Posted by Escapee on September 18, 2016, at 11:01:00
In reply to Re: 2 Psycho / CNS stimulants you may not be aware of » Escapee, posted by SLS on September 18, 2016, at 4:40:00
> Wow! Thanks for the information.
You are very welcome!
> I was looking at pramiracetam about 15 years ago. What happened to it? Is there still interest in it? Have you ever tried it?
lol I wrote about it above, second post down, middle paragraph ;)
> Oxiracetam sounds interesting. I could use as many improvements in cognition and memory as possible. I often stop mid-sentence due to cognitive slowing, difficulties with memory retrieval, and word-finding difficulties.
Yes I would recommend you do try it. Or any of the 'racetams'. But oxi is my fave. All of the racetams act on Acetylcholine so are a good 1st choice.But I also recommend that you buy an acetylcholine precursor / choline source too. This will help avoid acetylcholine levels dropping low from the nootropic, as it will be used up much quicker than normal. Headaches are a classic sign that your nootropic is leaving you dry.
Forget choline bitartrate. It does not cross the BBB too well and it can cause a 'fishy' odour too. Not too pleasant lol.
I would recommend citicoline or alpha-GPC as your choline source. I have read more about citicoline than I have alpha-GPC and I prefer it too. Plus citicoline has been shown to raise dopamine levels. Always a good thing (unless you have schizoid tendencies).
2 other nootropics potent nootropics come to mind. Centrophenoxine & Noopept. I have tried both. Noopept's effect were difficult to pick out for me. However it is a popular choice for many.
But I do like centrophenoxine, which is kind of an acetylcholine precursor and has effects of its own. Quite similar to DMAE but more potent. Both of these latter examples kind of make up part of the acetylcholine molecule.
Which is why I also take ALCAR (acetyl-L-Carnitine) with it. ALCAR has its own unique effects and it can also donate it's 'acetyl' part to help make acetylcholine. Not the best scientific explanation, but hopefully it makes sense.
Let us know how you get on if you decide to try a racetam, or any nootropic for that matter.
Escapee
Amitriptyline 100mg
Bupropion(Wellbutrin/Zyban)300mg
Quetiapine(Seroquel)150mg
Clonazepam(Klonopin/Rivotril)3mg
Pregabalin(Lyrica)400mg
Phenelzine(Nardil)45mg
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