Posted by qbsbrown on August 11, 2009, at 21:51:55
In reply to Re: Tegretol VS Tegretol XR VS Trileptal, posted by qbsbrown on August 11, 2009, at 17:58:30
> > > > > I began taking tegretol the other week. It seemed to work really well for a couple of hours, then poop out. So logically thinking, I thought that the XR version would be much better.
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> > > > > Turns out to me, that the XR version turned out to act exactly like Trileptal did for me, some really strange and adverse effects (don't wanna go in to detail) that I didn't like.
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> > > > > But the tegretol xr is taken 2 times daily, as well as the trileptal.
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> > > > > So i guess my options are to take the tegretol 4 times a day, instead of 3, it works about 4 hours.
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> > > > > Or I could try the Tegretol XR 3 times daily.
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> > > > > Any recommendations/experiences?
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> > > > Hmm.... Trileptal didn't do much for me, as I was going through the list of most of the AEDs, but its generally recommended as safer with a lot fewer potentially dangerous side effects.
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> > > > So I can't say.. if the regular Tegretol didn't have these concerns for you (doctors usually prefer the more modern Trileptal I would imagine) then I would say just stick to the regular release.
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> > > > -- Jay
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> > > I was using it more or less to assist in benzo wd. I hope that I'm not on it very long to have the potentially bad side effects.
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> > > But you don't really see any clinical advantage to taking the regular or the XR?
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> > I don't know about clinical advantage, I can't say I'd advise tegretol over trileptal, but then it seems to work for you.
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> > But I'm confused...
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> > "Turns out to me, that the XR version turned out to act exactly like Trileptal did for me, some really strange and adverse effects (don't wanna go in to detail) that I didn't like."
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> > So why take the XR version of Tegretol if it had unpleasant effects... especially if they're unpleasant to the point of being strange and adverse ?
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> > Or am I missing something ?
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> Good question. I did only give the tegretol xr a 2-3 day trial, and it was causing some of the same probs as trileptal.
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> I would go w/ trileptal, but i've taken it many times, and my brian/body is actually rejecting it now, especially during benzo wd.
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> The trileptal would actually INDUCE rapid cycling in me, crazy stuff.
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> But the tegretol regular version, only lasts 4 hours, so i'd have to dose 5 times a day. That, or i could give the XR version a bigger trial, and take it 3 times a day instead of 2 times. I'm an extremely fast metabolizer.
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> Then again, i have strange and adverse effects from every psychotropic med, hence me wanting off all of them.
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> Regards,
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> BrianWell, it's kinda strange. I can tell how a med is going to act the whole time from the get go, and I typically feel it's whole effects from day 1. but yes, it is worth a try. Having to take the generic every 4 hours is a pain in the butt.
Well, this is my last taper of diazepam (5th attempt), and has been my most difficult. I hope that with carbamazipine on board, it think it will help, as many studies have shown.
Secondly. Dr. Heather Ashton mentions Doexepin being used for benzo wd for anxiety and sleep.
Ironically, after waking up at 3am last night after horrible brutal sleep (which is more common now), I took a benadryl. Although it did not allow me to sleep, but gave me relaxation that i haven't experienced during this whole taper in the past 5 months.
I took 2 more doses of benadryl during the day today, and it has been the most relaxing day thus far, hands down.
So i think there is something there to histamine for me. I don't do very well with anything serotonin based, as it usually induces a feeling of depression, or even sometimes even mania/hypomania.
I see that doexepin is a great histamine blocker. Do you think that that is something worth looking into and talking to my dr about?
Is it ok to mix a tca w/ tegretol?
Thanks,
Brian
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