LEXAPRO, posted by BLKVETTES on August 28, 2003, at 20:46:42
wayne
i missed your post on the memories. can you share or not? i was always told once sharesd twice devided. meaning if you talk about it. it is a healing process, share and those who aren't to close to the forest to see the tree can some times shed light into a dark and dreary area of ones life. and in which case also understand and maybe have suggestions. if you can share please do... if you would like to keep it between me and you, e-mail me.
[email protected]
in any case take it easy!
trucker
>///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Hi Shay, first of all happy lexapro users are not going to wake up and decide to search for this board. Anyone who comes to any kind of board like this is hurting in some way. When they get here they either get better and leave, or they change meds and leave or maybe they just give up and leave. Ive been coming to this board for 6 or 7 months. Why do I stay, I have my reasons!!! When I got here I was suicidal, housebound, afraid to be alone, could not drive, I was shaking, I had tremors, muscle pain, muscle spasms, I cried at one point 70 days in a row. I could keep going, I suffered from panic, anxiety and depression. Lexapro was my 3rd med and I really did not want to take it. I started at 5mg and went down to 2.5mg and then back up to 5mg. You start at what makes you comfortable. Does not matter how fast you get there as long as you get there and thats my opinion. Since you posted I think you have seen some happy stories from others. To me my recovery is a miracle!!!!!!! Lexapro wiped out my panic, my anxiety and my depression. My problem now is just moving on and trying to forget those memories of the hell I lived through. I probably go to way to many boards. Im beginning to wonder if this is good or bad because it keeps my memories alive like it was yesterday. You came to this board for a reason. I think that reason was because you dont like the way you feel. Can lexapro make you better, the answer is yes!!! Is it the right med for you, no one knows!!! You have nothing to lose by trying!!! Doesnt work you try something else or live like you have!! I wish you luck!!!!!!!! TAKE CARE!!!!!!!
> WAYNE
Posted by lil' jimi on August 29, 2003, at 1:00:35
In reply to re: Lexapro - increased dose, posted by hog80ci on August 28, 2003, at 20:47:33
> Thanks for the support , Jim. >
you're welcome ... everyone benefits ... reading this thread got me through my SEs ... ...
> I wasn't so sick to my stomach. So, if the physical stuff is getting better, does that the mean the mental health should start improving too? Still feel pretty cranked up. >
>i read of some who have had benefits from the first dose, and had that to sustain them through the SE stage ... pretty rare i'd say ... ... i remember being hacked that i'd made it through the SEs, but i wasn't really feeling any different ... ... i'd guess that most have a significant lag between end of SEs and beginning of benefical effects ... typically a week or more ... ... i guess i was on lex for more than a month before i began to feel therapeutic benefits and for two months before i was sure i was getting relief ... but i think i was slower than usual ...
>
> The Harley's great...you caught that did you?? lol I love the bike. >helps fight depression, it's an antidepressant ... ... 80 cubic inches plus 20 milligrams sounds like a therapeutic combo to me
... ... kind of support for the neurotransmitters i could use ...you might consider taking your 20mg when you could sleep through some of the SEs ...
... ... might want to look for some calming agents for the jitters ... do a web search or hit up the folks in the herbal section of the health food store maybe ... .. i've read valerian helps some people ... ... omega-3 oils and niacinamide (sp?) should help ... get LOTS of water ... exercise ... ... cut down on the coffee for a while maybe ...SEs are mother nature's way of telling us the meds are on the way ... ... _Sometimes_ she can be a real bitch about it, man!
... ... (but i can't complain, i got off light) ...
... hang in ...
and
let us hear from you ...
take care,
~ jim>
> Jim
>
> > hey Jim ~
> >
> >
> > > Hi all
> > > I go up to 20mg tomorrow. I've been pretty jittery on 10. I keep telling myself to be patient and not to flush it all down the toilet. Reading your posts always helps. thank you.
> > > Jim
> >
> > just wanted to say ...
> > Hang In There, pardner!!
> >
> > take care,
> > ~ jim
> >
> > p.s. how's the Harley doing, man ?
> > Good luck with the 20 !
>
>
Posted by galkeepinon on August 29, 2003, at 1:10:44
In reply to Re: New User to any type of med., posted by koko on August 28, 2003, at 13:50:19
no difference here.
> This brought up a really good point...One of the other reasons that I decided to switch to Lex is because I heard that the sexual SE's were reportedly less than with Celexa. Has anyone else experienced any sexual side effects from Lex, positive or negitive?
