Posted by petters on January 16, 2002, at 1:13:16
In reply to Re: Serotonin manipulation useful for ADHD? » petters, posted by Mitch on January 14, 2002, at 13:13:39
> > > > > > Raga, SSRIs are very effective at treating one aspect of ADHD & that's the impulsivness of a ADHD person. It serves to temper the impulsivness so one's less likely to blurt out the first thing that comes into their head (makes us think a little, most times, before we open out mouths just to change feet). It helps stop us from leaping before looking, so to speak. It's not that it's completely eliminated but gives us better control over it, at least.
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> > > > > > This is how I've heard it explained by the psychologist who tested me & it does seem to be true for me.
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> > > > > I've got bipolar and ADHD. Not *all* SSri meds help my ADHD. Only *two* seem to and they are Prozac anc Celexa. Zoloft, Luvox, and Paxil seemed to *fog* my head up worse. Yes, they all do help with impulsiveness. I can understand why Prozac probably helps my attentiveness (the NE reuptake inhibition), but I am bewildered as to why Celexa seems to help with one pecululiar but troubling attentional symptom I have: Being able to pick out ordinary and lyrical speech from people talking/music. If I am on the phone and someone has an accent I can hardly understand a thing otherwise. I especially notice it when I am listening to music and try to pick out the words to songs.
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> > > > > Mitch
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> > > > Hi...
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> > > > Efexor can be very usefull for ADHD. Better than a pure ssri. There are som studies done in these areas, and the result was very positive. It´s effectives in both impulsiveness and attentiveness.
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> > > > Best wishes...//Petters
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> > > Thanks Petters, for that suggestion. Yes, I have tried Effexor and it *did* help (attention). But, it also triggered very intense hypomanias that were too destabilizing (even with very tiny doses-12.5mg, i.e.). Adderall didn't trigger any hypomania-it just made me too anxious. The tiny bit of Celexa I take is destabilizing as well, but the hypomanias are mild and more controllable. I REALLY wish I could get the attentional problems solved (like Adderall did) without getting anxious. I see my pdoc next week and I am going to bring up Provigil. Maybe I can guinea pig on that stuff and see what happens....
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> > > Mitch
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> > Hi Mitch...
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> > The hypomania you had on low dosages efexor, is probably because the dosage are to low. I know this sounds strange, but efexor in high dosage is is very stabilizing for the mood. It takes the the hypomania and depression as well makes you more attentiveness. Often you need 300 - 450 mg in this respect. Many mood swings that seems to be rapid cycling are in fact affective labiility and do respons on efexor.
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> > Sorry for my spelling, but I am not from U.S
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> > Best Wishes...//Petters
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> Hi Petters, Yes that could be entirely possible for some with uncomplicated *unipolar* depression. The trouble is that I am *bipolar* and ALL antidepressants I have taken are destabilizing to some extent. Taking *more* historically has never helped with that. I actually had increased my Effexor for a short time up to 75mg/day and I became quite manic. Thanks for the advice, but increasing antidepressant use is *not* something I am going to be attempting any time soon.
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> Mitch
Hi Mitch...I hope you don´t mind I´m asking, but are you bipolar 1 or 2 ?
Why don´t you add another mood stabilizar, such as Lamictal or Topamax, and than raise the efexor, and threat the ADHD well enough. By the way. Many pdoc means that ADHD and bipolar have an relationships, and often the ADHD sympoms getts mutch better when the bipolar disorders are proper threated.
Sometimes one need 3-4 moodstabilizer to treat the bipolar disorders.
Best Wishes...//Petters
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