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Posted by mills on October 17, 2002, at 9:08:07
In reply to Re: Who said anything about sex?, posted by maririp on October 17, 2002, at 7:47:41
Imagine the money we could make if we could come up with an SSRI that did not cause sexual side effects. Zowee! You've got to know "they" are working on it, and if not, pharmrep should be banging on his President's office door and forwarding them these posts.
Posted by johnj on October 17, 2002, at 9:10:19
In reply to Re: sex and orgasms, posted by shakingoscar on October 17, 2002, at 7:59:35
I could have an orgasm while on remeron, but they were not satisfying at all. Something was blunted, well everything was blunted on remeron. Sometimes I think having an orgasm on remeron was more frustrating than not having sex. That crap about remeron not affecting orgasm is bull. Yes, you might have them, but they felt like nothing.
johnj
Posted by pharmrep on October 17, 2002, at 10:27:40
In reply to Re: Drug company / Tobacco company. » Gaillardia, posted by Phil on October 16, 2002, at 19:29:27
Just because someone is discussing orgasms, it doesn't necessarily mean they're with someone else at the time.
If you're lucky enough to have sex but can't orgasm, you aren't going to be happy for long.
> Nicotine's not addictive and our products aren't harmful.
> Our SSRI's don't cause over 9-5-2% sexual side effects. It's false and it's a major, major lie to the AD consumer. Tell us the real story on everything, period.** one step at a time Phil..."real" story...it's no secret that many ad's have sexual side effects, the people that have them often have a tough balance, but would rather be able to get out of bed, have a life, keep a job, and actually have sex (with somebody)....why are you ripping on me? Im here to help, not be your punching bag.
Posted by trmpqwn on October 17, 2002, at 10:54:45
In reply to Re: sex and orgasms » shakingoscar, posted by johnj on October 17, 2002, at 9:10:19
note my earlier post...I am not having sexual side effects on Lexapro!!!!! I did initially but after a few weeks, back to normal. Have hope....and patience.
Posted by maririp on October 17, 2002, at 11:29:51
In reply to Re: sex and orgasms » shakingoscar, posted by johnj on October 17, 2002, at 9:10:19
> I could have an orgasm while on remeron, but they were not satisfying at all. Something was blunted, well everything was blunted on remeron. Sometimes I think having an orgasm on remeron was more frustrating than not having sex. That crap about remeron not affecting orgasm is bull. Yes, you might have them, but they felt like nothing.
> johnjI agree with john completely, I had orgasms but they were not good ones and frankly at times i would think is that it?? I also had no desire for allot of forepay. On remeron all i did was eat constantly...too bad that doesnt give orgasms..hahaha..anyway..I would not recommend remeron.
Posted by pharmrep on October 17, 2002, at 12:11:19
In reply to Re: sex and orgasms, posted by maririp on October 17, 2002, at 11:29:51
*** anyone heard of this one? I asked this one DR what hid did for people having difficulty w/ orgasms...and he told me that for guys, he would give an injection once a month of testosterone (250-500mg)...he said that after that his male pts did have ejac. probs anymore.
Posted by meow mary on October 17, 2002, at 12:12:12
In reply to Re: Who said anything about sex?, posted by Phil on October 17, 2002, at 6:15:35
Boy, you really can't say anything around here without getting into trouble with someone. Of course I realize the tragedy of inability to orgasm on SSRI's--I experience it myself. Maybe I meant it's all a matter of perspective--if you're with someone who's caring about whether you do or don't orgasm I still think you're lucky. And having sex with yourself isn't the worst thing in the world either.
Posted by pharmrep on October 17, 2002, at 12:12:46
In reply to orgasms, posted by pharmrep on October 17, 2002, at 12:11:19
> *** anyone heard of this one? I asked this one DR what hid did for people having difficulty w/ orgasms...and he told me that for guys, he would give an injection once a month of testosterone (250-500mg)...he said that after that his male pts did have ejac. probs anymore.
