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Posted by napaba on March 3, 2003, at 9:24:07
In reply to Re: twitching/tremors on Effexor?, posted by lovemybabies on March 3, 2003, at 9:16:20
>I agree. This board is great. It really helped me when I first started on Effexor and it continues to help now seeing others triumphs and accomplishments. It also helps to encourage those of us who have trouble with selfconfendence build ours up with our imput.
Yeah, you know sometimes this is SO easier said than done. I'm thinking of volunteering somewhere. I think helping people(or animals!) would be rewarding and also great 'therapy.' There are plenty of shelters, adult day-care, SPCA, etc. that would welcome any help. It's hard to find time with two little kids but I think it would be worth it. I think it's time for me to start DOING something to improve my situation and not just THINKING about it, you know?
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> This board is so awesome. I feel like it's our own little support group! :)
Posted by KrissyP on March 3, 2003, at 15:37:36
In reply to Re: twitching/tremors on Effexor?, posted by napaba on March 3, 2003, at 8:25:26
Hey there. I'm 32. I was thinking along these same lines-you speak of. The biggest thing that keeps me busy and less depressed is the 2 courses I took this term. Next term I am taking 3 until I finish up the the 28 that I have left to finally get my BA in Psych and Health. It has taken me a while and I came to the conclusion that timing isn't everything-different strokes for different folks. That was hard for me. I kept saying "why aren't I done yet, and in a good career-working?" The fact of the matter is, I was faced with a lot of sad stuff-that I didn't know how to handle at the time-and I STILL am working on it. I have had some of the greatest (I think) therapists who have worked with me a lot-CBT being one of them. I could no longer keep going to shrinks who opened a can of worms about a molestation/rape (I'm still not sure what to cal it:-(--that happened at 7-by a stranger. I know it has affected me-but not terribly. It was an unfortunate thing that happened. When you said, "All that extra analizing is great"-I like to think that too. We choose how to use it-to be productive or to worry ourselves sick.
Thanks for such a great post.
All the best to you GO Get Em:-)
Kristen
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I don't know how old the two of you are, but I'm almost 42 and have had problems with depression and anxiety as long as I can remember. I have three wonderful children, who really keep me going and are the reason I finally got help. I work full-time and have gone back to school. For me it actually helps. All that extra analizing is great. I have 3.89 grade point average. I have six classes left and then I'm contemplating law school. I started with one class, one I knew a lot about so I could work my way back into the school and study thing. I also went to a college that offers accelerated classes. The classes are
usually filled with adults between 30-50 years old, so there is a lot of talk, not all lecture. I would recomemded taking a class. If your not comfortable you've only committed yourself to one class, but on the up side you'll meet new people and may really like it.
Good luck to you in what ever you decide.
Posted by KrissyP on March 3, 2003, at 16:01:13
In reply to Re: twitching/tremors on Effexor?, posted by lovemybabies on March 3, 2003, at 9:16:20
Yep-it IS our own little support group and I am so thankful for it:-)
I think it's time for me to start DOING something to improve my situation and not just THINKING about it too- I hear ya here, you know?
Good luck to you and All the best,
Kristen
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Yeah, you know sometimes this is SO easier said than done. I'm thinking of volunteering somewhere. I think helping people(or animals!) would be rewarding and also great 'therapy.' There are plenty of shelters, adult day-care, SPCA, etc. that would welcome any help. It's hard to find time with two little kids but I think it would be worth it. I think it's time for me to start DOING something to improve my situation and not just THINKING about it, you know?This board is so awesome. I feel like it's our own little support group! :)
Posted by RealTim on March 3, 2003, at 19:18:15
In reply to Withdrawal - revisit of my earlier side effects, posted by sly on March 3, 2003, at 8:15:18
> Hi Everyone,
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> I was on 75 mgs for about 11 months, went to 37.5 for 3 weeks and now I've been off for about one week. The side effects are minimal but I seem to be rapidly cycling through all my earlier side effects when I first went on the medication.
