Posted by Maxime on February 5, 2005, at 20:08:47
In reply to Re: Please tell me about the Parnate problem » Maxime, posted by cubbybear on February 5, 2005, at 9:41:28
Hi,
In 2002 when I was FINALLY prescribed Parnate, I cried. I cried because I had been trying to get a PDOC to prescribe it for over a year. No one would listen to me. Finally one pdoc did.
I noticed the change this past summer. However, I was under a lot of stress from work. I don't suffer from anxiety. Even under stressful situations, anxiety has never been a problem so I can't really address that portion of your question.
First exhaustion returned and so I augmented the Parnate with Adderall and that worked for about 6-8 weeks. Then I was crying all the time. I would cry at nothing in particular. But I would cry on the bus, in stores ... it didn't matter. My suicidal thoughts returned.
The above are symptoms of depression. I continued to blame it on the stress of my job. Then I lost my job. Then I spent Nov. and Dec. umemployed and in a deep depression. My pdoc was positive that if I could start working again that all would be well. I did find a job but my mood didn't change. I just felt worse. I take 80-100 mg of Parnate BTW.
Finally I asked him if I could try Nardil.
However, here are some nagging thoughts I have:
- is the Adderall actually making me more depressed. And if so, then why the exhaustion. Extreme exhaustion. Why did that start to occur?
- I have thyroid problem. I am hypothyroid. I take synthroid and my levels are fine .... but I am worried that I still have a thyroid problem. The doctor says since my levels are okay then my thyroid is fine (with the help of synthroid). But I don't think he is doing all the tests he should. I don't know if my body is converting the Syntroid properly in my body. I still have many of the symptoms of hypothyroidism. So maybe the depression is really a thyroid problem.So I guess my point is that it could be my thyroid that is causing these problems. There are tests that my endocrinologist could run to see if my body is using the Synthroid properly. But like many doctors these days he is lazy. I live in Canada and I need a referral if I want to see another endocrinologist. But I can't get one and the wait list is so long.
I'm going back on the Parnate. I can't take the Nardil and I don't believe that Parnate would poop out on me like this.
What if any, side effect from the Parnate do you get?
Maxime
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> I have often heard people say that if one MAOI works then that is the one for you. I think Parnate is the one for me ... I just have to figure out how to improve it.
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> Maxime,
> I'd very much like to turn this thread around to hear more about your Parnate poopout. As it is, relatively few people take MAOIs, and very few report poopout problems, especially Parnate. As you may know, I've been a believer in this wonder drug for 20 years now. It has knocked out my depression and anxiety every time and the side effects were always tolerable for me.
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> If you've seen my posts over the past month, I've been grappling with come and go anxiety for the first time in ages. I don't have depression symptoms, but the old clawing anxiety has come back to upset my (unrealistic?) belief that I could remain stabilized and 100% happy on Parnate forever. My biggest terror is poopout, and I remain scared to death of the drug losing any potency. Two or three pdocs believe that the drug is not pooping out on me despite the intermittent anxiety spells. I increased my mtnce. dose from 30 mg. to 40 mg. about 3 wks. ago. I felt great for 5 days last week, but then started feeling anxious again today. This may or may not be arising from some apprehensions and fears about my mother's health.
> Well, it's taken me a long time to get to the question, but you're in the uncommon position to be able to tell me: did you find that Parnate effectively killed off anxiety for you(or does that issue not apply?) More importantly, how did you know that the Parnate was pooping out on you? How long were you on it and at what dose? What were your symptoms when the poopout was occuring? I've been taking low-dose Klonopin, particularly for sleep, during the last few weeks, but would rather not have to.
> Could it be that no anti-depressant, even a great MAOI like Parnate, is not perfect and breakout anxiety can occur from time to time? Is that all it is? Just what's your (and anyone else's!) opinion on Parnate poopout after a period of 20 years?
> Thanks for all your help (and any others' too).
poster:Maxime
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