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Posted by PodWoman on February 9, 2003, at 20:22:17
In reply to Re: Topamax long term OCD bing eater » PodWoman, posted by maaron71 on February 8, 2003, at 23:32:33
Yeah, I know. Scary, huh?
Actually, I just went off Lexapro (I wrote something else in that original list o' pills...my brain strain). My doc took me off all my meds except my minocycline (acne), synthroid (thyroid) and ambien (to sleep finally) and add the Topamax. That was two days ago. I've gained 2 lbs. but I also got my period Friday while at the pharmacy picking up my Topamax. How's that for timing?As far as the Topamax goes, my doc perscribed 25mg tabs to me and instructed me to boost myself 25mg at a time when I'm sure the current doage is not giving me side effects. So far I have not noticed any and will be at 50mg Monday. I do notice I am less hungery less frequently and more noticably (which I have not read about anywhere yet) when I do eat I seem to get full really fast. Like uncomfortably full to the point where I wouldnt eat out of just the thrill of eating (LOL)if you paid me. It's actually uncomfortable. Example: Special treat made by my chef (really is a chef by trade...dont get me started) hubby: chipwiches (freshly baked choc. chip cookies w/ice cream). I couldnt eat the whole thing easily. I actually did but it was a learning experience (I won't do it again...it was tooooo much. Whereas I would have eaten the whole thing before).
So now I await the monthly cycle to wheel its way away so this weight loss can commence. Any and all insight, thoughts, support or advice is welcomed.
I said to my doc on Friday "I really want to try the Topamax. I hate eating all the time." He said "No you don't. Eating's great. Everyone loves eating, food's great. You hate feeling hungry." How right he is.
> Oh my, PodWoman! I just read your message. I don't know what your doc ended up giving you, but I have been on my own list of meds and they finally put me on Lexapro, it's a new thread of Paxil and Celexa without all of the bad effects. I felt just like you did. My nickname many moons ago was hyper-spaz. I thought that person was gone, never to come back. I've been looking for her for years. (I can't believe I just starting crying out of happiness.) Since I started taking the combination of Lexapro and Topomax she's back.
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> The weight loss thing is slow going, at first it started flying off, then I got pnemonia and bronchitis and my gp put me on prednisone twice and it came back on. I'm working on going back down now.
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> Good Luck to you!
Posted by karmagirl on February 10, 2003, at 16:37:56
In reply to Re: Topamax long term OCD bing eater, posted by PodWoman on February 9, 2003, at 20:22:17
Hi Podwoman! Has cola started to taste flat yet? (LOL) It BLEW ME AWAY the first time I ever had cola after taking the topomax and it was as fizzy as water!!! Also, the tingling sensation in my hands and feet was BIGGER(?) than your typical tingling sensation. It was a nuisance but those were the only side effects I experienced when I started taking it. I did have some cognitive dullness but it was equivalent to my college days as a pothead so I wasn't bothered by it!! LOL It went away and wasn't really that noticeable, nor did it effect my work. I work in a very high tech environment and never missed a beat. Probably the dumbest thing I did was light a cigarette and put the match to my lips and tossed the cig in the ashtray instead of the other way around. At least I had sense enough to blow it out first. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that I can't eat as much as I used to. I DO get full MUCH quicker than I used to. I've decided to use that to my advantage though. If I go out to eat, I ALWAYS get a salad first and I ALWAYS split my food in half BEFORE I eat. Before the Topomax, girlfriend I could go with the best of the Big Girl Posse! No buffet was safe....But now, I just can't hold as much without hurting myself. I don't even try. Why bother when I want to get rid of the weight anyway. I used to feel compelled to eat everything on my plate, that's why I automatically separate my food right down the middle and get a to-go box right up front. I don't have to look at food left on the plate and I'm not wasting it because it will be a meal later on. FYI, I'm down another 2.4 lbs. last week bringing me a little closer to my goal. THANK GOD!!! Weight Watchers is not for everyone but it has really been a blessing to me. I can clearly see through the eyes of faith that I am going to get there because I am who God says I am. And so are you. Do you know who God says you are? (Romans 8:37) Yes, you do. Believe what He says and ignore all the other voices. I think the One that made you would know more about you!!! LOL Be encouraged and expect GREAT things to happen...when you expect it to happen, it will.
karmagirl
Posted by PodWoman on February 11, 2003, at 12:10:15
In reply to Re: Topamax long term OCD bing eater, posted by karmagirl on February 10, 2003, at 16:37:56
Hi K-girl!