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> I'm having insomnia, this is the worst, I haven't slept for about 3 weeks, I got to bed at 10pm (no exercise, no caffeine etc. for 4 hours before bed) and I usually wake up around 1 or 2am and can't fall back asleep. I'm having night sweats again, and sometimes during the day I can actually feel my body temp rising. My sex drive is fine, but I'm inorgasmic again.
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> This is very frustrating to me, I have no dizziness or headaches, but I'm being revisited by all my worst symptoms of the past. Anyone else had this happen?
Very interesting. When I go off Effexor I di not experience the effects I had when I first went on it (sexual dysfunction and yawns)Didn't I read some posts that you can mitigate the withdrawal effects by tapering and supplementing with other things? Benadryl, Prozac 10mg, etc?
I tried to quit my 150mg daily morning doses after @ 6 months this weekend. Didn't fly. As I posted above, the dizzy light headedness set in. I tried to sleep Saturday night and literally what a nightmare! Went to bed and barely slept more than 3 hours, woke up constantly from troubling nightmares. Things like hearing intruders in the house to having a heart attack to the kids being in danger. No happy dreams.
The "sea sickness" was so bad the next day, i took a half a dose and gradually got better.
I took another half dose today and will see if I can taper off further.
I hate being dependent on a pricey drug that no one truly knows the long term effects of. Liver damage? I hope not.
Is there a database where you can enter the drugs you've tried and the side effects and they track patterns? It seems that these studies they do are so limited in size.
For example, I took Celexa and had immediate skin rashes and intense yawning and sexual side effects. Wellbutrin had almost zero side effects. If I entered that data, maybe someone could tell that based on my profile Effexor or some other drug would likely have "X" side effects.
Surely someone has thought of this? There must be patterns. I would be willing to enter all my personal info: age, health history, weight etc.
I work at an insurance company. I can do "data mining" to find out how many people have been in accidents of over 5mph after 5pm with 5 or less people in their car in the 5th month of 1995...why can't we create patient feedback databases that track drug interactions. Think of the fascinating things we could find out.
Sorry for the rambling. I will report in coming weeks how the cessation of medication progresses...
Posted by lovemybabies on March 4, 2003, at 7:01:24
In reply to Re: Withdrawal - revisit of my earlier side effects, posted by RealTim on March 3, 2003, at 19:18:15
Awesome idea. But I bet those pharmaceutical companies have pretty powerful lobbies against anything negative about their drugs. Do I sound paranoid?
Posted by millie on March 5, 2003, at 11:01:01
In reply to Re: Weight gain! Dizziness! Help!, posted by starlight on February 25, 2003, at 18:19:53
Starlight - tell me a little more about those medicines you mentioned that you take now. I tried Wellbutrin, but that made me a mean, nasty person. Thank God the side effects from withdrawal from Effexor are FINALLY over, but the weight is not coming off. The Atkins diet is not good for people who don't have very strong kidneys, so that knocks me out. I'll try the yoga you suggested. It seems that my metabolism has completely stopped due to the Effexor. I eat 99% fat free soup and/or salad with no fat dressing, etc for my meals every day plus excercise several hours a week and I am still very overweight. I was in a size 8 in August. Now I'm in a 16. Now that I'm off the Effexor, the depression is back and crying in the dressing room of the department store because after trying on 20 bathing suits and nothing fits doesn't make it any better. I'm about to the point of moving my office into my house and not coming out again. Any suggestions from anyone is appreciated!
Posted by Tina P on March 5, 2003, at 12:25:59
In reply to Re: Weight gain! Dizziness! Help!, posted by millie on March 5, 2003, at 11:01:01
I'm in the same boat. Heavier than I've ever been in all my life. It's depressing! Doesn't that contradict the purpose of the Effexor?
Posted by KrissyP on March 5, 2003, at 13:51:26
In reply to Re: Weight gain! Dizziness! Help!, posted by millie on March 5, 2003, at 11:01:01
Well, I can relate here to the overweight part-I have been struggling for years-but it seems that I do more complaining then actually DOING it
(eating light, exercise, etc.)BUT I bought a bike
:-) I will get out and exercise-I have to stop talking about it. It can be frustrating(the weight thing) I understand how you feel.
Don't give up. Is something like Lindora feasible for you? I know it is a healthy, successful program.