*** correction..."didnt" have probs anymore
Posted by Phil on October 17, 2002, at 12:15:44
In reply to Re: 20%?, posted by Caydi on October 16, 2002, at 20:00:52
It doesn't matter if you think about it or not. If you get the side effect, you can't think your way thru it. I wish it was that easy.
Posted by Phil on October 17, 2002, at 12:56:27
In reply to Re: raw boy/see bottom » Phil, posted by pharmrep on October 17, 2002, at 10:27:40
Posted by mills on October 17, 2002, at 13:00:50
In reply to Re: orgasms, posted by pharmrep on October 17, 2002, at 12:12:46
no, but I just made an appointment with my doc for my first monthly testosterone injection
> > *** anyone heard of this one? I asked this one DR what hid did for people having difficulty w/ orgasms...and he told me that for guys, he would give an injection once a month of testosterone (250-500mg)...he said that after that his male pts did have ejac. probs anymore.
>
> *** correction..."didnt" have probs anymore
Posted by Phil on October 17, 2002, at 15:11:17
In reply to Re: orgasms, posted by mills on October 17, 2002, at 13:00:50
If your girlfriends voice drops or she develops more facial hair, that will get interesting.
The dose pharmrep recommends may be small, I don't know, but guys taking testosterone therapy have often seen their g.f. or spouse change a little.
Double check with your doc and don't take "some docs" advice.my 2 bits
Posted by mills on October 17, 2002, at 15:30:24
In reply to Re: orgasms » mills, posted by Phil on October 17, 2002, at 15:11:17
What the...?
> If your girlfriends voice drops or she develops more facial hair, that will get interesting.
> The dose pharmrep recommends may be small, I don't know, but guys taking testosterone therapy have often seen their g.f. or spouse change a little.
> Double check with your doc and don't take "some docs" advice.
>
> my 2 bits
Posted by Dinah on October 17, 2002, at 15:58:10
In reply to Re: orgasms, posted by pharmrep on October 17, 2002, at 12:12:46
Couldn't testoterone injections potentially cause adverse mood effects?
Posted by Phil on October 17, 2002, at 17:50:18
In reply to Re: orgasms... Huh?????, posted by mills on October 17, 2002, at 15:30:24
Men being treated for low testosterone, especially with a patch they used to use that was applied in the pubic area, noticed wives or girlfriends absorbing a little too much of the dose. Look it up. : )
I don't think it's real smart to get on testosterone injections without your doc doing a blood workup and seeing what your level is.
If you have a normal level of testosterone and want injections, you may be making a mistake. Talk to your doctor.
Posted by ajclucky on October 17, 2002, at 18:54:03
In reply to Anyone switched to Lexapro? « ggrrl, posted by Dr. Bob on June 11, 2002, at 7:52:48
i just started taking lexapro 4 days ago and noticed i am getting migrains. is this associated with lexapro
Posted by Phil on October 17, 2002, at 19:10:45
In reply to Re: orgasms... Huh?????, posted by Phil on October 17, 2002, at 17:50:18
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=9934946&dopt=Abstract
Posted by pharmrep on October 17, 2002, at 19:38:44
In reply to Re: Anyone switched to Lexapro? « ggrrl, posted by ajclucky on October 17, 2002, at 18:54:03
> i just started taking lexapro 4 days ago and noticed i am getting migrains. is this associated with lexapro
** it has been posted here, and I have heard doctors say they see some nausea, dizziness, and headache with some people (usually in the 1st wk or so...then it goes away or at least lessens by the 2nd wk or so)..hang in there and keep us posted.
Posted by ANXIETY ANN on October 17, 2002, at 19:46:05
In reply to Re: Anyone switched to Lexapro? « ggrrl, posted by ajclucky on October 17, 2002, at 18:54:03
> i just started taking lexapro 4 days ago and noticed i am getting migrains. is this associated with lexapro
> Hang in there, when I first started taking Lexapro I had terrible headaches but they went away after about a week. Its been 10 days for me and I feel much better.