>
Posted by BLKVETTES on August 29, 2003, at 1:17:13
In reply to Re: SHAY AND LEXAPRO » BLKVETTES, posted by trucker on August 28, 2003, at 21:09:44
Hi trucker, my memories are the pain I went through in the last year. I was never depressed until the last year. All the hospital visits, all the tests, all the fear, all the pain. Thoughts of dying and wanting to die are not going away anytime soon!!!!!!!!!!!! This is why some call me the clown man!!!!!!!!!!
The Man With The Clowns Eyes
Do you ever wonder about clowns. They look so sad!!!! They look like tears are flowing from their eyes. But they seem happy and act happy. But they look so sad!!! I want to tell you about the man with the clowns eyes. He really has been happy all his life. He really cant complain about the way he was raised. But things went wrong and he does not know why or how. One morning he was sitting on the edge of his bed waiting for his wife and daughter to leave for the day. He was very sad but hid this from his little girl. Well the time came for them to leave and he wished them a good day and kissed his daughter good bye. He then went back to his room and sat on the edge of the bed staring at a tv with no sound. He did this everyday, he did not eat, he could not sleep and the pain in his aching body was unbearable. As he sat there tears began to flow from his eyes. He did this everyday and saw no reason to live. He felt he was a burden to all. He thought of many ways to end his life. Why was the man with the clown eyes so sad. He began to recall his childhood. His parents were divorced when he was very young. But his dad was always there and was a good father. But he missed his father because he was no longer there everyday. He had a great mother who sacrificed to make his life a happy one. So it could not be his childhood. He became a teenager, he had lots of friends, the girls were attracted to him. He was very popular!!!!! So it could not be because of his teenage years. He got married very young and had kids that he loved very much. There was a time when he did drugs that nearly destroyed his family and himself. He sought help and quit the drugs and became his old self again. Years went by and the man with the clowns eyes was really very happy. He had everything a person ever dreams of in life. But one day this all came to an end. He no longer cared how he looked. He quit eating, he could not sleep and was very depressed. He lost interest in all that made him happy. So now the man with the clowns eyes just sits in his room with fear as the tears flow from his eyes and down his cheeks. He went from doctor to doctor and no one could make him feel happy again. All hope was gone, but he looked at the picture of his daughter that was next to the bed. This always made him cry harder and his body shake and tremor. He could not end his life!!!! Even though he no longer wanted to live he could not do this to his family. This was the low point for the man with the clowns eyes. Everyday he sat there and cried never wanting to leave his room. I wonder if the man with the clowns eyes will be ok. Will he always be sad!!!! Will he be happy!!!! Will he live or die!!!! I really cant say!!!! But as I look in the mirror at the man with the clowns eyes. Tears begin to flow from my eyes and down my cheeks. I get the feeling he will be ok. I get the feeling he will be happy again. Well we can only hope that this is true!!!!
THE END
Posted by galkeepinon on August 29, 2003, at 1:30:55
In reply to SHAY AND LEXAPRO, posted by BLKVETTES on August 28, 2003, at 20:46:42
Posted by Esmarelda on August 29, 2003, at 12:43:46
In reply to Re: SHAY AND LEXAPRO, posted by BLKVETTES on August 29, 2003, at 1:17:13
Thanks for sharing that with all of us. I think we can all feel or have felt your pain. I was never suicidal, but the pain was the same. I have lived a blessed life as well and have everything a person could ask for, good family, great friends, nice doggies, beautiful home, boat, cars, etc. I don't know what ever started my first depressive episode -- just stress of life, I guess. This last go around was the worst -- lost my grandmother who was my rock, anchor and world! I was luckey to have someone like her, but when she left, I was left with a shaken up world and huge hole in my heart. Then, the boyfriend apparently was not getting enough attention and couldn't handle my depression and he bailed 3weeks later. Then, ... Well, you know the story. I still have a hole in my heart, but the world sure seems to be treating me better since I started on Lex. For anyone who reads this, I truly believe it is a wonder drug. Throughout the years, I had tried others and none made me feel this good or got rid of the occasional depression. I am tired alot in the mornings, but no more depression or anxiety. I'll take the trade or any of the SE's any darn day. BTW - Jim says you're the funny one. I don't know, but you guys both sure are good ones and I appreciate all the posts I have read from you. I read the posts for about a month before I ever posted myself. This has helped as much as my therapist. Take Care, Dude!
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