May I get an idea how much weight you felt was due to the Effexor you were taking before you went of it?
Just wanted to share,
I wish you the best:-)
Kristen
-------------------------------------------------Starlight - tell me a little more about those medicines you mentioned that you take now. I tried Wellbutrin, but that made me a mean, nasty person. Thank God the side effects from withdrawal from Effexor are FINALLY over, but the weight is not coming off. The Atkins diet is not good for people who don't have very strong kidneys, so that knocks me out. I'll try the yoga you suggested. It seems that my metabolism has completely stopped due to the Effexor. I eat 99% fat free soup and/or salad with no fat dressing, etc for my meals every day plus excercise several hours a week and I am still very overweight. I was in a size 8 in August. Now I'm in a 16. Now that I'm off the Effexor, the depression is back and crying in the dressing room of the department store because after trying on 20 bathing suits and nothing fits doesn't make it any better. I'm about to the point of moving my office into my house and not coming out again. Any suggestions from anyone is appreciated!
Posted by napaba on March 5, 2003, at 13:52:46
In reply to Re: Weight gain! Dizziness! Help!, posted by millie on March 5, 2003, at 11:01:01
>Millie - Maybe your not eating enough. If you don't eat enough your body will go into starvation mode and you won't lose weight. Also have you had your thyroid checked? I'm told if your thyroid is underactive you will tend to be overweight. I do a diet simular to the Atkins and it works for me. I was a size six two years ago and am know a size 14. But sense I started the diet I've lost 10 pounds.
Starlight - tell me a little more about those medicines you mentioned that you take now. I tried Wellbutrin, but that made me a mean, nasty person. Thank God the side effects from withdrawal from Effexor are FINALLY over, but the weight is not coming off. The Atkins diet is not good for people who don't have very strong kidneys, so that knocks me out. I'll try the yoga you suggested. It seems that my metabolism has completely stopped due to the Effexor. I eat 99% fat free soup and/or salad with no fat dressing, etc for my meals every day plus excercise several hours a week and I am still very overweight. I was in a size 8 in August. Now I'm in a 16. Now that I'm off the Effexor, the depression is back and crying in the dressing room of the department store because after trying on 20 bathing suits and nothing fits doesn't make it any better. I'm about to the point of moving my office into my house and not coming out again. Any suggestions from anyone is appreciated!
Posted by KrissyP on March 5, 2003, at 13:59:12
In reply to Re: Weight gain! Dizziness! Help!, posted by Tina P on March 5, 2003, at 12:25:59
Can you please elaborate? I am heavier than I've been in all my life too:-(
I want to reply.
Thanks, Kristen:-)> I'm in the same boat. Heavier than I've ever been in all my life. It's depressing! Doesn't that contradict the purpose of the Effexor?
Posted by Jack Smith on March 5, 2003, at 17:59:45
In reply to Re: Weight gain! Dizziness! Help!, posted by millie on March 5, 2003, at 11:01:01
Posted by natural on March 6, 2003, at 0:51:25
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR? , posted by Parks on January 4, 2000, at 16:10:07
k....i have been having bad panic attacks lately...and have ended up in the er because of them....my doctors have out me in therapy and the doctor whos works this therapy has perscribed this effexor.....is this the right thing for me??....
(side note: i have taken remeron 30mgs for a few months after my first attack and didnt have anymore...but then i started on fluvox(amine) as well and a day or two after these attacks started...coincidance??)
