Posted by MB on July 20, 2001, at 18:31:31
In reply to Re: Ultram withdrawal! » MB, posted by Elizabeth on July 20, 2001, at 17:08:07
> > > How much were you taking?
> >
> > Oh gosh, I don't know.
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> I'm not sure how many there are in the various size boxes and how much there is in each pill. If I remember, maybe next time I'm at a drug store I'll check.
You know what's really funny? I had a dream last night about this whole converastion...in the dream I was counting the tablets in the blister pack, and the blister pack kept getting bigger and bigger...I finally counted like 40 tabs and was thinking, "holy sh*t, I can't believe I took that many!"
> > > 70 mg? God. You could cause liver damage from taking all that Tylenol that they put in the pills with it.
> >
> > Yeah, I think each tab had 650...maybe 675 mg of acetaminophen in it.
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> There're actually hydrocodone-APAP preparations that have 10 mg of hydrocodone and only like 325 of APAP.
Wow, I should have gotton those. I wish they just made hydrocodone without the acetaminophen...I guess they put the acetaminophen in there just to poison people: "We'd rather people die of LIVER FAILURE than get high!!! Let's denature the ethanol while we're at it; getting high is THE DEVIL (unless it's taxed, of course)."
> > I think I *am* pretty lucky regarding the amount of tylenol I used to consume. I used to take a lot of N-acetylcysteine with the Lorcet.
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> Another strategy I've heard of. It always surprises me when it turns out that one of those "food supplements" actually does something useful.
I know. I read about acetaminophen overdoses being treated by IV N-acetylcysteine, and I was like, "huh, I think I have some of that stuff in the cupboard!" (using the word "like" in conversation, by the way, is one sure way to demonstrate one's erudition).
> > I went through a bottle of 30 vicodin in a 24 hour period once...without the N-acetylcysteine.
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> 300 mg? I guess if you're taking 70 at a time, that's not so far-fetched. I don't even want to think about how much APAP there was in that, though. I'm glad you're okay.
Me too. I was pretty nauseated the next day. I was really going for broke, I don't know why. Opiates cure my depression, but sadly, I *am* compulsive when I use them. I wonder if I would be with buprenorphine. Probably.
> > Well, I didn't mind being dependent...as long as I had a steady enough supply to keep me doing well. I didn't want to be a criminal, though, which was what I became using the heroin. No telling what that cr*p (tar) was cut with.
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> Are you on the west coast, by any chance?
Yeah. I lived on the West Coast at the time. Any of the major cities along that coast (San Diego, L.A., San Francisco, Eugene, Portland, Seattle...) are innundated with the stuff (tar).
> > Yeah, I didn't have to steal, but the people I came in contact with were pretty scary.
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> That's one of the many reasons why I say that nobody wants to be an addict. Even if you're well-off enough that you can afford whatever you need, you still have to make regular trips to "the bad part of town" (unless you have a friend who's willing to do that part).
Right. And those people can see the well-off addict a mile away...and they're dying to rip you off...
> > It's not like the pot scene...we're not talking about a few dead-heads with dreads.
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> Pot? I associate that more with, you know, high school kids. (and springtime, for some reason)
Oh yeah, well, when you're a deadhead, it's always springtime, dear < g >.
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