I haven't actually had any Coke or Pepsi yet but I'll let you know! LOL I have noticed a few brain farts where I get my thoughts and words mixed up (my hubby and kids think it's funny) and yes--it is just like the old pothead days...good fodder for a laugh or two!Also, my periods are a bit longer (5 days instead of my ususal 3-4) and more intense: heavier, achier). That could just be "normal" for me as one of the previous med I was taking "helped" with PMS and menstral symptoms (I forget which one).
I have tried WW and have failed at it, just like I have failed at every diet on the planet...and then some (LOL!). I actually have an online WW account which has remain unused for a while now...I was thinking I would scrap it for now. I am happy simply eating less because my body allows it...It's a beginning. And a blessing where all else has failed. As someone else in this thread once said, "I can see a light at the end of the tunnel...and it's not a train coming!"
--Podwoman
Posted by karmagirl on February 11, 2003, at 13:13:00
In reply to Re: Topamax long term OCD bing eater » karmagirl, posted by PodWoman on February 11, 2003, at 12:10:15
Hi PWOMAN!! I was having brain farts before the meds so it just blended right in!!! LOL!! Let me know how it works for you. Eating less is a great thing. I noticed that around that "time" of the month I didn't have to have MASSIVE amts. of chocolate or sweets so that has helped and the binge control has DEFINITELY worked in my favor. Keep me posted with your success cause I KNOW that's gonna be the outcome for you. Good luck to ya and keep your head up!!
Karmachickie----
Posted by PodWoman on February 11, 2003, at 14:36:05
In reply to Re: Topamax long term OCD bing eater, posted by karmagirl on February 11, 2003, at 13:13:00
Karmagirl, you ROCK!
I'm feeling SO hopeful today! I've got tunes on the radio going, my creative juices are flowing (I have an eBay store), I'm actually getting things DONE instead of eating all day long. What a nice feeling!
How long have you been on Topamax? Since June? By the way, way to go on that 2+ lbs!!! Fantastic! How much does that make for you now? Are you still at 150 mgs? I think my 2 dogs are wondering what's up and they'll probably get fatter as I lose weight due to the fewer trips back and forth to the kitchen from my office (they follow me every where---and I mean EVERYWHERE). LOL!! It's too darn cold to take them out right now anyway (5 F).
Did anyone watch Oprah yesterday with weightloss stories of HUNDREDS of pounds?? Jeepers...Now that's what I call a miracle! These poor souls were at their personal bottoms...been there, done that.
Anyway, thanks again for the note, KG...I have come to look forward to your cheerful support! It's nice to have a cyber-friend out there who understands!
---Podwoman
Posted by karmagirl on February 11, 2003, at 17:42:26
In reply to Re: Topamax long term OCD bing eater, posted by PodWoman on February 11, 2003, at 14:36:05
I'm SOOOOO excited for you Podwoman!! Glad to hear how well things are going for you. Love Dr. Bob's website but email me at myname1atyahoodotcom so we can chat more freely than posting. I'm still at 100 MG for the Topomax and that's as high as I will go. At least for now. My doc thinks that's high enough. I missed Oprah yesterday but I wanted to see it. I KNOW it was inspiring to see people who'd lost so much. I'm telling you girlfriend, just the smallest changes in your diet can make such a HUGE difference. For example the splitting of a meal in half like I mentioned in my post yesterday. Oh my goodness, I am so excited about life and the freedom that I feel. Wanna hear the funny part? I'm still almost 300 lbs!!! LOL But I'm 63 lbs. lighter than when I started back in June and I can see that I WILL get where I want to be...Not sure where that is but we can get there together. I just wanna feel better and not let EVERY move I make be a struggle. At 360 lbs. (June 02, to 297 (current) I'm telling you, it's like a whole world has opened up to me. Wanna hear the cutest thing?? I feel like SUCH a lady...because I CAN CROSS MY LEGS...WITHOUTH HOLDING THE OTHER ONE ON TOP!!!! LOL!! Call me crazy, but the first time I realized I was crossing my legs and I didn't HAVE to hold it, I almost cried. All I could think was how good God was for sparing my life to let me get to see that day. Yes, God is in even the smallest of miracles. And if my life would've been over at that moment, I would've passed on happy. It's a great journey, it's not easy, but it will change your life. The reward is like being let out of prison. I'm SO excited that I just want to tell every person I see that they can do it. If I can do it, ANYBODY can do it!! LOL I'm the BAG-O-BINGER..meaning i eat the whole BAG-O-ANYTHING when I would binge!! (lol) Any tips, recipes, ideas, common sense (not much of that left--hehe) but whatever resources I have, I'm willing to share. Email me and keep me posted!!!
