Posted by Lou Pilder on February 1, 2012, at 4:34:49
In reply to Lou's request-ghmblerzdheth, posted by Lou Pilder on February 1, 2012, at 4:24:35
> > > > Sorry Lou no I am here to support on this thread Christ Empowered. His parents as he has posted understand as he also does that he needs abilify in order to live a life in a normal way. Socialize and get into work. Phillipa
> > >
> > > Phillipa,
> > > You wrote,
> > > [...he needs abilify in order to live a life in a normal way...].
> > > There could be people that think that they need abilify to live {a normal way}, whatever that could be. But there could also be facts that could be unbeknownst to those people that if they were known to them, then they could have more information to make a more informed decision as to if they really need the drug or if the drug could kill them or give them a life-ruining condition or trhe drug could cause them to be compelled to kill someone else.
> > > I want to give people this inflrmation that are facts that come from the FDA as in the citations here by me. These facts could give rise to a clearer picture of what could happen to people that take these drugs. They then could see what is down the road as that there are littered on the side of the road corpses of those that died from the drug, people on the side of the road unable to walk straight with their arms flailling and their toungs darting out with tardive dyskinesia, people with amputations from diabetes, blind people from stevens johnson syndrome, dead children from these drugs, the corpses of young girls with ropes around their necks from them hanging themselves, women struggling to walk because someone shot her in the head that was taking these drugs and then see the great magnatude of prople crying out saying ,"what must I do to find a way out?", and then see the addicts in torment from withdrawing from these drugs in rags because they can not work, they can not live a normal life, they can not communicate with others because they can only think of the horror that they are in from the drug that they are addicted to.
> > > If they are told to not listen to the FDA, why would they listen to someone that came out from the dead?
> > > Many will come to the end of that road and find death. I want them to find life, and life more abundantly.
> > > Lou
> >
> > Friends,
> > If you are considering being a discussant in this thread, I am requesting that you read the following citation. If you could, then I think that your could have more information as to taking abilify or not.
> > You see, many of these drugs can cause a life-ruining condition such as {tardive dyskinesia}.
> > So there are those that say you need a drug to live a normal life. There are people that say that a lot of things, but that does not mean that they are all true. But facts are facts.
> > Now while you are reading my citations here, if you are, you could get n idea of what the chances are of your life being ruined from these drugs or the chances of the drug killing you or you killing yourself or others. You might see in this citation around 3 1/2 %. You might see in the others such as (1 1/2 %) or( 2 1/2 %).
> > But the math is more complicated than that which could be unbeknownst to you. You see, if it is 3% that you get tardive dyskinesia, and 2 % that you kill yourself, and 1 1/2 % that you die from the drug, ans so much % for other life-ruing conditions, could you see that the sum of the chances is the total chance that you will either be killed by the drug, or kill yourself, or get a life-ruining condition.
> > It is like rolling the dice. The odds of you getting snake-eyes may be small, but if you combimene the odds of getting snake-eyes, an 11, OR a 3 OR a 9, then the odds are much greater that you will get ONE of those.
> > Now that is only on ONE roll. But taking these drugs do you not roll the dice twice a day, or more for day after day? I can compute what is called {gambler's ruin} and see how long it could take before the drug you are taking kills you or gives you a life-ruining condition.
> > Here is a link to the chances of getting TD from Abilify
> > Lou
> > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/abilify/tardive+dyskinesia
>
> Friends,
> Now are you thinking about taking Abilify or ontimnuing to take it? Do you know the odds of you killing yourself while you are on this drug?
> Let's see. The government stats have a little more than 1% of the people taking abilify kill themselves. Now those are the ones that are reported to the FDA. But how many deaths are not reported at all to the FDA? Some say 10 to 1. Some say 100 to 1.
> The point here is that there is a risk of you killing yourself while taking this drug. Does your prescriber tell you that? Does he/she say that one of the "side" effects of abilify is completed suicide? And then does yoyr prescriber expolain to you that the odds of you killing yourself or that the drug will kill you or that you could get a life-ruining condition from this drug is the SUM of the probabilities of the individual events?
> Now I could compute your chances of your death from this drug or your chances of getting a life-ruining condition or the chances that you will kill someone else while on this drug. I use what is called {gambler's ruin} which you could look up and do it yourselves if you like.
> You could also use the link here to a post here thathas another link to a site that catalogs the deaths and murders and other crimes that people on Abilify have done. To use that site when it is up, click on the red drug and the drugs will come up in order and all the Abilify deaths are listed ther.
> Here is a link to a site that has the FDA stats on Abilify as to completed suicides. Then the link to the post here.
> Lou
> http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/abilify/suicide+completed
> Then the link to the post here with the link to the site.
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20110902/msgs/996161.html
>Friends,
The site called ehealthme may be updating since it is the first of the month and show "0".
Lou
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