thank you for any help
Posted by natural on March 6, 2003, at 1:38:54
In reply to Anyone had success on Effexor XR? , posted by jp on October 24, 1999, at 14:59:14
lol...wow....i know i have know posted twice in a row..but i posted my first before i read or evem discovered how many other posts there are on here....and reading about all these side effects and withdrawls is kinda turning me off....i mean iam sick and tired of these panic attacks and want to do whatever i can to get rid of them and the obbsesive anxiety...iam only 18 and dont wanna have to live the rest of my life based around these past few months....iam still gonna take this stuff for the first time tommorow morning before therapy and see what happens.....but really are the side effects as bad as they seem to sound from all the posts on here?.....keep in mind iam taking this for anxiety and such so iam naturally gonna question and worry about every new side effect stated above..lol...i know i can deal with the withdrawls for a certain period of time (only if my anxietys gone)....i quit smoking cold turkey and just waited those ones out....i guess iam trying to say is i dont wanna go from one problem (the anxiety) to another (side effects and withdrawls).......how farfetched it may be...i just want to be NORMAL again....geez i must be a rookie talking like that...but any insight on how i should approach this would be great.....thanks
Posted by MidgesMom on March 6, 2003, at 3:50:39
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR? YES! , posted by Shel on July 18, 2000, at 1:35:45
I have been on Effexor in vrious dosages for several years now and am on my way off of it. It really helped at first but slowly through the years I began to notice little changes. Twitching of the hands, feet and legs during sleep mostly, where I'd wake up from it, nervous stutters later on, forgetfullness, not being able to remember if I took the pill or not; very fuzzy logic, and lastly, sweating through the night. Sound like I am getting older? I'm not even thirty. Finally informed my doctor that I couldn't handle the side effects anymore to get the benefit of a calm presence of mind. He has been stepping me down slowly to smallest dose and onto Wellbutrin, with Buspar on the side. It works. I haven't had the sickness of withdrawal symptoms, and I am in more control now than ever before in my life. But what had to change as well as the medicine was me realizing that taking a pill alone wasn't going to make my life easier; I had to take a strong inventory of what it is was that made me so mad on a moments notice. And being able to get mental control, when I have a physical inability to make enough of the chemicals my body needs has really helped. And exercise, along with yoga as really helped me even out my life. It's been just amazing. Had I to do it over again with Effexor, for the record I would, it gave me a chance to realise how rotten I had been with my well meaning friends and family, and it gave me the power to get better control of my life; but the side effects get worse the longer you are on it; so the benefits must be carefully weighed. Ultimately, it's a personal decision. Best of luck to you in yours!
Posted by lovemybabies on March 6, 2003, at 6:50:16
In reply to starting effexor tommorow, posted by natural on March 6, 2003, at 0:51:25
I think Effexor works very well for panic attacks. My doc. told me it works on both the serotonin pathway(depression) and the dopamine/norepinephrine pathways(anxiety). I'm at a low dose(75mg) and am increasing to 150mg. Doc. said it works better for anxiety at the higher dose. Be aware--the first two weeks are so are pretty kooky as your body gets adjusted to the med. I felt like I was walking around in someone else's body. It helps to read these posts and hear from other people what they experienced. Stick with it--I felt better, mentally in a matter of DAYS. My side effects wore off in about 5-6 weeks.
Posted by humbly72 on March 6, 2003, at 10:51:04
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR? YES! , posted by MidgesMom on March 6, 2003, at 3:50:39
Thanks to everyone for posting on this board. Three weeks ago I was started on Effexor and the second day I was on it, I found this forum. I decided to stay on the medication despite the potential side effects. I noticed positive results after the first week, and I am slowly seeing how it can work. I started on 37.5 mgs the first week, then 75mgs after that. The only problem is that I am getting all kinds of side effects at different times, not all are constant.
1st. Week: dizziness, headache, sleepiness, couldn't focus
2nd. Week: sleepiness, couldn't focus, occassional night sweats
3rd. Week: sleepiness, lethargic, couldn't focus, w/ ocassional crazy thoughts and actions, feel drunk
4th. Week: (just started) w/ exercise it seems like the sleepiness/tiredness has abated, but still find it hard to focus. A bit hyper.
Sorry for such a long post, but since I don't get to see a psychiatrist until the next 6 weeks, I have decided to keep a journal so that I can take it with me and explain to doctor. Hope this may be of help to someone.
