Posted by Lou Pilder on July 17, 2010, at 20:51:01
In reply to Lou's reply » Lou Pilder, posted by Lou Pilder on July 17, 2010, at 20:15:32
> > > OK, I'm on Parnate which is the culprit in keeping me awake (plus a little help from the Mirapex)
> > >
> > > Last night (over 6 hours trying to fall asleep):
> > > approx. 30mg seroquel
> > > 8mg perphenazine
> > > 3mg lunesta
> > > 4-25mg benadryl
> > > 8mg ativan
> > > 50mg nortriptyline
> > > 12.5mg ambien CR
> > > I finally fell asleep and slept 3 hours
> > >
> > > Some notes...
> > >
> > > I won't normally be able to take the lunesta and ambien together because my insurance won't cover both at once and the pharmacy won't fill both at once.
> > >
> > > I don't think the seroquel is working at all. Drugs stop working when I go off them and then try to go back on them-- I did this with the seroquel I've tried the seroquel at high doses (300mg) and low doses (approx 30mg)
> > >
> > > Perphenazine makes me depressed, so I can't take more than 8mg. I don't want to take any at all
> > >
> > > I take the ativan 2mg at a time every hour
> > >
> > > I took the benadryl 4 hours apart
> > >
> > > THIS IS RIDICULOUS!
> > >
> > > Does anyone have ANY suggestions of what can be taken with Parnate and nortriptyline for sleep other than what I'm already taking? I would like to get off the seroquel and especially the perphenazine!
> > >
> > > inanimate peanut,
> > You wrote for suggestions.
> > In the list of drugs that you take above, I find it very hard to understand why a doctor precribed all of those to you, if that is the case.
> > You see, in my study of the chemical actions of these drugs, when taken together they could increase what they do. This means that if one drug causes central nervous system depression, then taking another drug with it could cause even more central nervous system depression. In the list of drugs at you give here, many of them taken together could be life -threatening due to CNS depression, heart problems, respiratory depression and the increase of the potential to cause movment disorders and tardive dyskinesia and other syndromes that could be life-ruining or cause death.
> > I am unsure as to what you posted as to if all of these drugs have been prescribed to you to take together or not. My suggestion is if all the drugs are prescribed to you to take together to forward this post to the doctor that did the prescribing and have a discussion to see why they were prescribed to take together.
> > Lou
> >
> inanimate peanut,
> I have given more inspection to the drugs that you are taking.
> One combination that alarms me here is that you are taking Parnate with nortriptyline. My study of the combination of these two drugs is that they are dangerous when taken together. And when combined with the other drugs in the list, I find it very hard to understand why a doctor prescribed these to take together, if one did.
> You asked for suggestions. I suggest that you call a poison control center in your phone area and ask them about the taking of these drugs in combination as to if they could cause death or life-ruining conditions and hear what they have to say. If they say that the drugs taken together will not cause seriouss consequences or death, I would like for you to post thier tel number for me to call them.
> Lou
>
inanimate peanut,
I am now greatly concerned about the combination that you say that you will take. In particular but not limited to the combination of Seroquel and perphenazine.
The two together could cause a psychotic episode, seizures , memory loss and more. There is also the potential for movment disorders to arise including tardive dyskinesia.
You asked for suggestions.
I posted a way to see a video here by Dr Kripke.
There is a lot of infomation about sleeping pills in that video.
My overiding concern now is that by taking the 5 drugs that you listed here tonight, that those 5 togeher could cause central nervous system depression and I find it now very difficult to understand why they have been prescribed to you to take all together, if that be the case.
You asked for suugestons. All I can do is post the facts here for you to make an informed decision on your own.
Lou
> >
> >
> >
>
>
poster:Lou Pilder
thread:954704
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20100709/msgs/954848.html