Posted by bleauberry on January 5, 2008, at 17:55:44
In reply to Re: Mirapex and Ixel together?, posted by atmlady on January 3, 2008, at 19:43:49
I ordered Ixel a few months ago and am giving it my second go. The first time I got such bad urinary hesitancy, actually almost total stoppage, it was scary. This time, I'm starting at a much lower dose and see.
Ixel starts working for me on day 2. Which is highly unusual for me. Everything makes me feel worse. Not Ixel. For anyone willing to take their own mental care into their own responsibility then I think Ixel is a good option to compete with FDA meds. It is prescribed in over 40 countries for moderate to severe depression.
To keep the parts of lexapro that you like, you could consider getting it in the liquid form. That way you could easy customize your dose in drops to get as much benefit as possible without exceeding the threshold of bad sex.
Even with an overseas order and shipping, Ixel is way cheaper than a brand name FDA drug. A nice option to have for those of us with no insurance or lousy insurance or lousy experience with generics.
You mentioned dopamine. Even though milnacipran does not have direct effects on dopamine reuptake, a scientific study did show that it increases the responsiveness of dopamine D2 and D3 receptors.
Too bad wellbutrin deserted you like a bad date. Wellbutrin works great for some and really bad for others. But one common trend I have noticed is that it doesn't seem to last very long. A few months maybe. It is hard to find anyone who has been on it and loved it for years.
Compared to lexapro I find Ixel side effects very mild. The first time was only 4 days but did not have any sign of sexual side effects. Lexapro hits me with bad side effects on the first day. Mileage varies. No way to predict. Hopefully we will both find out way.
> Hey, Blueberry - I've only just ordered the Ixel after reading great things about it. Namely, that it's been used for several years outside the US for depression with great results and 1. no sexual side effects, 2. no weight gain and 3. longer and better quality sleep. It's about to be approved in the US for Fibromyalgia. (I know YOU know this, but am just mentioning for others).
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> I've been on Wellbutrin for a year, but I really should be on Lexapro. Lex literally puts a song in my heart and for the first time in, like ever, I felt what happiness was. But I could not stand the weight gain and the anorgasmia. So my doc switched me to Wellbutrin December 06 and it was OK - I'm not happy but I'm not crying my eyes out and thinking morbid thoughts. Then last month I crashed, like it wasn't working anymore. So she upped my dose to 450mg - the max. It kinda sorta perked me up, but not much. So I added on my own some leftover Lexapro at night and la la la I'm happy with a song in my heart, just as I suspected. I'm also eating everything in sight and cannot orgasm anymore. I swear, this Lexapro affects me (good and bad) almost immediately!
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> So anyhow, obviously I really need seratonin, and I've been shopping for a way to get it without the crappy side effects of the current SSRI's. And I read about Ixel and it sounded like the answer to my prayers. But it also works on Norepinephrin (sp?) like Wellbutrin does, so I'm thinking I need to discontinue the WB when I get the Ixel. Then I thought, what will happen with dopamine when I cut out the WB? Ixel does not work on dopamine. So that's where I'm thinking the Mirapex would come in, but only if I needed it. Maybe I won't need it since I'm reading that Wellbutrin is actually a relatively weak inhibitor.
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> OK, I know I should be talking to my doc about this, but I'm uninsured and it costs me $100 each time I talk to her, and so far she's been pretty conservative with my treatment. Next time I talk to her I want to be able to know what I'm talking about and ask for what I want instead of depending on her to pull some drug name out of her butt for me to try.
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> I gotta say too, that another benefit of the Ixel will be cost - a month's worth of WB 450 mg costs me $384!! And then the Ambien that I need to fall asleep thanks to the WB costs another $150. All that money and not even feeling good -man.
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> If you're still there, thanks for listening to my rant! I will definitely post my thoughts on Ixel once I begin it!
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