Posted by KrissyP on March 6, 2003, at 14:27:10
In reply to wow......., posted by natural on March 6, 2003, at 1:38:54
I hear you and know how you are feeling-believe me. Talk to your therapist about exactly what you post here. So, you are taking Effexor for anxiety??? Hmmmmmmm I know the XR is approved for Generalized Anxiety Disorder (GAD), which I do have but isn't it more for depression since it is on the market as an AD? Some people have posted on the good and bad of their experiences on Effexor. Give it a chance, it takes anywhere from 4-6 weeks to feel the full effect and if you are willing to put up with any side effects you do have then all the better. But, of course, talk to you doc, he/she can help you with those side effects until your body gets used to the Effexor. I am on it, and it helps my depression, HOWEVER, I get extremely manic on it, and that is one of the precautions listed for the docs who prescribe it. These companies have to post EVERY side effect a person reports while on it. Try not to worry. I know, easier said than done. *Good for you that you quit smoking cold turkey and had little effects from doing so.
I wish you the best and please keep posting that's what we're here for-I post a lot lately!
Kristen:-)
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reading about all these side effects and withdrawls is kinda turning me off....i mean iam sick and tired of these panic attacks and want to do whatever i can to get rid of them and the obbsesive anxiety...iam only 18 and dont wanna have to live the rest of my life based around these past few months....iam still gonna take this stuff for the first time tommorow morning before therapy and see what happens.....but really are the side effects as bad as they seem to sound from all the posts on here?.....keep in mind iam taking this for anxiety and such so iam naturally gonna question and worry about every new side effect stated above..lol...i know i can deal with the withdrawls for a certain period of time (only if my anxietys gone)....i quit smoking cold turkey and just waited those ones out....i guess iam trying to say is i dont wanna go from one problem (the anxiety) to another (side effects and withdrawls).......how farfetched it may be...i just want to be NORMAL again....geez i must be a rookie talking like that...but any insight on how i should approach this would be great.....thanks
Posted by KrissyP on March 6, 2003, at 14:34:32
In reply to Re: starting effexor tommorow, posted by lovemybabies on March 6, 2003, at 6:50:16
Posted by KrissyP on March 6, 2003, at 15:01:43
In reply to Started Effexor 3 weeks ago -- Weird, posted by humbly72 on March 6, 2003, at 10:51:04
Hi :-) No worries, I've done longer posts-that's not the point. May I ask what your diagnosis is?
When do you take the Effexor? I felt the exact same feelings you express here. I am on 75 mg of Effexor-XR. I just started taking it before bed and it has made a difference. I am sleeping better, but I also have added 25 mg of Lamictal-hoping to up my dose for my bipolar. I went off Lamictal last March and I learned it was a mistake-that's why I went back on it.
Thanks for sharing, hope to hear back........
Also, your journal is a great idea-I think I need to do that too. Thanks.
Kristen
-------------------------------------------------1st. Week: dizziness, headache, sleepiness, couldn't focus
2nd. Week: sleepiness, couldn't focus, occassional night sweats
3rd. Week: sleepiness, lethargic, couldn't focus, w/ ocassional crazy thoughts and actions, feel drunk
4th. Week: (just started) w/ exercise it seems like the sleepiness/tiredness has abated, but still find it hard to focus. A bit hyper.
Sorry for such a long post, but since I don't get to see a psychiatrist until the next 6 weeks, I have decided to keep a journal so that I can take it with me and explain to doctor. Hope this may be of help to someone.
Posted by humbly72 on March 6, 2003, at 15:07:35
In reply to Re: Started Effexor 3 weeks ago -- Weird » humbly72, posted by KrissyP on March 6, 2003, at 15:01:43
I was prescribed the Effexor for depression and anxiety. I take the medication after breakfast. My primary doctor also prescribed Klonapin for the manic episodes, but from what I've read here, it's probably not a good idea to take it. I took a quarter of a pill last night and slept well, but still got up at 4am, rather than the usual 6am.
> Hi :-) No worries, I've done longer posts-that's not the point. May I ask what your diagnosis is?
> When do you take the Effexor?
Posted by napaba on March 6, 2003, at 15:12:54
In reply to Re: Started Effexor 3 weeks ago -- Weird » humbly72, posted by KrissyP on March 6, 2003, at 15:01:43
> I had the same side effects the first month or so on Effexor. I still have sweats (usually in the early aafternoon, bur probably only 2 or 3 times a week. Also it will feel like my heart is racing. I'm having some blood work done and have low blood pressure. I think the racing is from Anxiety. I'm only taking 75mgs, my doctor would like to increase it, but I want to keep the dose as low as possible.