Good Luck
Posted by maririp on October 17, 2002, at 21:03:00
In reply to Re: Anyone switched to Lexapro? « ggrrl, posted by ajclucky on October 17, 2002, at 18:54:03
If you can hang in there those should go away..I started feelin real good on lexapro around day 6
Posted by ayrity on October 17, 2002, at 21:10:58
In reply to Re: orgasms... Huh?????, posted by Phil on October 17, 2002, at 17:50:18
Absolutely, Phil:
Please be careful about such advice you receive here or elsewhere.I was born with an endocrine disorder and need to take Testosterone because I essentially produce none on my own. The dosage I take is 200 mg twice a month by injection. So the dose that Pharmrep recommended is a *full replacement* dose and likely way too high for someone without T deficiency.
Furthermore, testosterone injections can definitely cause mood swings and depression (just as lack of T can as well). Not to mention the risk of numerous other problems, large and small, from acne to liver failure (rare).
However, that being said, careful exploration of hormonal augmentation *in collaboration with an experienced doctor* (I can't stress that enough) might be a useful addition to standard AD treatment.
> I don't think it's real smart to get on testosterone injections without your doc doing a blood workup and seeing what your level is.
> If you have a normal level of testosterone and want injections, you may be making a mistake. Talk to your doctor.
Posted by Seamus2 on October 17, 2002, at 21:32:52
In reply to Careful with that T, was Re: orgasms..., posted by ayrity on October 17, 2002, at 21:10:58
Ayrity, why aren't you using a transdermal gel instead of the shots? It evens out the fluctuations in T levels and if you get it compounded it's not that expensive. (Androgel, OTOH, is).
What do you do about testicular atrophy?
Once I got on the T, I haven't had a need for anti-depressants at all. Wish I'd had my levels tested 20 years ago...
Posted by pharmrep on October 17, 2002, at 21:40:57
In reply to Re: orgasms, posted by pharmrep on October 17, 2002, at 12:12:46
*** I am not recommending this...I merely asked what everyone thought about it. (and if you read closely...I am referring to males only..for those who think girls with mustaches will appear)
> > *** anyone heard of this one? I asked this one DR what hid did for people having difficulty w/ orgasms...and he told me that for guys, he would give an injection once a month of testosterone (250-500mg)...he said that after that his male pts didnt have ejac. probs anymore.
>
Posted by SLS on October 17, 2002, at 23:31:08
In reply to Re: Careful with that T, was Re: orgasms... » ayrity, posted by Seamus2 on October 17, 2002, at 21:32:52
Hi Seamus.
> Once I got on the T, I haven't had a need for anti-depressants at all. Wish I'd had my levels tested 20 years ago...
Gosh. I can hardly believe it.How would you describe your depression and how it affected you? What drugs have you tried in the past?
I have been thinking about testosterone on-and-off over this past year. I'd like to see if there are any similarities between your experiences and mine.
Thanks in advance.
- Scott
Posted by Phil on October 18, 2002, at 6:46:24
In reply to Re: orgasms/testosterone, posted by pharmrep on October 17, 2002, at 21:40:57
pharmrep, I haven't been using you as a punching bag. If you go back over the last four years, I've talked about Pharm Companies and just about everything else you can think of. What I've said about Lexapro would have been said whether you were here or not. Generally, I direct my statements at the industry shortcomings but I know some of this comes across like the whole thing is your fault. I apologize for that.
That being said, Lexapro overall is the best AD I've been on. I'm hoping the sex SE will lessen but if it doesn't, I've learned to be creative.
If I had two wishes for pharm companies, one would be for them to realize how high the numbers of people having sexual difficulties really are instead of publishing studies that deny it. Denial won't solve the problem. If I was Soloman, I'd put up 25 mil for anyone in the company that could unlock that lock. You guys have to know that if Lexapro Plus was marketed w/ no sex SE, 25 mil would be a miniscule investment.
Secondly, why do pharm c's charge the US one price and many other countries pay another?Peace,
Phil
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