karmagirl1
Posted by babs on February 13, 2003, at 19:29:59
In reply to Re: Topamax long term OCD bing eater, posted by karmagirl on February 11, 2003, at 17:42:26
Hi Ladies- What a great crew you are! My pdoc just prescribed Topamax to hopefully help me with the 60 pounds I've gained from my current meds. I am going to start at 25 mg and move up to 50. I haven't taken it yet and I'm a littl;e scared because I just had a horrible reaction to geodon. So, what do I need to know- irritability, insomnia, sedation, anxiety, its nickname as dopeamax because of cognitive dulling? Tell me everyhting! And what's this about coke suddenly tasting gross? I am positively addicted to diet Coke and drink too much so this might be a good thing! Thanks, babs
Posted by JennieInnex on February 13, 2003, at 19:48:23
In reply to joining the topamax club, posted by babs on February 13, 2003, at 19:29:59
Hello Everyone! I too just started taking Topamax. However, I am already up to 300mg a day. I have just started to notice quite a bit of depression. Is this normal? Maybe it is withdrawal from my depakote??? I have been on a VERY large dose of that and have been tapering down to none for weight loss. I have a seizure disorder due to head trauma.
Posted by FloridaOT on February 14, 2003, at 8:08:21
In reply to joining the topamax club, posted by babs on February 13, 2003, at 19:29:59
> Hi Ladies- What a great crew you are! My pdoc just prescribed Topamax to hopefully help me with the 60 pounds I've gained from my current meds. I am going to start at 25 mg and move up to 50. I haven't taken it yet and I'm a littl;e scared because I just had a horrible reaction to geodon. So, what do I need to know- irritability, insomnia, sedation, anxiety, its nickname as dopeamax because of cognitive dulling? Tell me everyhting! And what's this about coke suddenly tasting gross? I am positively addicted to diet Coke and drink too much so this might be a good thing! Thanks, babs
Hi Babs! Sorry I haven't responded sooner. I am currently at 100mg strictly for weightloss. Personally, I have not had the "soda tasting wierd" side effect(Thank goodness, because, I live on diet soda) or, the cognitive dulling(knock on wood). I am an Occupational Therapist in a fast paced rehab facility working 10 to 12 hour shifts. I've been on the Topamax for 1 month (started @ 25mg and increased dosage every week) and have lost 5 pounds without any effort on my behalf. The medication has decreased my appetite and cravings tremendously. I don't even feel like snacking between meals. I love this stuff!!! I know other people have had drowsiness but, as for me I've been given more energy and had to start taking my dosage in the a.m. because it was giving me insomnia taking it at night.
My response to this med is not the norm, I know. Just goes to show you how it can effect everyone differently. And how it can effect the person whom is taking it strictly for weight loss.
Oh, and one more thing to throw into the mix... Has anyone out there noticed increased libido? I am a newly wed and unfortunately for my new husband, the prozac and wellbutrin had greatly deminished my sexual desire, but since taking the Topamax it has gradually come back.
