Posted by stjames on August 24, 2000, at 2:14:43
In reply to Doxepin the worst for cravings, really?, posted by bee on August 23, 2000, at 19:10:04
I hope not! I'm pretty well down to a few last medicines to try and am
getting disheartened.
I realize that everyone reacts different to medications so it may work.
Any other thoughts or medications that give you good sleep, no anxiety or
nervousness, and no cravings?
Keep in mind that I live in Canada so some medications may not be here.
Help, please!
James here....Most people find doxipin the most sedating. It is also the worst for
cravings like sugar and chocolate. I started taking AD's in 1985, b4 there
was Prozac, so I have been on several TCA's. Doxipin for me was the
strongest AD of the TCA's and also most sedating and most anticolonergic.
Cravings were nothing on Elivil compared to doxipin.This is fun Bee, you are just like me ! Only the nor-e effecting meds work
on me too; you and I have the same reactions to meds. I've been on all the meds except the MAOI's and AP's. Prozac was the only one I could
tolarete, and I stuck it out for 3 months, the last one at 40mgs. Nothing. Like a cup of espresso with milk. I'm on Effexor and
Remeron, now, either would be a good possibility for you. Since Effexor is prescribed in
your country it seems your choices are few. For me Effexor does not cause
cravings. There may be ways for you to get Remeron thru some manufacture programs.Sleep, well Effexor is not so good about that, your best bet w/o Remeron
would be to take a small dose of whatever TCA, at night, hopefully enough
for sleep will not cause the cravings.Ok. Here is some advice from an old time hand when it comes
to depression. Mine started in 1980-01 and I was medicated in 1985.
1985 is very special to me. I call it my "Summer of Love"
as this is when the sleeper awakened from his sleep of several years.
I found I have made some poor choices while depressed. I was a few credits
from a music degree and all I wanted to do is get away from music for a
while. Being creative while depressed is a chore but is a joy if I am not. I had
more or less ended a long term relationship with Mr. Wonderful when I told him
I could not be present for now but please don't go. Actually I had not been present
for 2 years so John did not see this as a good sign, and left. A simple act could of
stopped this but by 83-84 I was incapable of being there for someone I am still in love
with.You are wondering about the advice, eh ? Do remember I have ADD ! Depression is
a significant, chronic process. Depression is like cancer, find it, medicate and treat it
aggressively for a while and back off and see what happens. If undertreated it will come
back and get worse. My depression has been well controlled since 1985
but I do have breakthru depression every 5 yrs or so. When they happen
they are far worse that the worst pre med. I don't wash, do change clothes don't
leave the house. The first time it happened I ran thru clothes at about the 3 month mark.
Even I would not wear my clothes at that point ! I managed to do a load of clothes.
I decided it was better to throw away the rest. I did save the good clothes, but after 7 years
in retail management I had a mazillion tee shirts of all sizes and type and a 90 day supply of
daily Calvin's plus boxers whice went in the bin. I had been using my clean clothes as towels for some time
for my weekly bath, at that point the cats avoided me if it got too bad, like at a week, so they helped as best they could.Remember that the 2 common side effects in AD's , generally, are weight and issues of sex function/drive. No AD is free of these effects in a majority of the population. Some can find med(s) that only have one of these effects and a lucky few find something that has none of these.
There are augmentation strategies for the sex function/drive issue. The weight issue is coming along with why many people gain weight, in general. Depression is a big deal, so I am glad there are meds to treat it and I will deal with the (side) effects. I'm happy. I've been real happy since I left the retail rat race (1995) . New Mexico heals.
Peace and love from the high desert of northern New Mexico,Saint James
mailto:[email protected]
http://www.la-tierra.com/stjames"J'ai seul la clef de cette parade sauvage."
Les Illuminations, Arthur Rimbaud (1854-1891)
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