Posted by PeterMartin on January 19, 2019, at 22:16:10
In reply to Re: White Mulberry (Morus Alba) - Anyone know of it?, posted by porkpiehat on January 19, 2019, at 11:46:04
Sorry for a short reply but I only have a little time so a couple things that stood out:
Never taken tianeptine but it's always interested me - wish I could but I'd never order it from abroad/etc.
I don't mind being obsessive sometimes. I have a very unusual job/passion where I don't mind getting a little hypomanic fixated on projects so long as I'm productive. Given being forced to have a more normal 9-5 or be amongst society I might not be quiet as tolerant of the way the medication makes me.....but for my merry-go-round week I'm ok w/ what I do and what I produce....so that's kinda why I hedge on giving advice acting like works for me will work for you or anyone else. I'm quirky and a lot of times ok w/ that. It's just me and my GF. All good :)
Deplin was found recently to totally block the effects of lamictal (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26687300):
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"Jan 2016: NTERPRETATION:
Addition of lamotrigine to quetiapine treatment improved outcomes. Folic acid seems to nullify the effect of lamotrigine. CEQUEL should encourage clinicians and patients to consider lamotrigine for bipolar depression, but also to be aware that concurrent folic acid might reduce its effectiveness."
===Odd right? But I dunno. I took Deplin in 2009/2010 when it first came out. I would have been on Lamictal at the time also. I don't remember it helping much at all and I was off it quickly. For some reason I tend to have bad reactions to vitamins and supplements. When they say, Oh if you take vitamin D3 you'll cure depression and Nardil depletes B6, and Metformin B12.....and Magnesium is good for Depression....and fish oil. Any of that will just make me depressed w/in a few days.....I don't know what it is....I'd rather have just try eat more across the board than over think hitting up amazon and walmart for vitamins that just generally kill my mood.
And yea I'll take the cognitive hit since the weight is a number. If I can push that back down below where I was a year ago (which may not be all that hard - who knows w/ Met+Topamax - I'm praying) then I'd have options to let up on the topa. From what I've read 50mg should be enough to have some effect on weight w/o really doing too much on to memory/cognition. I'm just pushing it heavy cause I've pissed off about this creeping weight gain for months and month....seemingly w/o any options....now I finally think I might be able so...I'm ready roll w/ it for a bit.....maybe I'll adjust too....we'll see...
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