Everybody have a great day! FloridaOT
Posted by PodWoman on February 14, 2003, at 8:18:55
In reply to Re: joining the topamax club » babs, posted by FloridaOT on February 14, 2003, at 8:08:21
Hi--
I've only been on the Topamax one week (exactly). Lost 4.5 lbs and yes carbonated drinks taste a little tinny. Libido? What's that? LOL Just kidding. Mine came back, but that's because I'm 3 weeks off 4 meds that wiped mine off the face of the earth. Yea! Last night was an early Valentine's present.... :) As far as the "Dope-a-max" a name which I LOVE by the way, it's fodder for some amusement but I'm told it should go away. As for fatigue, yes, it makes me tired. But for me it's at odd times, and not all the time. It hits me mid day then late afternoon. I take my med at bedtime. My appetite is close to nil. I crave watery foods like celery, grapes...and salt for some reason. Weird. I also have forearm tingling and numbness, like they fell asleep. It's off and on about 12 hrs after I take the meds.
Good luck! Oh by the way---My shrink tells me 150-200g minimum are when you'll see (anyone will see) real results with this drug).
Posted by babs on February 14, 2003, at 9:59:54
In reply to Re: joining the topamax club, posted by PodWoman on February 14, 2003, at 8:18:55
So it seems like any weight loss won't happen until 150-200 mg. I think my pdoc is only planning on getting me up to 50 mg. I only need it for weight loss but it sounds like this won't be enough. What should I do?
Posted by PodWoman on February 14, 2003, at 13:07:17
In reply to Re: topamax dosage, posted by babs on February 14, 2003, at 9:59:54
<...it sounds like this won't be enough. What should I do?>
Find out why your doc is not planning to bring up the amt higher, is my suggestion. Maybe s/he doesn't have enough info about the drug to feel secure about doing so, or, maybe there are other medical reason why s/he is anable to do so (specifically related to you).
--Podwoman
Posted by babs on February 14, 2003, at 13:42:07
In reply to Re: topamax dosage, posted by PodWoman on February 14, 2003, at 13:07:17
Well- Day one on topamax and I can't focus at all (I'm trying to work on a PhD here!). I took 25 mg last night. Does this side effect diminish with time? I'm already on adderall to help with ADD and can't really afford anything that makes my concentration worse. I have a lot of work to get done! Woe is me.....
Posted by PodWoman on February 14, 2003, at 14:51:16
In reply to Re: started topamax and I can't focus!, posted by babs on February 14, 2003, at 13:42:07
Fear not....This is one of the Dope-a-max side effects that *Thankfully* diminishes with time. If it doesn't within a week or so, I think, you should probably speak to your doc.
good luck & hang in there,
---Podwoman
Posted by suji on February 14, 2003, at 15:41:00
In reply to Re: started topamax and I can't focus!, posted by babs on February 14, 2003, at 13:42:07
I have to say that this one of the major reasons I stopped taking Topamax--I am also a full-time student working on an M.Div and I also take meds for ADD (dexedrine)...I found it very difficult to think at the level I need to for scholarly work, and this side-effect did not go away over the 3+ months I took Topamax. Nor, unfortunately, did I lose any weight...(although the negative cognitive side-effects would certainly have trumped even losing a LOT of weight!) Clearly, we all react differently to all these meds, so this is just to let you know of my own experience. I am glad to hear that other people have had better results.
One reassuring note is that after stopping the Topamax, it wasn't more than a day or two before I was able to think again...
Best of luck to you--and everyone else!
suji
Posted by audrey on February 14, 2003, at 18:04:25
In reply to Re: started topamax and I can't focus!, posted by suji on February 14, 2003, at 15:41:00
I just picked up my prescription for Topamax, and there was a nice little note from the pharmacist informing me that I need to use a back up form of birth control to my bc pills. My doctor didn't mention anything about this!! But sure enough, after doing a little research it looks like this drug can reduce the efficacy of the pill. That sucks! My husband isn't so excited about it, either, but he said he'd rather I was happy, stable, etc. Has anyone NOT used another form of birth control and had "problems?" With my screwed up brain chemistry, I definitely should not be procreating!!
