Posted by stan_the_man70 on August 12, 2015, at 1:29:03
In reply to Re: natural-substitute-for-the-benzodiazepines, posted by Christ_empowered on August 11, 2015, at 16:04:51
C_E,
don't have a problem with your OM approach...
but supplements cost a lost of money, and need to check for potency bioavailibity purity absorbability and so on...what about people who cannot afford supplements or not available
also sometimes the effects of supplements wears off over a period of time and may not be so effective, or may cause side effects...
could you recommend an OM diet - based on foods and drinks?
Like a salad, soup, smoothie, juice, sprouted, fermented, steamed, cereal and so on?something that is a whole food (along with all the nutrients), something easy to digest, easy to absorb and easily prepared...
in keeping with the OM approach...
thanks for reading...
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> I don't think its a PRN thing. Niacin and niacinamide, in high doses, boost trypothan levels, for instance. That affects serotonin (somehow...), which helps anxiety and depression for a lot of people. Niacinamide (probably niacin as well) also affects GABA in a benzo-ish sort of way, according to some animal models. Niacin(amide) also functions as an antioxidant at high doses.
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> I sometimes take an additional 1.5 gram time release tablet, for a grand total of 4.5 grams/day. That's rare, though; usually, if I feel anxious, I take a low dose of gabapentin, risperdal for agitation.
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> Anyway...I recommend it to everybody, and it takes a couple weeks to really, really start working, sort of like an AD, I guess. With instant release capsules, some people get immediate sedation from 500-1,000mgs doses. For me, the time release is ideal because its only 2x daily dosing and there's no stomach irritation or sedation immediately.
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> Hoffer's protocol called for a high potency B complex 2x daily. He used b-50, I use b-100. You also should take at least 3 grams vitamin C. Personally, I take 12 grams, divided into 2 doses of 6 time release tablets, one dose AM and one dose PM.
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> In more extensive Orthomolecular protocols, additional vitamins are used. Vitamin E, selenium, zinc, additional b-6, sometimes beta carotene and fish oil. It appeals to me because its often a do it yourself thing, with lots of flexibility. C+E have synergy, so I think it'd be a good idea to take it. With E, look for natural form w/ mixed tocopherols. Probably cheaper online than in a normal vitamin store. Hoffer used (I think...) 800 IU or so per day, taken with a high fat meal. I personally take 1,000 IU day, and that's worked nicely for me.
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> I'm rambling...anyway, old school Orthomolecular (for me, Hoffer, not so much Pauling) has helped me tremendously. Proper meds are important, but OM seems to improve my quality of life, for surprisingly not too much $$$$.
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