Hang in there, after that first month I bet you'll be pleasently surprised.
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> 1st. Week: dizziness, headache, sleepiness, couldn't focus
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> 2nd. Week: sleepiness, couldn't focus, occassional night sweats
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> 3rd. Week: sleepiness, lethargic, couldn't focus, w/ ocassional crazy thoughts and actions, feel drunk
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> 4th. Week: (just started) w/ exercise it seems like the sleepiness/tiredness has abated, but still find it hard to focus. A bit hyper.
>
> Sorry for such a long post, but since I don't get to see a psychiatrist until the next 6 weeks, I have decided to keep a journal so that I can take it with me and explain to doctor. Hope this may be of help to someone.
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Posted by KrissyP on March 6, 2003, at 15:25:16
In reply to Re: Started Effexor 3 weeks ago -- Weird, posted by humbly72 on March 6, 2003, at 15:07:35
Hun, like I said we all have had good AND bad results from Klonopin-mostly good since i've seen. Everyone is different here, we can only post our experiences.
Please give it time, it may work wonders for you.
How long have you been taking the Klonopin?
Hope to hear again.
I wish you the best:-)
Kristen------------------------------------------
I was prescribed the Effexor for depression and anxiety. I take the medication after breakfast. My primary doctor also prescribed Klonapin for the manic episodes, but from what I've read here, it's probably not a good idea to take it. I took a quarter of a pill last night and slept well, but still got up at 4am, rather than the usual 6am.
Posted by KrissyP on March 6, 2003, at 15:28:15
In reply to Re: Started Effexor 3 weeks ago -- Weird, posted by napaba on March 6, 2003, at 15:12:54
Yes! I agree>>Hang in there, after that first month I bet you'll be pleasently surprised.
I was, and am working on the unnecessary mania still, but overall Effexor has been great for me anyway.
Kristen:-)----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I had the same side effects the first month or so on Effexor. I still have sweats (usually in the early aafternoon, bur probably only 2 or 3 times a week. Also it will feel like my heart is racing. I'm having some blood work done and have low blood pressure. I think the racing is from Anxiety. I'm only taking 75mgs, my doctor would like to increase it, but I want to keep the dose as low as possible.
Hang in there, after that first month I bet you'll be pleasently surprised.
Posted by Tina P on March 6, 2003, at 16:37:22
In reply to Re: Weight gain! Dizziness! Help! » Tina P, posted by KrissyP on March 5, 2003, at 13:59:12
I'd be happy to elaborate! I have diabetes, and I use the insulin pump. This alone is a major contributing factor to my depression, as well as my weight struggles, but it's a viscious cycle regardless. I've always struggled with 15-30lbs, since my teens, but it wasn't until my mid-twenties that the weight started piling on. Around the same time, I started taking Paxil, which helped my depression a great deal, but made my struggle with the pounds even more difficult. Then I had my first baby ... and I haven't seen that old body that I complained about for all those years since. He is now 7 mos. and I feel like I'm still gaining weight, even all these months after the pregnancy. My doctor switched me from the Paxil to Effexor XL, with hopes that it would help with the weight gain, but it hasn't. And here I am today, needing to loose about 65lbs! Any advice?
Posted by natural on March 6, 2003, at 16:57:56
In reply to starting effexor tommorow, posted by natural on March 6, 2003, at 0:51:25
first off thank you for your input and responses....with this whole anixiety issue i got going i need to be sure about almost everything and this board has helped me alot...so thank you....
and yes iam taking it for anxiety and panic attacks and stuff....my it worked well for me today..i felt pretty nautious all day and without this board that would have concerned me alot throughout the day..i didnt notice any other side effects but thats prolly cause my heads already in another place latey...i have been taking adavan as needed latley and didnt have the need to take it today (i wouldnt let myself take it).....i also found a way to stabalise at least the panic attacks last night and with this pill i think/hope its only a matter of time before i feel better....iam just glad the hope that i had lost the previous 6 months is back with me...
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