Posted by exys on February 15, 2003, at 22:46:33
In reply to starting topamax -- bc pills??, posted by audrey on February 14, 2003, at 18:04:25
I was on topomax for over a year, and I had no problems with my bc pills... but i'm not saying i'm everyone. There's a warning obviously for a reason... so if you choose to take the route I did you'll be thanking your lucky stars at the end of each month when you do finally get your period.
Topomax helped me lose about 30+ lbs in just a few months and I managed to keep it off until a few months ago when suddenly it seemed to stop working. My mood when down the drain and all the weight I lost just came back like it was nothing. It was very very depressing.
I just started zoloft because my mood was so down in the dumps... know anything about those side effects?
Posted by maaron71 on February 16, 2003, at 0:26:48
In reply to joining the topamax club, posted by babs on February 13, 2003, at 19:29:59
Yep, The cokes will taste absolutely so nasty for awhile. The taste comes back though. Dark colas are worse than lighter ones. I'm a Diet Dew junkie and just had to live through the nasty taste because I couldn't live with the headhaches caused by the caffiene withdrawal. Good Luck!
Posted by maaron71 on February 16, 2003, at 0:30:07
In reply to Re: joining the topamax club » babs, posted by FloridaOT on February 14, 2003, at 8:08:21
I have not experienced the Dopemax syndrome. Good thing for me. I already get my words mixed up on my own. As for my libido, lucky you, mine has dropped, poor boyfriend!
Posted by maaron71 on February 16, 2003, at 0:32:57
In reply to Re: joining the topamax club, posted by JennieInnex on February 13, 2003, at 19:48:23
That seems like a high dosage. The highest I have heard of is 200. Of course your's is for a different cause than most of us. Mine is for double duty. I'm on it for mood stabilization, weight loss, and night seizures due to a cyst in my brain. I take 100 right now and they may increase it, but I am having a lot of anoying side effects that my doc doesn't want to add to.
Posted by JennieInnex on February 16, 2003, at 12:07:07
In reply to Re: joining the topamax club, posted by maaron71 on February 16, 2003, at 0:32:57
Maaron71
Thanks for your input. I appreciate everybody's comments so much! It helps so much to know there are other people out there going thru similiar situations as myself. My Topamax has just been raised to level it off at 400mg per day. This is where the doc wants it to stay until I have completely withdrawn from all Depakote. That should be by the end of March. I had been on 2750mg of Depakote per day. If I remain seizure free then he will keep the dosage at that amount, if not then he will add additional amounts of Topamax. I have Generalized Tonic Clonic seizures which were acquired from a head injury 30 years ago. What side effects do you experience from the Topamax?
Posted by exys on February 16, 2003, at 12:17:41
In reply to Re: joining the topamax club, posted by JennieInnex on February 16, 2003, at 12:07:07
My side effects were major loss of appitite, icky tingling in my hands and feet that eventually went away, bad taste when I drank anything carbonated but that's cool because soda isn't that good for you anyway! (ever since my topomax regimin thingy i've stayed clear from soda) and I would mix up words and be pretty forgetful. It's pretty weird when you're talking to your friends about what kind of food to bring to a party and you say "So... I should bring diapers?" They never let me live it down. It was too funny.
Well... that was all for me.
Posted by maaron71 on February 16, 2003, at 15:08:50
In reply to Re: joining the topamax club, posted by JennieInnex on February 16, 2003, at 12:07:07
Gosh, I guess the most annoying for me are numbness in my hands and fingers, feet and toes, and also in my mouth and tongue. This is to the point that food taste funny. My sleep patterns have been affected and my tummy is not always very steady. One of the most annoying is the twitchy eye syndrome to the point where people notice it. The next is light headedness. None of these things are worth giving up the positive effects of the medicine though. I used to have horrible night seizures and now I can get through the night without them.
Posted by PodWoman on February 16, 2003, at 18:13:06
In reply to topomax=no prob w. bc pills for me/zoloft? , posted by exys on February 15, 2003, at 22:46:33
Loved Zoloft, hated losing my mojo.
Posted by exys on February 16, 2003, at 19:05:39
In reply to Re: topomax=no prob w. bc pills for me/zoloft? , posted by PodWoman on February 16, 2003, at 18:13:06
*cries* and I never had much of a mojo to begin with...
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